Land Is Life, and It's Slipping Away

Feb 14, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Inter Press Service

Displaced families in this relocation site, 45 kilometres from Phnom Penh, have no access to schools, water, food or health clinics.

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Drgunzet

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Feb 15, 2013
 
If the North Vietnamese are still in charge in Cambodia, none of the families in the article above would be displaced. They would not suffer.

In 1989, when the North Vietnamese withdrew, a lot of Khmer folks were crying. They knew other murderous Khmer will abuse them once the North Vietnamese's protection was gone.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
Read here:

http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/jan7.htm

A lot of Khmers love the North Vietnamese for sure.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
Drgunzet wrote:
If the North Vietnamese are still in charge in Cambodia, none of the families in the article above would be displaced. They would not suffer.
In 1989, when the North Vietnamese withdrew, a lot of Khmer folks were crying. They knew other murderous Khmer will abuse them once the North Vietnamese's protection was gone.
stop lying we Khmer know viet are the killer. they kill Khmer people for land because viet have no land and good food to eat excepted dog,cat and rate are their food from their ancestor once they came to Khmer land they start to jealous because we have plenty of food to eat and our land file with fertilizer therefore viet find away to kill Khmer by let their people fuck all night and day to create more viet population to swallow Khmer land. fist they can't fight with Khmer straightforward because Khmer are smart than them and a better fighter than them. so viet find a trick to fight us. we khmer lost by trick not war.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/jan7.htm

It is only the oversea Khmers that are the real Viet haters, mostly from Sam Rainsy party and affiliates. The rest of the Cambodian population, except for remnants of the KR in Cambodia, do appreciate Vietnam's humanitarian action. They blamed Vietnam for over staying, but if you are trying to restore a Nation of murderers and terrorists, 10 years in the making is super fast. Ask anybody who tries to correct inmates in prison, how successful are they at doing that? Not too many inmates can fit into the society after their release. Oversea Khmers are haters of Viets because they thought Vietnam controls Cambodia, but in fact Cambodia has been controlled by Chinese businesses and government. Look who the Queen and the son King are seeing now? Just right after the funeral, they are whistled away to Beijing for indoctrination. Who did Hun Sen bent over and backward for during the last ASEAN 2012. The fact of the matter is, don't count on people to remember your good deeds, even the animals are more grateful than these people.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
Cambodia will fill up with Chinese ethnics in the nexts five years.....they see Cambodia as a land of opportunity to produce more offsprings....in China the government only allowed to have one or two kids in the family but Cambodia there're no limitation so therefore all Khmer ladies be prepare to open your skirts because the Chinese eggrolls are coming haaaaaa....
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Feb 16, 2013
 
Joking aside, they want a proxy in SEA. So it is not far-fetched that China will dump a lot of their people in Cambodia in the next few years. Khmers are so hateful of Vietnamese that they are blind to see this. If that's their choice, they have to live with it. Vietnam with a population of 90 million are worried of Chinese flooding and caused headache to it. Cambodia with 14 million - 4 million Chinese legals and illegals, or 10 million - 1 million Viet illegal or illegal, or just under 9 million pure Khmers is 10 times fewer people than Vietnam, how can they withstand the Chinese people invasion?
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Feb 17, 2013
 
Nice wrote:
Joking aside, they want a proxy in SEA. So it is not far-fetched that China will dump a lot of their people in Cambodia in the next few years. Khmers are so hateful of Vietnamese that they are blind to see this. If that's their choice, they have to live with it. Vietnam with a population of 90 million are worried of Chinese flooding and caused headache to it. Cambodia with 14 million - 4 million Chinese legals and illegals, or 10 million - 1 million Viet illegal or illegal, or just under 9 million pure Khmers is 10 times fewer people than Vietnam, how can they withstand the Chinese people invasion?
Killing field again, then proxy war again, more will leave the country, marry to foreigners, losing Cambodian way of life and values, losing traditions and language, rent out land, rent out culture heritage for investments. What else will Cambodians do for money? Does the day, on which Cambodia we know is only in the text book, come close?
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Feb 17, 2013
 
