Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223361 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#73928 Feb 5, 2013
trekx wrote:
<quoted text>First off Rain on rocks, WTF?? If your trying to refer to the origin of life in your own nieve way its much more complicated then that and its not simply spontaneous. Human life as we are today is a evolutionary process that has taken billions of years. Like i said read a science book. evolution has been proven over and over again and if your think you can disprove it wright it down get it peer reviewed and collect your nobel prize...
No it's not more complicated. science claims that millions of years of
rain washed the essence of life out of the rocks and into the primordial soup then one day poof life.

There is zero proof for macro evolution.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#73929 Feb 5, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>evidence for evolution?
No there is no such thing as evolution.
That's just a very old science myth.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#73930 Feb 5, 2013
trekx wrote:
<quoted text>Again i will say... "If your trying to refer to the origin of life in your own nieve way its much more complicated then that and its not simply spontaneous. Human life as we are today is a evolutionary process that has taken billions of years. Like i said read a science book. evolution has been proven over and over again and if you think you can disprove it then wright it down get it peer reviewed and collect your nobel prize"...
Unlike you repeating a lie doesn't make me believe it.

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#73931 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
No it's not more complicated. science claims that millions of years of
rain washed the essence of life out of the rocks and into the primordial soup then one day poof life.
There is zero proof for macro evolution.
Yes it is very much more complicated then that, and evolution is a proven fact and the reason why you need a new flu shoot every year. And like i said disprove it and collect your nobel prize not to mention the organizations that are offering cash rewards totaling millions of dollars for disproving it.

So tell me, what is a better more logical explanation for life, A. an invisible being that lives in the sky snapped its fingers and poof there is life. Or B. microscopic biological organisms evolved over billions of years forming thousands of species including humans. Seems pretty straight forward to me ...

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#73932 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I mean spontaneous life generation.
There is nothing wrong with this term as its proven to provide just as much life as
abiogenesis.
Go ahead and rule out things that you have no proof or reason to rule out. Your worst Wild Ass Guess is a great idea. You seem to quite use to that.
LOL. Rain falling on rocks, why with every Thunderstorm we should see new life happening all the time. Why is it that science has not been able to create life yet? It's just rain and rocks, should not be to hard to set that up in the lab.
I see you took the common creatard tactic of ignoring evidence.

You obviously did not watch the video I linked otherwise you would not still be asking such moronic questions.

Watch the video and try again.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#73933 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike you repeating a lie doesn't make me believe it.
Besides, repeating lies is a tactic that creatards already have a patent on.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#73934 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
No it's not more complicated. science claims that millions of years of
rain washed the essence of life out of the rocks and into the primordial soup then one day poof life.
There is zero proof for macro evolution.
Again wrong word idiot.

The word you want is "evidence" more specifically "scientific evidence".

There are literally mountains of scientific evidence that supports evolution. And no scientific evidence that supports creationism.

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#73935 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike you repeating a lie doesn't make me believe it.
Hey the burden of proof lies on religion. Science is a proven method and a far better explanation then, its true because i read it in a ancient book full is superstition written by men in a time when they believed the world was flat... The bible is the true lie. and if you disapprove of science so much then become Amish.
ZACKLY

Gulfport, MS

#73936 Feb 6, 2013
trekx wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it is very much more complicated then that, and evolution is a proven fact and the reason why you need a new flu shoot every year. And like i said disprove it and collect your nobel prize not to mention the organizations that are offering cash rewards totaling millions of dollars for disproving it.
So tell me, what is a better more logical explanation for life, A. an invisible being that lives in the sky snapped its fingers and poof there is life. Or B. microscopic biological organisms evolved over billions of years forming thousands of species including humans. Seems pretty straight forward to me ...
It has already been discussed on this thread. The Creator created living things at once and then he showed them patterns to follow to be fruitful and multiply them after their own kind. Everything follows patterns according to the theory. The theory suggest that some species are made to follow after similar patterns by are their own kind. Have you heard of SCP theory?

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#73937 Feb 6, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
We are energy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Su2jltmOITUXX
Everything is energy

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#73938 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>You have no evidence disproving the existence of a God. The universe is a proof of God's existence, what brought it into existence?
A question no one has ever correctly and truthfully answered.
That is a double negative, did you progress from home school?

So your argument is no evidence? Right!!! How about logic? How about critical thinking? How about NO EVIDENCE? Hmmm…

Actually I do have evidence and so does everyone else, as I have told you before and you have ignored that evidence because it does not suite your sensibilities. E=MC^2 proves that no omnipotent (infinite power/energy) being (Revelation 19:6 KJV) can exist in this universe because you exist.

Nope the universe is ***thought*** to be proof of existence of god by those who are not capable of rational and critical thinking and logic. By people who consider the thought and ignorance of bronze age understanding to be more valid that modern knowledge. By people who are unwilling to accept the facts that stare them in the face.

There is no evidence for the existence or non existence of a god. No evidence either way. Now I have no evidence for the existence of a Ferrari ignition key in my purse and guess what, there is NO Ferrari ignition key in my purse.

A question that no one YET knows the answer to, so it’s silly to guess, right? The thing is the science IS looking for the answer. Godbots aren’t, they are happy to wallow in their ignorance and continue believing their guess.

