Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256266 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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ana

London, UK

#170669 Apr 5, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>Islam post dated the Jewish scriptures
Yes but we also believe in prophets prior to prophet Mohammed peace be upon him, for example Moses peace be upon him is mentioned many many times in quran , so is Ibrahim and Adam

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#170670 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
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Out of context, you can't pick and mix sections of the Quran you need to understand it and what it is referring to, for example 8:12
This verse and the verses before and after were revealed about the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad peace be on him and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the city of Makkah. And now that they had fled Makkah and found a sanctuary in the city of Madinah, they were once again threatened. The Muslim Army was only about 300 strong. God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to fight to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims. It was a war to defend themselves and their Faith. It was a war imposed upon Muslims.
This Surah / section of the Quran is speaking about this as above
All that you have quoted are taken out of context of the exact meaning, you can't just take extracts like that you need to understand what it relates to as a whole ... What is written before and after
Really I wouldn't practise a religion which encouraged violence....
Stop being ignorant
I said to you stop being stupid.

Quran 8:12
Quran 8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

My point was not to underline the situation, otherwise I would have picked up the verses before and later, but was to show the cruelty of your god, Allah that told to strike their heads and fingertips off. That was unnecessary.

As for the situation we only rely on Islamic version of history. Who told us that they are saying the truth?

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#170671 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
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In the case of Surah 8:55 all you had to do was the read the next verse!!!!!!Let us quote 8:55 in its context:
For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him. They will not believe.
They are those with whom thou didst make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear (of Allah).(8:55-56)
That is Surah 8:55 in its CONTEXT, all the critic had to do was literally read the next passage!!!!!!!According to the context, the worst of beasts that are being mentioned in verse 55 is referring to people who keep breaking their covenants with the Muslims!!!!!!Hence it is not an unrestricted label; rather the label is restricted on the people who are breaking their covenants with the Muslims! Basically the people who make an agreement with the Muslims, yet they constantly renegade, and turn back on those agreements.
It's quite evident you are not a scholar of Quran...

Quran 8:55-56
55Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe.

56The ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time, and they do not fear Allah .

But are you blind or what? Don't you see that it said "the worst living creatures in the SIGHT of Allah"? So Allah creatures of who knows how many living being found the worst living creatures in this planet, that coincidentally are the enemies of Muslims?

It doesn't require a rocket scientists to understand Muhammad is using Allah to put Muslims against people, that according to his version of story, are breaking the covenant with him.

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#170672 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
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And 3:56 is speaking about going to hell if you do not believe in god... And reject god
It isn't asking Muslims to incite violence... Bit confused there
Honestly it's easy to pick out sections and take them out of context
You know for an example if you studied English Literature, when you quote from a source you cannot ignore what comes before and what comes after what you have quoted, because the quotation can be taken out of context in regards to it's actual meaning
Many have failed English literature papers or dissertations by simply taking quotations out of context ... Same applies here
Have you read the first line of that post? I have reproduced it here.

"Does one really need to provide verses in Quran, where violence is found a bit everywhere, to a Muslim?"

Quran 3:56 As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.

Here instead, Allah is menacing the non-believers and those who wants to change their religion that if they do that they will suffer terribly in the Hereafter.

Here Allah, or I should say Muhammad is trying to scare people by using psychological violence.

Any reason to left out Quran 8:39? LOL
John

Brisbane, Australia

#170673 Apr 5, 2013
Hey muztards, I'm curious.
What makes you creeps think you can come to western countries crawling around in the midst of Christians and rioting, whining, living as parasites off another race and yet not be hated???
We aren't interested in your Satanic religion.

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#170674 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
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but I'm pretty sure that some historical Jewish scripts acknowledge the Kaaba, I am unable to find any documents or reference to dr Amari debating with Muslim scholars
I have heard of him before... But not much in open debate and theological discussion
How can you be sure pretty sure of something you don't know at all.

In the Jewish scriptures there is no mention of any Zamzam, Mecca or even Kaaba.

Wonder why...

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#170675 Apr 5, 2013
CORRECTION # 170671

It's quite evident you are not a scholar of Quran...

Quran 8:55-56
55Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe.

56The ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time, and they do not fear Allah .

But are you blind or what? Don't you see that it said "the worst living creatures in the SIGHT of Allah"? Allah created who knows how many living beings and found the worst living creatures in this planet, that coincidentally are the enemies of Muslims?

It doesn't require a rocket scientist to understand Muhammad is using Allah to put Muslims against people, that according to his version of story, are breaking the covenant with him.

That guy knew how to fool ignorant arabs.

