The President has failed us

The President has failed us

There are 412570 comments on the Times News story from Jun 9, 2012, titled The President has failed us. In it, Times News reports that:

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Times News.

bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#112156 Mar 6, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Way overdue. Do you want to know what scares me even more than what is on that graph right now? If we do nothing to change the formula, everyday that goes by the degree and extent of that disparity is INCREASING. As the commentator said, it's a long long way from the degree and extent of wealth inequality to anything even approximating Socialism. But, that graph is NOT representative for wealth distribution under free market capitalism where wealth changes hands. That's not what it shows. It shows wealth keeping and putting distance at an accelerated clip between themselves and EVERY other income sector in America. Without a strong middle class, we just aren't America, and it has been deeply weakened. I'll support anybody who'll do what is necessary to preserve a middle class. Sincerely, it HAS to come from the top, because there is NOTHING to be gained from further harming those so poor they don't even show up on the danged graph. The focus here is so so wrong.
If you want to go after the Global Corporate Elitists, the International Bankstes, then I'm with you.

It is gonna be a tough fight, though, in that they control the Main-Stream Media, Academia, Hollywood, the Print Media and Reporter Pools giving them the ability to demonize and marginalize ANY who oppose them.
higgans

Avon, IN

#112157 Mar 6, 2013
Jaxxon wrote:
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As best as I can tell they've changed some of the details of this case to suit their own narrative too.
Can't be sure because they're being very tight lipped about where their information is coming from.
give us an example, please, L-J.

(methinks some one is LYING again.)

the clock is running....

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112158 Mar 6, 2013
higgans wrote:
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give us an example, please, L-J.
(methinks some one is LYING again.)
the clock is running....
Like I said, there's no need in us trying to have a conversation about this just so you can ignore the facts and call me names.

I'll comment when I feel it's appropriate and not at your command.

There will be a trial and then we will know the truth.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Trump 2016 and beyond

#112159 Mar 6, 2013
Jaxxon wrote:
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It was posit that gave that "order".
I'd suggest you get a clue and take it up with him.
BTW...welcome back.
It was a request and not an "order" but you wouldn't know the difference. Could it be the culture that is to blame?
BTW, The fox has a point.
You do too but you have three points. Two at the tips of your tongue and one at the top of your head.
higgans

Avon, IN

#112160 Mar 6, 2013
_White American_ wrote:
<quoted text>It was implied that EBT cards were used in liquor stores to buy booze. I'm sure we have EBT card users in my area but I don't go out of my way to see what they are buying with them. I'm not my brothers keeper I guess you are.
And it is nice here.
:)
let's examine that statement of yours,'I'm not my brothers keeper'.

with welfare paid for by mandatory taxes, that makes ALL of us that pay said taxes our 'brothers keepers' by default.

maybe you should 'pay attention' and see what YOUR tax dollars ARE buying?

as to your 'spin' on the subject of EBT cards and liquor stores, did you not indicate that you did not think liquor stores 'took' EBT cards?

it's real simple, WA, post what you mean when you post... saves time explaining later.

of course, there will always be posters out there to re-interpret your 'meaning' despite your words (see Freebie turning a simple statement of facts into HATE speech... when there was no such mention of the words 'I hate'.)
higgans

Avon, IN

#112161 Mar 6, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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A magistrate is an officer of the state; in modern usage the term usually refers to a judge.
nice spin...'loser'.

(I think Freebie reported me. now 'loser' is either 'profane' or 'vulgar'. it wouldn't be the first time the child did so. do the Moderators even LOOK at our posts or they just respond on command?)

