Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#75929 Feb 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Yes, we know. Thank you. In fact I've been pointing it out to fundies on here for YEARS.
Including you.
Somehow you STILL missed it.
I've been agreeing with you and you still missed it.
Science cannot disprove (a) God. Therefore the concept is non-scientific and irrelevant to science. We can now dismiss it the same way we dismiss Cosmic Sheep.
Because you never know - the Cosmic Sheep MIGHT just be responsible for the universe.
What ever!
The facts is that, no statement, whether good or bad can change the reality of God.

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#75930 Feb 14, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible is not evidence. It is obviously conceived and written by humans. It is full of problems.
Yes it is. Your denying it is not proof against it.

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#75931 Feb 14, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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In your world that is ...
Now answer the question, how did the universe came into form?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#75932 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Evidence?
Now tell me how did the universe came without a maker?
Fine as soon as you tell us who made the maker.

It is not logical to assume that there had to be a god without positive evidence.

So as soon as you show us positive evidence for your god we will tell you how the universe came into being without a maker.

By the way, it is up to the person making a positive claim to provide evidence for their claim. You need evidence for your god. We will provide evidence for evolution. For the Big Bang. For the formation of the Solar System etc..

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#75933 Feb 14, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes it is. Your denying it is not proof against it.
It is not just denial. We have evidence that supports our claims.

You and your side do not have evidence that back yours.

We probably know the Bible better than you do. For example, we probably know the Ten Commandments better than you do.

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#75934 Feb 14, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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We don't know yet Charles. Its only been a hundred years or so that we have begun to tackle such problems. The universe has been around for billions of years.
Good i like that word, hope you know that you are applying what we christians call faith?
Like i said, atheism is a form of faith.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#75935 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Good i like that word, hope you know that you are applying what we christians call faith?
Like i said, atheism is a form of faith.
Wrong, faith is believing in something without reason. For an atheist to believe in something he must have a reason.

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#75936 Feb 14, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Fine as soon as you tell us who made the maker.
It is not logical to assume that there had to be a god without positive evidence.
So as soon as you show us positive evidence for your god we will tell you how the universe came into being without a maker.
By the way, it is up to the person making a positive claim to provide evidence for their claim. You need evidence for your god. We will provide evidence for evolution. For the Big Bang. For the formation of the Solar System etc..
Kudos for the foul rantings.
If you have the evidence show it!
Big bang is a trash.

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#75937 Feb 14, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong, faith is believing in something without reason. For an atheist to believe in something he must have a reason.
Shit!
For how long?
Just admit your ignorance.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#75938 Feb 14, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes it is. Your denying it is not proof against it.
Of course my denial doesn't prove it wrong, but science is doing a pretty good job of it, you just don't know it yet.
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75939 Feb 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So if you're human you're brainwashed and therefore don't know any more about the aliens than we do.
Or if you're the brainwashing alien you just informed us that you're part of an advance force involved in subjugating our species. In which case we now know to get all minigun on your azz if we happen to see any little green men.
Don't be scared. They made humans and all life on earth. Humans think they(aliens) are God(s), angels and Demons.........The primitive human animal just out of the dark ages has a mind steeped in folk lure and tale tales. The aliens know the human animal well. The humans comprehension levels are low, unable to grasp the alien beings. In order to cope with reality humans went to what they know, story telling, a coping mechanism. That's where the "Fear of God" came from. Fear of the unknown, not wanting to know, knowing their world was shattered beyond comprehension.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#75940 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are a sham!
What about the equator, the functions of the datelines, whereby a day is either gained or lost, is that not reality in your eyes, Kitten?
You are indeed clueless.
Study your Geography lessons!
Um, do you actually think that the equator is an actual line drawn on the planet? It is you who is clueless, they are all arbitrary, get it, that means we invented the concepts and notions, they don't exist except on paper, they aren't real, they are a measurement. They aren't even lines.

The equator is 90 degrees from the poles, that's it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#75941 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Now answer the question, how did the universe came into form?
Still waiting for your answer.

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#75942 Feb 14, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Of course my denial doesn't prove it wrong, but science is doing a pretty good job of it, you just don't know it yet.
Bill, science is man made and we all know that, man made things are not all that reliable.
There are limitations for science.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#75943 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Good i like that word, hope you know that you are applying what we christians call faith?
Like i said, atheism is a form of faith.
No, that was an honest answer, something you christians have no word for because, and you prove this all the time, honesty is a foreign concept.

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#75944 Feb 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um, do you actually think that the equator is an actual line drawn on the planet? It is you who is clueless, they are all arbitrary, get it, that means we invented the concepts and notions, they don't exist except on paper, they aren't real, they are a measurement. They aren't even lines.
The equator is 90 degrees from the poles, that's it.
Ok, but not so fast, what about the international dateline, where a day is either gained or lost, east or west?
What about that?
Is that not spiritual reality in your very own eyes?
Think!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#75945 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bill, science is man made and we all know that, man made things are not all that reliable.
There are limitations for science.
Yet you trust a man made book called the bible for absolute guidance. When has a prayer landed us on the moon? Science did it, and so reliably that we launch things into orbit all the time. Science is reliable enough to bring the internet to you. Science is reliable enough to give you food that doesn't kill you, and clean water, and electricity for light, and medicine that extends your life past 20 or 30 years.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#75946 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ok, but not so fast, what about the international dateline, where a day is either gained or lost, east or west?
What about that?
Is that not spiritual reality in your very own eyes?
Think!
Um, it's actually just a fact, a result of the planet being a spheriod, it's still pretty arbitrary too, we could have had that same line go down through Seattle, or through China, it would still be exactly the same. Europe was chosen for it's location because they were some of the most proliferate explorers, and a bit arrogant.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#75947 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bill, science is man made and we all know that, man made things are not all that reliable.
Like the Bible....you are being conned.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#75948 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Kudos for the foul rantings.
If you have the evidence show it!
Big bang is a trash.
Chuckles, I don't cast pearls before swine. You first need to show that you understand the concept of evidence.

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