Clinton: McCain's opposition to farm bill a slap at rural America

Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to talk as if she's headed for a fall campaign against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain - even as her prospects for winning the Democratic nomination dim.

[NO WAY]

What is the Farm Bill?

[mhl]

How about the full story? We can't decide if Hilary or McCain is right or wrong without it. What are the details of the Farm Bill and what piggybacks are on it?

[reason]

NO WAY wrote:

What is the Farm Bill?

There is no 'farm' bill ... it is a 'food, conservation and energy' bill.

[NO MO]

Diane Feinstein is trying to add a ammesty bill on with this. Giving millions of illegal criminals ammesty into the country ahead of legally immigrating imigrants. More democrat underhanding of the american public. Close the borders and vote all these horrific congress people out, Feinstein is a communist.

[Batch 37 Pain is Good]

This bill is going to raise the cost of food. Again, liberals are going to hurt the American people. Stock up on Petroleum Jelly because the Marxists/big govt. are going to nail the people.

[Gentle Taz]

Congress, as usual, added extras to it that had nothing to do with farming.

[Neko]

reason wrote:

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There is no 'farm' bill ... it is a 'food, conservation and energy' bill.

Most of it is a welfare program for millionares.

No new farmers....just folks who got theirs when grandpa or daddy died.

Most of the small farms are gone....eaten up by the giant corporations at tax sales during the Reagan, Bush41, and Clinton years.

Not hard to buy expensive new tractors amd land to keep the income under the handout limits!

Even better if you can find "undocumented" people to work for cheap and no benefits!

I wonder when the INS is finally going to have a major raid in Oceana County?(I know white people...turned down for asparagus picking jobs in favor of illegals...and processors who hire people with a new name every summer!)

Time to stop the farmers getting government handouts from keeping wages down by hiring unlawful workers.

The current "fine" (handslap) isn't enough! And the folks running the E.E.O.C. and the Department of Civil rights just get laughed at them if they try to file a lawful complaint!!!

It's now a government....by the corporations....for the corporations....

God save us from the Reagan "Worshipers"!(and all other "zealots" who worship power and wealth)

[durr]

it doesnt seem like the govt. gives a cr_ap anymore about anyone in the US. Lets boycott them and take control of the govt. lets rally, protest and riot to get these greedy SOB's the message that loyal American's aren't going to take it anymore.. its all turning into like the revolutionary war with the tea tax and taxes for everything else, corporate america is all anyone understands anymore the people are suffering and we dont have to

[Ms Angie]

Here you go, here are the highlights from the Farm Bill. Bush says he'll veto it, however both the House and Senate say they have enough support to override the veto:
May 15 (Reuters)- The five-year,$289 billion U.S. farm bill
would expand public nutrition, land stewardship and biofuels
programs by a combined $15.6 billion over 10 years.
Here are highlights of the bill.
NUTRITION
* Increases public nutrition programs by $10.3 billion over 10
years, including $7.9 billion for food stamps,$1.25 billion for
donations to food banks through The Emergency Food Assistance
Program and $1.05 billion for a fresh fruit and vegetable
school-snack program.
* Ten million people to see larger food stamp benefits. Farm
bill increases the standard income deduction for households of
less than four people to $144, increases the minimum monthly
benefit to $14, and indexes them for inflation. The assets limit
to qualify for food stamps also is adjusted. Larger deductions
allowed for child care costs.
* Food stamp program is renamed Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program.
FARM SUPPORTS
* Denies all supports to people with more than $500,000
adjusted gross income and denies "direct" payments to people with
more than $750,000 in farm income. People with more than $1
million AGI not eligible for land stewardship payments unless
two-thirds of income is from farming; waivers allowed.
Farm payments will be tracked to individuals and
"three-entity" rule allowing people to collect subsidies
indirectly is eliminated.
* Creates the optional, Average Crop Revenue Election program,
the first federal program to shelter growers from poor yields as
well as low prices. Participants accept lower crop subsidy rates
to qualify for payments linked to nationwide revenue for a crop.
* Sets minor increases in subsidy rates for wheat, soybeans
and some smaller-acreage crops.
* Creates standby $3.8 billion disaster relief fund for
farmers and ranchers.

[Ms Angie]

It's broke down in 2 parts, here's the second part:

LAND STEWARDSHIP
* Increases funding for land stewardship by $4 billion over 10
years.
* Provides additional $2.4 billion for Environmental Quality
Incentives Program, which shares the cost of controlling runoff
from fields and feedlots.
* Sets target of enrolling 80 million acres by 2013 in the
Conservation Stewardship Program, a green payment scheme that pays
farmers who practice land, water and wildlife conservation on
working lands. CSP gains $1.1 billion in funding.
* Reduces the Conservation Reserve to a maximum of 32 million
acres; ceiling now is 39.2 million acres. The reserve pays
landowners to idle fragile farmland for 10 years.
* Provides $1.3 billion for Wetlands Reserve, enough to enroll
1.22 million acres over five years.
* Allows enrollment of 1.22 million acres of fragile land in
the Grassland Reserve.

[reason]

Neko wrote:

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Most of it is a welfare program for millionares.
No new farmers....just folks who got theirs when grandpa or daddy died.
Most of the small farms are gone....eaten up by the giant corporations at tax sales during the Reagan, Bush41, and Clinton years.
Not hard to buy expensive new tractors amd land to keep the income under the handout limits!
Even better if you can find "undocumented" people to work for cheap and no benefits!
I wonder when the INS is finally going to have a major raid in Oceana County?(I know white people...turned down for asparagus picking jobs in favor of illegals...and processors who hire people with a new name every summer!)
Time to stop the farmers getting government handouts from keeping wages down by hiring unlawful workers.
The current "fine" (handslap) isn't enough! And the folks running the E.E.O.C. and the Department of Civil rights just get laughed at them if they try to file a lawful complaint!!!
It's now a government....by the corporations....for the corporations....
God save us from the Reagan "Worshipers"!(and all other "zealots" who worship power and wealth)

2/3 is WIC, School Lunch, and Food Stamps (that would be 'most'. only 17% is farm subsidy.
This is the first time growers of fruits and vegetables have been included in the bill. They are the farmers utilizing illegal labor. You will not find illegals working on a mid-western grain farm.

[mhl]

Thank you for the info. Now we can see why Mccain and Bush are against it. Shows once again that Hilary is not for the working class people.