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#73939 Feb 6, 2013
ZACKLY wrote:
<quoted text>It has already been discussed on this thread. The Creator created living things at once and then he showed them patterns to follow to be fruitful and multiply them after their own kind. Everything follows patterns according to the theory. The theory suggest that some species are made to follow after similar patterns by are their own kind. Have you heard of SCP theory?
No it has nothing to do with your ancient beliefs and superstitions. I deal is sane, rational, logical, reality. Not primitive believes of imaginary beings in the sky and ancient books written by some goat herders in the desert that believed that the world was flat.

If i where to say to you that Harry potter is all true and i know this because i read the book. this is about as insane as you talking about your god and bible sound to a rational Atheist ..

You see the problem with us Atheist is we like to think and we like real logical answers back up by real logical facts. I'm not going to accept its true because its in my ancient book of superstitions (bible)or because my imaginary friend (God) made everything end of story. These are simple answers for simple minds..
FREE SERVANT
#73940 Feb 6, 2013
The SCP or Systems, Cycles and Patterns idea was formulated here on these forum topix threads and the Dude and Kong are part of its history. The nay sayers have caused it to come into what it is.

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#73941 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And i am telling you that, that does not change Newton's beliefs of God and also does not change Einstein statement about religion and science. You once again proven wrong.
And I am telling you that Newton’s beliefs were irrelevant to his discoveries. Whether he believed in a god or the flying spaghetti monster chance has an apple falling in his view, and his belief only coincidentally pertinent to his inventions.

I am also telling you that given your obvious bias and misunderstanding you are misinterpreting or deliberately misunderstanding Einstein’s statement but first we will establish which statement :-

Do you mean Einstein’s statement “The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”

Or Einstein’s statement “For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions.”

Or Einstein’s statement "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it".

Or Einstein’s statement "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."

Or Einstein’s statement "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty."

Or Einstein’s statement “Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbour such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all one's goodness and righteousness."

Or Einstein’s statement "A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectual on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

Or Einstein’s statement “Morality is of the highest importance-- but for us, not for God."

I have offered actual extracts from Einstein’s statements and it seems you have offered nothing on top of lies. Is this lying and deception what gets you hot?

So it seem to me that although you make bold statements, I find it hilarious and so typical of your ilk that you IGNORE the commandments (and so much else) that you claim to adhere to -*** Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.*** You hypocritical moron

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#73942 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You only mentioned google, what about MSN, Wikipedia and even Yahoo?
Clueless, if i may add.
Ok.

Msn, wikipedia and yahoo.

And yes-you ARE clueless.

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#73943 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bullshit!
Translations, are you ignoring that word?
English translation: Beginning and the End.
Greek translation: Alpha and Omega.
Loser!
Say what? What have you been smoking?

Definitions
Alpha
Noun
The first letter of the Greek alphabet, transliterated as “a.”.

Omega
Noun
The twenty-fourth, and last, letter of the Greek alphabet, transliterated as ‘o’

English translation – Alpha, the first letter of the Greek alphabet. Omega, the last letter of the Greek alphabet

The dictionary PROVES you wrong

You hypocritical moron

Or put another way
eta beta pi

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#73944 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Try another shit, but i am assuring your results will be full of shit. Huh!
You can assure me of whatever you like it will make no difference to FACT

You want an explanation without the bother of learning and because that explanation is beyond your simple comprehension you ignore it anyway.

You want that explanation on topix without the bother of learning because you are too ignorant to bother learning.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#73945 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Revelation 21:6
He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.(NIV)
Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.(NIV)
This statement by Jesus is very important to Christianity because it clearly means that Jesus existed before creation and will continue to exist for all eternity. He was with God before anything was created, and therefore, took part in creation. Jesus, like God, was not created. He is eternal. Thus, Alpha and Omega as a Christian symbol signifies the eternal nature of Jesus Christ and God.
No kidding. Yes, it is a symbol. But not a translation as Chuckles the Clown maintains.

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#73946 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
No there is no such thing as evolution.
That's just a very old science myth.
No. The myth is creationism, as the Bible was written by hundreds of authors during the time of mythology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[1]

Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.8 billion years ago. Repeated speciation and the divergence of life can be inferred from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits, or by shared DNA sequences.[2] These homologous traits and sequences are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct evolutionary histories, using both existing species and the fossil record. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction.[3]

Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace were the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is a process that is inferred from three facts about populations: 1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, 2) traits vary among individuals, leading to different rates of survival and reproduction, and 3) trait differences are heritable.[4] Thus, when members of a population die they are replaced by the progeny of parents that were better adapted to survive and reproduce in the environment in which natural selection took place. This process creates and preserves traits that are seemingly fitted for the functional roles they perform.[5] Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.[6]

In the early 20th century, genetics was integrated with Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection through the discipline of population genetics. The importance of natural selection as a cause of evolution was accepted into other branches of biology. Moreover, previously held notions about evolution, such as orthogenesis and "progress" became obsolete.[7] Scientists continue to study various aspects of evolution by forming and testing hypotheses, constructing scientific theories, using observational data, and performing experiments in both the field and the laboratory. Biologists agree that descent with modification is one of the most reliably established facts in science.[8] Discoveries in evolutionary biology have made a significant impact not just within the traditional branches of biology, but also in other academic disciplines (e.g., anthropology and psychology) and on society at large.[9][10]

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It's only for thinking people whose brainstem has attached to his/her brain.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#73947 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike you repeating a lie doesn't make me believe it.
To quote Charles: Likewise!
Langoliers wrote:
There is zero proof for macro evolution.
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
No there is no such thing as evolution.
That's just a very old science myth.

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