Drgunzet wrote:
Read here:
http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/jan7.htm
A lot of Khmers love the North Vietnamese for sure.
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January 7, 1979: was it "liberation" or "invasion" of Cambodia by the Vietnamese Arm Forces? This simple question has been a very divisive issue for many in Khmer community across Cambodia and overseas in the past 22 years. What is the correct answer? Was it "liberation" or was it "invasion" by Vietnam? The answer to this simple question can be very complicated.
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The answer to this simple question can be very complicated.
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Feb 17, 2013
 
Within wrote:
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Killing field again, then proxy war again, more will leave the country, marry to foreigners, losing Cambodian way of life and values, losing traditions and language, rent out land, rent out culture heritage for investments. What else will Cambodians do for money? Does the day, on which Cambodia we know is only in the text book, come close?
I saw in the Youtube clips, the Khmer Vietnamese are maintaining their Khmer tradition. And they are not murderous like the Khmers we know on this forum. And certainly they were not murderous like the Khmers during 1975-1978. I would say these Khmer are much better Khmer.

Agree?
Drgunzet

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Feb 17, 2013
 
I want to add. I was referring to the Khmer Vietnamese who live in the South Vietnam, in the Mekong area.

Khmer Vietnamese = Vietnamese citizen with Khmer ethnic.
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Feb 17, 2013
 
the best land will own by chinese and 99 year lease is mean can not take it back after 99 years the chinese will become khmer citizen and they children and grand children will occupy the land
chinese always win ,poor khmer will force out their home for rich chinese
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I want to add. I was referring to the Khmer Vietnamese who live in the South Vietnam, in the Mekong area.
Khmer Vietnamese = Vietnamese citizen with Khmer ethnic.
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Struggling to preserve our Khmer language on our land, most Khmer Krom parents would send the children, mostly boys, to local temples for study Khmer language from Buddhist monks. The boys usually stayed at the local temple for several months up to years.

June 1949, after the Vietnamese government shut down Khmer schools, they drove Khmer Krom out of homes and businesses from big cities (such as Prey Norko (now know as Saigon or Ho Chi Minh City), to undeveloped land in the countryside. Once our Khmer Krom people moved out the cities, Vietnamese people moved in. Vietnamese took over our homes; our businesses, while our people struggled to survive, starting all over, with only clothes on back and empty hands. During that time, a large group of Khmer Krom villagers fled to Cambodia, hoping for peaceful life on the upper part of our land.

Meanwhile South Vietnamese drafted young Khmer Krom men into military services to fight the North Vietnamese. American’s requested many Khmer Krom soldiers to transfer in their Special Force because not only were Khmer Krom men much taller and stronger than Vietnamese men, Khmer Krom men were also known for being brave warriors, trustworthy and honest. Many Khmer Krom men fought for the American and South Vietnamese during the Vietnam War. Many Khmer Krom lives were lost on our land. Many unsung heroes died silent in Kampuchea Krom. Till today, no sympathy, no monument, no special treatment, and no word ever mention from either American or South Vietnamese that many Khmer Krom soldiers has fought and died for our land in Vietnam War.

On April 1975, in Kampuchea Krom the North Vietnamese took over South Vietnam. Vietnamese communists did the same to Khmer Krom; they forced Khmer Krom to “relocated”, abandon homes and businesses, again.“Move or die!” They ordered. Again, our people packed up, again we left our homes, again we abandoned our businesses so the Vietnamese communists officials and their families could move in, took over our properties, our land that we work so hard over pass twenty years to rebuilt. Many Khmer Krom who used to work with South Vietnamese were captured and imprisoned. Some Khmer Krom were lucky to be alive, free to walk out prison after many years in re-education camp, but many Khmer Krom died in prison from torture, illness and hunger. Some Khmer Krom are still missing since captured by Vietnamese communists back in 1975.

