Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Spocko

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Feb 14, 2013
 
Alien outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>So, humans have convinced themselves and anyone that will listen or read a text book that they have it all figured out.....this human existence thing. The dinosaur demise, the Big Bang..........wow, intelligence at its finest.We can stop thinking, analyzing, calculating and exploring deep space. If human history is any indication of the humanoid future.....all species become extinct.
More power to you old chump, it's a free country ignorance and stupidity is perfectly legal ...

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Feb 14, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
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Here we have the puddle gooist in all his glory, to want to know how life sprang into existence is an irrational demand? Dud it may get cold tonight ,wrap up in that quilt of self imposed ignorance decorated with denial .Wouldn't want to defile your religion would we?
Poor bohart, ever the ignorant boob.

So what is your strategy bo? Do you think that if you can debunk the idea of abiogenesis you can debunk evolution? They are two separate parts of the story. Evolution does not give a fig how life got here. It could have been by natural means (what is normally called abiogenesis), your God could have snapped his fingers and made the first cell, or it could even have been E.T. who stopped here to phone home. Once life started that is when evolution as we know began.

Scientists will openly admit when they don't have all of the answers, as they do with abiogenesis. You don't expect them to stop looking for the answers, do you? On the subject of evolution they have enough answers so that they are very sure. You can't bother us with you nonsense. Go ahead, we will just, very gladly, point out that you are an idiot. And probably a liar too.
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Alien outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Your first sentence should be, "There is an enormous Body of Brainwashing.........." The human animal is clueless!
So if you're human you're brainwashed and therefore don't know any more about the aliens than we do.

Or if you're the brainwashing alien you just informed us that you're part of an advance force involved in subjugating our species. In which case we now know to get all minigun on your azz if we happen to see any little green men.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
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Comparing live births to abiogenesis? ha ,ha, ha , stop ,stop your killing me. Liar, liar , liar, so says Three dog night
Problem? You said life required intelligent mechanisms to form. I demonstrated otherwise. So far you've not provided your alternative intelligent mechanisms or evidence of them.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
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Stop it!, stop it, ha,ha,ha, countless varibles !, miniscule variance , 4 billion years !and when you can't answer whip out the Godmagic line. Whoa.!
I can't answer, you can't answer. Only one of us though is searching for answers.

It ain't you.

And it still has no bearing on the validity of evolution.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
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Here we have the puddle gooist in all his glory, to want to know how life sprang into existence is an irrational demand? Dud it may get cold tonight ,wrap up in that quilt of self imposed ignorance decorated with denial .Wouldn't want to defile your religion would we?
Notice that your baseless insults are not actually capable of dealing with the content of my posts.

I can demonstrate your ignorance and dishonesty. You can't demonstrate mine.
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#75908
Feb 14, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
..........Onward Puddle Gooists
Dishonest straw-man.
bohart wrote:
Onward puddle goooists marching as to war !
with the word of Darrwin going on before!
The theory of evolution does not rely on abiogenesis.
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Dawkins the royal master,
leads against the foe!
Atheism is irrelevant to evolution.
bohart wrote:
Forward into battle, see his book sales goooo!
onward puddle gooists marching as to war,
with the word of Darwin ,going on before!
Now everyone bow their head in awesome reverence to the power of the goo, all life came from the goo, and no life that exists came not from the goo.
Blessed be the goo and the randomness from which the goo sprang into life to evolve all human beings into a life of total freedom from morality, or immorality or any standard from which humans must adhere
Morality is a subjective concept and has no bearing on the validity of science. However as a dishonest theist it is impossible for you to be capable of genuine altruism.
bohart wrote:
except the ones which are ordained by the shifting sands of time which aided the goo in our creation.Let us hail our trinity.
Nothing ,which our universe sprang from
The goo,
and the purposelessness of life.'
Life's "purpose" or alleged lack of same is a philosophical concept and hence not relevant to the validity of science. Science doesn't care what philosophy has to say. Though as we can see you are bereft of either scientific knowledge or philosophical answers. Only faulty criticisms of reality based purely in pseudo-scientific theology.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Poor bohart, ever the ignorant boob.
So what is your strategy bo? Do you think that if you can debunk the idea of abiogenesis you can debunk evolution? They are two separate parts of the story. Evolution does not give a fig how life got here. It could have been by natural means (what is normally called abiogenesis), your God could have snapped his fingers and made the first cell, or it could even have been E.T. who stopped here to phone home. Once life started that is when evolution as we know began.
Scientists will openly admit when they don't have all of the answers, as they do with abiogenesis. You don't expect them to stop looking for the answers, do you? On the subject of evolution they have enough answers so that they are very sure. You can't bother us with you nonsense. Go ahead, we will just, very gladly, point out that you are an idiot. And probably a liar too.
Probably? IS a certified liar. Every time he conflates abiogenesis with Darwinian evolution and atheism all in the same breath. When pointed out the pros and cons of each concept and why these ARE separate concepts he makes lame jokes instead of rational counter-arguments.