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#170676 Apr 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one Devil in the world and that Devil is the Church, Trinitarian Christian!
You talk like a Muslim and act like a Muslim, so you must be a Muslim, right?
There is your answer.
Muslims are historically known liars.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (16:106)- Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28)- This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”
Qur'an (9:3)-“…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (2:225)-“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”
Qur'an (66:2)-“Allah has already ordained for you,(O men), the dissolution of your oaths”
Qur'an (3:54)-“And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.(See also
8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Muslims are the liars.
They hide the truth about their god Allah.
They murder for the sake of the devil.
bmz

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#170677 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
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Where is Shamma from do u know??
Don't swear at shama not cool bro
Sis, I think he is from the Buckle of the Bible Belt in America.

The time when he pops up and the time that he goes to sleep, indicates the he lives on the West Coast.

I try not to remain in Jesus Mode but cannot control sometimes.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#170678 Apr 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You talk like a Muslim and act like a Muslim, so you must be a Muslim, right?
Ya, right. What took you so long to conclude that? 
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#170679 Apr 5, 2013
Correction, Ana

Should read:

I try to remain in Jesus Mode but cannot control sometimes.

Since: Apr 11

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#170680 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
No the battle of badr was a battle the pagans commited to against the Muslims
In that time the Muslims never attacked anyone, they just defended themselves
Go and find me evidence where the Muslims and prophet Mohamed peace upon him started a war... You can't because it doesn't exist
You talk like a Muslim and act like a Muslim, so you must be a Muslim, right?

There is your answer.
Muslims are historically known liars.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106)- Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28)- This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Qur'an (9:3)-“…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (2:225)-“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”

Qur'an (66:2)-“Allah has already ordained for you,(O men), the dissolution of your oaths”

Qur'an (3:54)-“And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.(See also

8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

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#170681 Apr 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Muhammad worshipped the God of Abraham and the Jews, which means the God of the Jewish Torah. He never worshipped the absurd Trinity or the Triune God of the Christian Bible.
The God of your Bible is neither the God Jews nor the God of Muslims. You can now see what a sour pickle your triune God is in. An absurd God that makes no sense. Your triune God is Bullshit!
You talk like a Muslim and act like a Muslim, so you must be a Muslim, right?

There is your answer.
Muslims are historically known liars.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106)- Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28)- This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Qur'an (9:3)-“…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (2:225)-“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”

Qur'an (66:2)-“Allah has already ordained for you,(O men), the dissolution of your oaths”

Qur'an (3:54)-“And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.(See also

8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

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#170682 Apr 5, 2013
For over 1400 years Muslims have been Murdering Christians over these false scriptures in the Quran.

"After the negative experiences which depressed Mohammed, Khadijah sent him to her cousin, Waraqa, to convince him that Mohammed was called to be a prophet of Allah.

Waraqa succeeded in his task and became responsible for most of the Qur’anic verses at the beginning.

Waraqa inserted Ebionite doctrines about Jesus in the Qur’an, stating that Jesus was a prophet, and that He was not crucified, but God made someone to resemble Jesus.
That one was crucified because the crowd thought he was Jesus.
This doctrine was first initiated by Simon, the magician from Samaria, who later founded a heresy which took his name, Simonianism.

In reality, Simon created the root for such doctrine, before it was developed by the Gnostics in later times. Here, I present Simon the magician’s idea about Jesus, which Hyppolytus reported in “The Refutation of all heresies”:

Jesus Christ being transformed, and being assimilated to the rulers and powers and angels, came for the restoration (of things). And so (it was that Jesus) appeared as man, when in reality he was not a man. And (so it was) that likewise he suffered, though not actually undergoing suffering, but appearing to the Jews to do so.[xxx][30]

The idea that the people crucified someone whom God made to resemble Jesus was embraced by some heresy-believing groups which were known to have immoral values, such as free sex and connections with occultism. Waraqa belonged to one of these cults.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad ...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#170683 Apr 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muslims are historically known liars.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (16:106)- Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.
Have you learned the art of lying from the renowned Christian liars Craig Winn, Silas, Robert Spencer, Pat Robertson and Sam Shamoun and the Church?

I quote from the translation of Qur'aan by George Sale, a Christian polemicist:

"Whoever denieth God, after he hath believed, except him who shall be compelled against his will, and whose heart continueth stedfast in the faith, shall be severely chastised: But whoever shall voluntarily profess infidelity, on those shall the indignation of God fall, and they shall suffer a grievous punishment. "

It is an exception, ignorant fool!

Read the exception: "except him who shall be compelled against his will, and whose heart continueth stedfast in the faith,"

Imagine this scenario:

If some of your barbaric Christians surround a weak Muslim, hounding him, threatening to behead him and ask him, "Are you a Muslim?" and that man is scared of his life under duress but has full faith and belief in God, and says, "I am not", then God will not take him to task, for God knows that he has full faith and belief in God and he did that to save himself.