Ironically, on April 1975, in Cambodia, our Khmer Krom people life turned from bad to worst when Khmer Rouge show up. Khmer Rouge also evicted everyone out of the cities, just like Vietnamese government did to Khmer Krom on our land. When Khmer Rouge murdered millions of innocents people, amongst the deaths were mostly Khmer and Khmer Krom.

Why did Khmer Rouge only killed Khmer and Khmer krom?. Were there a Viet espionage in Khmer Rouge organization?,
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Struggling to preserve our Khmer language on our land, most Khmer Krom parents would send the children, mostly boys, to local temples for study Khmer language from Buddhist monks. The boys usually stayed at the local temple for several months up to years.
June 1949, after the Vietnamese government shut down Khmer schools, they drove Khmer Krom out of homes and businesses from big cities (such as Prey Norko (now know as Saigon or Ho Chi Minh City), to undeveloped land in the countryside. Once our Khmer Krom people moved out the cities, Vietnamese people moved in. Vietnamese took over our homes; our businesses, while our people struggled to survive, starting all over, with only clothes on back and empty hands. During that time, a large group of Khmer Krom villagers fled to Cambodia, hoping for peaceful life on the upper part of our land.
Meanwhile South Vietnamese drafted young Khmer Krom men into military services to fight the North Vietnamese. American’s requested many Khmer Krom soldiers to transfer in their Special Force because not only were Khmer Krom men much taller and stronger than Vietnamese men, Khmer Krom men were also known for being brave warriors, trustworthy and honest. Many Khmer Krom men fought for the American and South Vietnamese during the Vietnam War. Many Khmer Krom lives were lost on our land. Many unsung heroes died silent in Kampuchea Krom. Till today, no sympathy, no monument, no special treatment, and no word ever mention from either American or South Vietnamese that many Khmer Krom soldiers has fought and died for our land in Vietnam War.
On April 1975, in Kampuchea Krom the North Vietnamese took over South Vietnam. Vietnamese communists did the same to Khmer Krom; they forced Khmer Krom to “relocated”, abandon homes and businesses, again.“Move or die!” They ordered. Again, our people packed up, again we left our homes, again we abandoned our businesses so the Vietnamese communists officials and their families could move in, took over our properties, our land that we work so hard over pass twenty years to rebuilt. Many Khmer Krom who used to work with South Vietnamese were captured and imprisoned. Some Khmer Krom were lucky to be alive, free to walk out prison after many years in re-education camp, but many Khmer Krom died in prison from torture, illness and hunger. Some Khmer Krom are still missing since captured by Vietnamese communists back in 1975.
Ironically, on April 1975, in Cambodia, our Khmer Krom people life turned from bad to worst when Khmer Rouge show up. Khmer Rouge also evicted everyone out of the cities, just like Vietnamese government did to Khmer Krom on our land. When Khmer Rouge murdered millions of innocents people, amongst the deaths were mostly Khmer and Khmer Krom.
Why did Khmer Rouge only killed Khmer and Khmer krom?. Were there a Viet espionage in Khmer Rouge organization?,
Lie, the Khmer Rouge killed 500,000 Chams out of 800,000 Chams living in Cambodia. Most Cham men were killed leaving so many widows.

So, don't pretend to be innocent by asking: Why did Khmer Rouge only killed Khmer and Khmer krom?. Were there a Viet espionage in Khmer Rouge organization?