In short, he's just another dishonest cowardly liar for Jesus.

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Feb 14, 2013
 
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>So you say.
All available evidence clearly indicates otherwise.
Do you still think that your ignorance of science proves your deity?
Now tell me how did the universe came into form, if your answer is still i don't know, you like every other person, can not disprove the existence, because you guys do not know.
Don't deny what you don't know, just an advice.

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Feb 14, 2013
 
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Who's trying to "disprove" the existence of your deity?
You can say whatever you want to say, but the fact remains, God's existence can never be disproved by any one, even science can not do that.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Now tell me how did the universe came into form, if your answer is still i don't know
No, but we have some ideas. And we're at least at work on a quantum theory of gravity which may mean that we may get to know at some point.
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you like every other person, can not disprove the existence, because you guys do not know.
Why on Earth would we try to disprove existence? That's daft. The universe exists. It's not us who are trying to disprove it.
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Don't deny what you don't know, just an advice.
Physician heal thyself.

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Feb 14, 2013
 
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Umm... not according to your posts. Shit (that is, anything that agrees with your stance) is all you will accept as an answer. You are the lowest form of religionist... one that will steadfastly reject verifiable reality in order maintain your obviously frail grip on your religion.
We are in a world where democracy and fundamental human rights prevails, so you are free to throw out any shit from your damn mouth. Now tell me how did the universe came into form?
If the answer still stands on, i don't know, then you have no evidence disproving the existence, because you don't know.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You can say whatever you want to say, but the fact remains, God's existence can never be disproved by any one, even science can not do that.
Yes, we know. Thank you. In fact I've been pointing it out to fundies on here for YEARS.

Including you.

Somehow you STILL missed it.

I've been agreeing with you and you still missed it.

Science cannot disprove (a) God. Therefore the concept is non-scientific and irrelevant to science. We can now dismiss it the same way we dismiss Cosmic Sheep.

Because you never know - the Cosmic Sheep MIGHT just be responsible for the universe.

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Feb 14, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so when you christians invented your religion and were the vast minority, you must have been really, really wrong, huh?
your logic skills would be embarrassing if you were a third grader. for an adult they are shameful
The mouth can do two things:
1. Kill
2. Build

So, until you tell me how did the universe came into form, i will just see you as an adult with the brain of a child.

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Feb 14, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i do not need to disprove something that no-one has ony proof of.
seems the total and utter lack of even the teensiest-weensiest shred of any kind of evidence at all is all th proof anyu one would need. and the proven lies your cult has told you about htis 'god". and the proven re-used myths in his story from previous proven myth cults.
anything else you need?
Proof?
Proof my foot. Just admit your ignorance, the world alone, is a big proof of God's existence, think straight, Mr. Pessimist.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Proof?
Proof my foot. Just admit your ignorance, the world alone, is a big proof of God's existence, think straight, Mr. Pessimist.
In your world that is ...

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Feb 14, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you have proof of that? no you don't. another proven lie from Chip...sad...very sad. your mother must be hanging her head in shame...
Irony!!
Now tell me how did the universe came into form, sick fellow?
No is not an answer!

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Feb 14, 2013
 
thewordofme wrote:
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The maker cannot exist without a maker.
Evidence?
Now tell me how did the universe came without a maker?

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Feb 14, 2013
 
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Charles Idemi, was the majority right in Galileo's time?
And also now, the statistics of atheism and christianity is an evidence to that.
Galileo was a scientist and a firm believer of God, yes or no?

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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Still waiting for ANY real evidence FOR a God.

Been looking for over 50 years now....
You never heard of the Bible?

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