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112162 Mar 6, 2013
higgans wrote:
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that would be a STATEMRNT, WA.
"Okay" means cool, all-righty, I agree
"we" meaning more than ONE person, maybe referring to an organization, club, etc...
"don't" opposite of do
"need" a requirement as opposed to an option, i.e. we NEED to breathe
"you" a pronoun indicating a specific person other than the one speaking or writing
"to" what the hell IS the definition of 'to'? shorten version of TOwards, permission to take an action, move forward(?)
"do" perform, as in DO a job
"that" used to indicate a place, thing or action
hope that helps, WA
BTW, two things: 1) the referrenced statement was NOT an order, legal, lawful or otherwise and 2) GZ did take that 'statement' to heart and broke off following TM (AFTER he had already lost sight of HIM).
TM DID double-back. WHY? Freebie already answered that one (to give the bad ol' fool FOLLOWING him a Freebie-style beat down.)
if you don't understand WHY a person would do that, ASK Freebie...
sure can't ask TM.
"TM DID double-back."

This would be a good example of you insisting on "facts" that are unsupported.

We don't know how Zimmerman and the young man he killed came face to face, but you think you have it all figured out.

Yesterday and the day before there were people insisting that Martin made it home and then went back out looking for Zimmerman, today the teenager is supposed to have "doubled back".

You all have your own version of events and all of it is intended to make Trayvon Martin look "guilty".

I think Zimmerman is guilty of at least manslaughter, but I'm not going to add unsupported conjecture to the tale to strengthen that belief.

I'm waiting for the trial and then we'll know the truth.
whatthehey

Austin, TX

#112163 Mar 6, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>The "conservatives" on this thread brought the Trayvon Martin issue back into this thread.
..."the conservatives" on this thread...! Wonder WHY you said, "conservatives" as that is NOT your usual description?

Could it be.......wait for it...
whatthehey

Austin, TX

#112164 Mar 6, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>If this means you're going to start posting FACTS, it's all good. That said, I'm not very optimistic about a site that's a Pro-Zimmerman site. But, if it has to do with racist perspectives or racial stereotyping, it doesn't surprise me that it's something you find attractive.
The guilty one! BECAUSE some one made a post with - the-conservative-tree-house link pertaining to gun control- oh some 60 pages back.
higgans

Avon, IN

#112165 Mar 6, 2013
Freespirit8 wrote:
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The outrage you perceive is a reaction to your mission to destroy a young man's character after he was killed by the man you portray as a good samaritan and victim. You twist the truth, hoping that no one will factcheck you. You give every benefit of the doubt to Zimmerman, but absolutely none to Martin.
Without revealing too much, I was never an instigator and was not one who got into fights. I did have to fight for my life a couple of times, but I used my wits and courage over my fists and feet, though I was more than ready to do that, too.
Martin had to fight for his life that night. It was never a fair fight. And it was Zimmerman who didn't like the way Martin looked, that he was on his turf.
You defeat yourself with your own words.
you have made yourself BENEATH responding to...

and, I do not 'play' with children.

especially vindictive and emtionally insecure ones.

YOU reveal yourself every time you post.

don't worry, I don't report ANY body... I'm all grown up.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112166 Mar 6, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>It was a request and not an "order" but you wouldn't know the difference. Could it be the culture that is to blame?
BTW, The fox has a point.
You do too but you have three points. Two at the tips of your tongue and one at the top of your head.
Wow Posit, that was almost clever.

You have a new Ghost writer or something?

Listen, to be honest you're a minor player on a second rate thread on a run down forum and you're just not that important to me.

If you really don't want me to reply to your posts, or talk about you in mine, a good first step might be for you to stop adressing your posts to me and mentioning me when you're talking to other people.

Beyond that I don't know what to tell ya.
whatthehey

Austin, TX

#112167 Mar 6, 2013
Freespirit8 wrote:
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Thank you for admitting to the untruths and trying to smear the victim's reputation.
How silly! You made the "untruth" statement originally. I then told YOU, what I did NOT say...thank you! Sir/madame, Mr. Martin did the reputation ruining on his own! I have no need to smear the victim's reputation.
The young man sadly was not guided by responsible parents for sure!

You have a great day! DONE!