It's obvious that the Khmer people are murderous type. That's why they could never win anything in international competition in Chess, Math, Physics, IT and so on. They are into murdering other people and that they already won the first place in the world.
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Lie, the Khmer Rouge killed 500,000 Chams out of 800,000 Chams living in Cambodia. Most Cham men were killed leaving so many widows.
So, don't pretend to be innocent by asking: Why did Khmer Rouge only killed Khmer and Khmer krom?. Were there a Viet espionage in Khmer Rouge organization?
It's obvious that the Khmer people are murderous type. That's why they could never win anything in international competition in Chess, Math, Physics, IT and so on. They are into murdering other people and that they already won the first place in the world.
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When Vietnam shut down all Khmer public schools on June 1949 they destroyed all Khmer textbooks in Kampuchea Krom.
When Khmer Rouge took over Cambodia on April 1975, before murders millions Khmer/Khmer Krom, they also destroyed all Khmer textbooks. As result our real Khmer history has been deliberately erased. Not only that the Vietnamese don’t like to tell the world, especially the younger Khmer/Khmer Krom generations, that South Vietnam was Kampuchea Krom, but most newer Khmer history books also failed to mention how Cambodia lost our Kampuchea Krom land to Vietnam on 6-4-1949.

1978, when Vietnamese invaded Cambodia, still fear of Khmer Rouge, many Khmer Krom villagers tried to return to Kampuchea Krom, but were shot by Vietnamese communist soldiers. Thousands of innocent Khmer Krom children and women died on our land. Vietnamese communists denied murdering these innocent Khmer Krom villagers and they blamed it on the Khmer Rouge.

Seeing that return to Kampuchea Krom was too risky, some Khmer Krom have no other choice but trying to build another new life on our upper land, Cambodia. Until, recently some top Cambodian officials decided that Khmer Krom do not have the right to be in Cambodia but real Vietnamese do. They welcome millions Vietnamese come and live freely on our upper land but not Khmer Krom. They said Khmer Krom belong to Kampuchea Krom and all Khmer people in Kampuchea Krom should be considered as Vietnamese, and deported back to South Vietnam. Those sent back went straight to prison and some were never heard from, or seen again.

No word could describe the Khmer Krom pain when seeing people from other countries could get permission to build private schools, homes or businesses on our land, but the rightful landowners, Khmer Krom, we couldn’t even get permission to build a single Khmer public school on our land. More than fifty years went by, still, there is no Khmer public school on Kampuchea Krom since 1949 when Vietnam shut down all Khmer schools.
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However, if you go to Cambodia, you will see many Vietnamese businesses, schools and even Vietnamese hospital in Cambodia for millions of Vietnamese who came and stay, since Vietnam invaded Cambodia in 1978. You will see many Khmer children couldn’t afford to go to school, many poor Khmer children begging on the streets or scavengers on dump sites struggling to survive. Along the rivers there are so many Khmer people living on boats, dreaming for a piece of our land to call home.

For millions Khmer people in Kampuchea Krom daily life is struggling for survive. Many Khmer Krom live under plastic tents with no windows, doors, running water or electric, many poor Khmer Krom families wonder when the Vietnamese government is going to order them to move again. Wondering when the oppression and hardship will end, a good life seems only to come in dreams; a dream that some day, the Khmer Krom people will be free to live peacefully on our land.

Today, the world is getting to know more about us. Buddha said,“Nothing could be hidden from the truth.” So it is up to you, my Khmer/ Khmer Krom brothers and sisters to learn more of our real history and tell the world the truth that these were our lands.
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Tep Tida Mohar Sakor wrote:
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However, if you go to Cambodia, you will see many Vietnamese businesses, schools and even Vietnamese hospital in Cambodia for millions of Vietnamese who came and stay, since Vietnam invaded Cambodia in 1978. You will see many Khmer children couldn’t afford to go to school, many poor Khmer children begging on the streets or scavengers on dump sites struggling to survive. Along the rivers there are so many Khmer people living on boats, dreaming for a piece of our land to call home.
For millions Khmer people in Kampuchea Krom daily life is struggling for survive. Many Khmer Krom live under plastic tents with no windows, doors, running water or electric, many poor Khmer Krom families wonder when the Vietnamese government is going to order them to move again. Wondering when the oppression and hardship will end, a good life seems only to come in dreams; a dream that some day, the Khmer Krom people will be free to live peacefully on our land.
Today, the world is getting to know more about us. Buddha said,“Nothing could be hidden from the truth.” So it is up to you, my Khmer/ Khmer Krom brothers and sisters to learn more of our real history and tell the world the truth that these were our lands.
Lies, I looked on Youtube and could not find any clips about numerous Vietnamese business, nor I saw any millions of Vietnamese in Cambodia. I fact, i found more clips about the the Khmers getting bulldozed by other Khmers. And they were suffering.