So, he was compelled by the group of pagan Christians. No worries there.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#170684 Apr 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Qur'an (3:28)- This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”
The correct translation is:

" LET NOT the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers - since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything - unless it be to protect yourselves against them in this way. But God warns you to beware of Him: for with God is all journeys' end."

This is very true. Example:

If I come across you, I will have to be careful and be wary of you because you can never be true to me.

Simply put, your type of Christian friends cannot be trusted and you can never be my sincere friend.

Since: Apr 11

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#170685 Apr 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you learned the art of lying from the renowned Christian liars Craig Winn, Silas, Robert Spencer, Pat Robertson and Sam Shamoun and the Church?
I quote from the translation of Qur'aan by George Sale, a Christian polemicist:
"Whoever denieth God, after he hath believed, except him who shall be compelled against his will, and whose heart continueth stedfast in the faith, shall be severely chastised: But whoever shall voluntarily profess infidelity, on those shall the indignation of God fall, and they shall suffer a grievous punishment. "
It is an exception, ignorant fool!
Read the exception: "except him who shall be compelled against his will, and whose heart continueth stedfast in the faith,"
Imagine this scenario:
If some of your barbaric Christians surround a weak Muslim, hounding him, threatening to behead him and ask him, "Are you a Muslim?" and that man is scared of his life under duress but has full faith and belief in God, and says, "I am not", then God will not take him to task, for God knows that he has full faith and belief in God and he did that to save himself.
So, he was compelled by the group of pagan Christians. No worries there.
There is no exception here on this thread, yet you lie.
The Quran is not come from God, yet you insist it is, and trash Jesus Christ over false teachings in the Quran about Jesus.
For over 1400 years Muslims have been Murdering Christians over these false scriptures in the Quran.

"After the negative experiences which depressed Mohammed, Khadijah sent him to her cousin, Waraqa, to convince him that Mohammed was called to be a prophet of Allah.

Waraqa succeeded in his task and became responsible for most of the Qur’anic verses at the beginning.

Waraqa inserted Ebionite doctrines about Jesus in the Qur’an, stating that Jesus was a prophet, and that He was not crucified, but God made someone to resemble Jesus.
That one was crucified because the crowd thought he was Jesus.
This doctrine was first initiated by Simon, the magician from Samaria, who later founded a heresy which took his name, Simonianism.

In reality, Simon created the root for such doctrine, before it was developed by the Gnostics in later times. Here, I present Simon the magician’s idea about Jesus, which Hyppolytus reported in “The Refutation of all heresies”:

Jesus Christ being transformed, and being assimilated to the rulers and powers and angels, came for the restoration (of things). And so (it was that Jesus) appeared as man, when in reality he was not a man. And (so it was) that likewise he suffered, though not actually undergoing suffering, but appearing to the Jews to do so.[xxx][30]

The idea that the people crucified someone whom God made to resemble Jesus was embraced by some heresy-believing groups which were known to have immoral values, such as free sex and connections with occultism. Waraqa belonged to one of these cults.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad ...
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#170687 Apr 5, 2013
Surah 8:12
Anti-Islamics like to always bring this up and claim that this verse proves that Islam promotes terrorism and that the Quran orders Muslims to go and chop people's heads off along with their finger tips.



The fact that anti-Islamic’s make such claims shows their lack of knowledge on Islam, and that they should really study Islam with an open heart rather than visit anti-Islamic sites, and read anti-Islamic books and believe everything they tell you.



Even that goon Ali Sina uses this same argument over and over again showing how little he knows about Islam.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#170688 Apr 5, 2013
John wrote:
Hey muztards, I'm curious
What makes you creeps think you can come to western countries crawling around in the midst of Christians and rioting, whining, living as parasites off another race and yet not be hated???
We aren't interested in your Satanic religion.
Do you suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, you ignorant low class demented frustrated lonely little immigrant?
Christianity and Judaism ALSO came to Western countries from the Middle East.
These religions are quite portable.
Many of us embraced Islam because we believe it offers the best solution to the world's problems.
After reading your posts who wants to remain "Christian"
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#170689 Apr 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
You talk like a Muslim and act like a Muslim, so you must be a Muslim, right?
There is your answer.
Muslims are historically known liars.

Qur'an (9:3)-“…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Is this translation from the wretched Christian Liar Craig Winn?

Fool! The correct translation is: " And a proclamation from God and His Messenger is hereby made to all mankind on this day of the greater pilgrimage: God is free from obligation to the idolaters, and so is His Messenger. If you repent, it shall be for your own good; and if you turn away, then know that you can never escape God's judgement. Give the unbelievers the news of grievous suffering,"

Verses of Qur'aan are read as a section. In this section, Verses 9:1-5 form the section.

The pagans and idolaters, who were attacking Muslims, were given the final warning!

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