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Trump 2016 and beyond

#112168 Mar 6, 2013
Huntscoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>That's stereotyping- much like Ron White's assertion that "the PO-lice were stopping everyone driving on that particular stretch of sidewalk- that's stereotyping and that's wrong". I personally don't see the connection to the topic- it has nothing to do with it, except that the POTUS talked favorably about Martin (in between golf outings). I was on the side of the victim m'self until I saw that the media was using (initially) a photo of TM at age 12 and a photo of GZ at his worst- creating bias on behalf of "the powers that be"? A disgusting example of the media controlling and guiding public opinion. I think the court needs to be left alone and deside this case without prejudice...if now possible.
Oh, How did it go? "If I had a son......." or something like that? Well anyway, I agree and btw great post.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112169 Mar 6, 2013
whatthehey wrote:
<quoted text>..."the conservatives" on this thread...! Wonder WHY you said, "conservatives" as that is NOT your usual description?
Could it be.......wait for it...
When I talk about the "conservatives" on this thread I use quotation marks too.

Either that or I refer to them as far right.

Mostly because there are very few true conservatives posting here.

More than a few far right extremists, but very few true conservatives.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112171 Mar 6, 2013
higgans wrote:
<quoted text>
you have made yourself BENEATH responding to...
and, I do not 'play' with children.
especially vindictive and emtionally insecure ones.
YOU reveal yourself every time you post.
don't worry, I don't report ANY body... I'm all grown up.
Considering the fact that this makes at least half a dozen posts you've replied to by saying that they are beneath responding to, too stupid to respond to (and so on), I really don't think you get the whole concept of not responding.

In this case "all grown up" seems to be in the eye of the beholder.
Pok Guy

Plymouth, MN

#112172 Mar 6, 2013
Joe wrote:
It's amazing how people let Obama get away with wrecking our country. The guy totally sucks.
When are people going to realize Obama is a liberal maniac?
I realize most people on the left are either brainwashed or out to lunch.
All I want is for the government to leave me alone and let me pursue my version of freedom and happiness. If I get rich through my efforts and you don't or vice versa then so be it.
I just want my chance. Nobody is going to have a chance now, or it's going to be exceedingly more difficult.
You have a chance, Joe, the problem is that conservatives and Republicans believe that they are entitled to that chance alone, or at least first. They believe, by virtue of the color of their skin or their ancestry, they are superior, making them entitled to cut to the front of the line.

Conservatives and Republicans realize that this entitlement was theirs for the first 150 years of our nation, and they want to conserve this attitude (preservation of the status quo is a key feature of the GOP).

Thus, their anger at government—which they believe was “theirs”--that passes laws that attempt to level the playing field (i.e., anti-discrimination laws), and hate for those who benefit from anti-discrimination laws (e.g., minorities--especially blacks--, women, gays).

Conservatives and Republicans would love nothing better than a return to the days when men were men and sheep were scared.
higgans

Avon, IN

#112173 Mar 6, 2013
X -Man- wrote:
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Post removed for space...
<quoted text>
Really? Well let's break it up to see what's "wrong" about it.
<quoted text>
A true statement. Screw drivers are used for many purposes in today's day and age. Nothing "wrong" there. ;)
<quoted text>
It is not illegal to carry a screw driver. Fact
<quoted text>
This again, is a fact. Nothing "wrong" in this statement. An investigation into the jewelry was done at the school and it was not found to be stolen property.
<quoted text>
Trayvon Martin had no criminal record at the time of his death. Fact.
Contrary to your claims, there is nothing "wrong" in my post.
1) LE does consider a screwdriver a burglary tool;
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2) I'd bet almost ANY thing, 90% of schools consdier a screwdriver a 'weapon' and NOT to be carried/brought to school;
<quoted text>
3) try taking one on an AIRPLANE!;
<quoted text>
4) today's schools bend over backwards NOT to either expel kids (especially 'at risk' ones) or turn them over to LE;
<quoted text>
5) the story as reported was that TM denied 'ownership' of the jewelry AND refused to 'name names'(typical 'thug' behaviour);
<quoted text>
6) amid allegations that TM WAS a dealer, the jewelry MAY have been 'payment' in lieu of cash, and;
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7) like sooo many of these 'innocent' kids, TM was NOT perfect... in fact, he was TYPICAL, average... one of his peers... a product of HIS culture, period.
oh, AND...
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8) this poster is one of HIS peers... a product of HIS culture... a culture of DENY, DEFLECT AND DEMAGOGUE... a culture invested in victimhood and enabling BOTH bad personal behaviours and BAD FG policies.
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nice response... best I've seen by a poster like you.