Why is it so hard to find video clips to prove millions Vietnamese in Cambodia? Why is it so easy to see clips of Khmer Vietnamese living happily in Vietnam instead?
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Lies, I looked on Youtube and could not find any clips about numerous Vietnamese business, nor I saw any millions of Vietnamese in Cambodia. I fact, i found more clips about the the Khmers getting bulldozed by other Khmers. And they were suffering.
Why is it so hard to find video clips to prove millions Vietnamese in Cambodia? Why is it so easy to see clips of Khmer Vietnamese living happily in Vietnam instead?
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Yes - Khmers live happily in Vietnam???
http://sokheounnews.files.wordpress.com/2010/...
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Nice wrote:
http://www.mekong.net/cambodia /jan7.htm
It is only the oversea Khmers that are the real Viet haters, mostly from Sam Rainsy party and affiliates. The rest of the Cambodian population, except for remnants of the KR in Cambodia, do appreciate Vietnam's humanitarian action. They blamed Vietnam for over staying, but if you are trying to restore a Nation of murderers and terrorists, 10 years in the making is super fast. Ask anybody who tries to correct inmates in prison, how successful are they at doing that? Not too many inmates can fit into the society after their release. Oversea Khmers are haters of Viets because they thought Vietnam controls Cambodia, but in fact Cambodia has been controlled by Chinese businesses and government. Look who the Queen and the son King are seeing now? Just right after the funeral, they are whistled away to Beijing for indoctrination. Who did Hun Sen bent over and backward for during the last ASEAN 2012. The fact of the matter is, don't count on people to remember your good deeds, even the animals are more grateful than these people.
I don't hate Vietnamese people, but I do hate Vietnamese dumb ass like you. Do you expect anyone to believe your shit here on this forum? The only people people who believe you are the Vietnamese dumb ass from IdaHo. I don't call invasion and occupation of my country as humanitarian act. You can make yourself feel good by calling it whatever, but the Cambodian people and the Intrnational Community knew of your intention. Without the economic sanctions, the VCs would still occupying Our lands.
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SurinBoy wrote:
Cambodia will fill up with Chinese ethnics in the nexts five years.....they see Cambodia as a land of opportunity to produce more offsprings....in China the government only allowed to have one or two kids in the family but Cambodia there're no limitation so therefore all Khmer ladies be prepare to open your skirts because the Chinese eggrolls are coming haaaaaa....
chinese run cambodia that the fact khmer have a little say what out come of future cambodia
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Angkor wrote:
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January 7, 1979: was it "liberation" or "invasion" of Cambodia by the Vietnamese Arm Forces? This simple question has been a very divisive issue for many in Khmer community across Cambodia and overseas in the past 22 years. What is the correct answer? Was it "liberation" or was it "invasion" by Vietnam? The answer to this simple question can be very complicated.
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The answer to this simple question can be very complicated.
If I am a fireman and see a Khmer house on fire, I would have along talk with the owner, "Well, what do you think? Would you label me as invasion of privacy? How long can I say in your house to extinguish all the flame?"

"Perhaps you only want me to put out the fire in the kitchen, then you put out the rest yourself?"

I can go on and on while watching the stupid house burn out. LoL @ the stupid Khmer buffaloes.

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