I still stand by MINE, tho.

oh, and I work in the public ed system and speak from first hand experience.

as you should know, juvenile records are NOT open to public scrutinty.

add in the fact that most Administrators do NOT want to open themselves, and schools, to lawsuits, THEY DO BEND OVER BACKWARDS to downplay such matters.

he was suspended, wasn't he? do you have ANY idea what it takes to get suspended today? in MY school corp, FIRST you get IN school suspension THEN Alternative school and THEN, maybe, SUSPENSION (usually accompained by a trip to the D-Home or jail!).

funny story: just this last week, two 17 yr old GIRLS were caught shoplifting at a local Kohl's. they were, er, ARE students at MY school. they take the Criminal Justice class. they were WEARING THEIR CRIMINAL JUSTICE T-SHIRTS WHEN CAUGHT! the local PO that IS our security told the Director the next morning!!

one went to the D-Home and missed school the next day... the other was there. funny, yes?

must be all warm and fuzzy in YOUR world...la, la, la,,,

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112174 Mar 6, 2013
whatthehey wrote:
<quoted text>How silly! You made the "untruth" statement originally. I then told YOU, what I did NOT say...thank you! Sir/madame, Mr. Martin did the reputation ruining on his own! I have no need to smear the victim's reputation.
The young man sadly was not guided by responsible parents for sure!
You have a great day! DONE!
And I suppose that wasn't a smear against his parents either right?

Trayvon Martin was a seventeen year old kid and you have no idea how "responsible" his parents were.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Trump 2016 and beyond

#112175 Mar 6, 2013
higgans wrote:
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I wonder, did GZ ID himself to TM as a 'wannabe' ANYTHING before TM punched him? I don't think so...
according to your 'twisted' logic, citizens that join NW organizations give up their other Constitutional rights? even when not 'on duty'?
really? is that how you make your 'theory' work? bend the facts and reality to fit?
I think ANY citizen can intercede in stopping ANY crime against society... AT THEIR RISK. simply because LE and OTHER authority figures advise untrained civilians NOT to put THEIR lives at risk (I've never, ever heard any mention of 'YOU CAN'T' do that!' or "STOP! You might hurt the perp.'.)
methinks YOU are reaching....
still waiting for that FIRST, TINY bit of REAL evidence that disproves GZ's version....
thanks for not answering my very direct questions, too.:)
OMG, he is reaching. Me thinks too. LOL
whatthehey

Austin, TX

#112176 Mar 6, 2013
Liberals Own It wrote:
House GOP: We’re going to need to investigate ICE for those released illegal immigrants
posted at 8:01 pm on March 5, 2013 by Erika Johnsen
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano had one of the starring roles in the White House’s Nightmare-on-Sequester-Street messaging in the run-up to the budget cuts’ implementation last week, warning that “under sequestration, ICE would be forced to reduce current detention and removal operations, potentially affecting public safety, and would not be able to maintain 34,000 detention beds” reserved for detained illegal immigrants awaiting deportation proceedings.
After the backlash following that announcement, however, Napolitano tried to make the case that the decision was up to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials, but they certainly aren’t backing away from the decision — and the GOP is wondering if maybe the Obama administration didn’t go about all of this a little hastily. From the House Judiciary Committee, emphasis mine:
Read more: http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/05/house-g...
Oh, the Obama administration hastily moved WAY too early on this one for sure-"someones" called their bluff. The sky is not falling BUT life will rally as the cuts to out of control SPENDING are finally looking like a serious issue FORCED by the republicans by the sequestration.

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