Ex-US Rep. Gabby Giffords attends NY gun show

Oct 13, 2013 Full story: Yahoo! 109

A smiling Gabrielle Giffords toured rows of tables loaded with rifles and handguns Sunday in her first visit to a gun show since surviving a 2011 shooting, and pleaded afterward for people to come together to stop gun violence.

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#54 Oct 14, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
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Liberal run Follyhood has sensationalized violence for decades also, combine that with the sexualizing of everything, hip-hop is fun too. Typical irresponsible liberal, blaming others and victimizing themselves, pathetic.
Your fellow quadrupeds are jumping up and down.

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#55 Oct 14, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
Wow. All those guns laying around and NOBODY got shot!!
Imagine that??
Guns don't kill; people do.
How original!
ICE

Batesville, IN

#56 Oct 14, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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More African-Americans should own guns, know how to use them, and have concealed-carry permits.
Next time it'll be YOU, Zimmerman! LOL
Licking Valley or Newark Catholic, Watkins Memorial has a great new football field and track.

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#57 Oct 14, 2013
Jade the juicy Homo wrote:
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They certainly use it more as a political document for votes and money more than anything. People seem to forget most democrats voted FOR DOMA in 1996 and it was signed into law by one of the worlds biggest flamers William Jefferson Clinton.
You're one of the funnier morons on Topix. Come out of the closet. You're losing oxygen.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#59 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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maybe re-tards who need to prove their manhood with guns rather than intellect should move to Afghanistan and join the taliban....no gun control there and you strut can around and jack 0-ff about your god given rights, pray to your imaginary gods, s-hit in hole and fu-ck some sheep, all in one day...
your freedoms are what the courts, legislature and president determine they are not what you pull out of your a-ss
You may want to reconsider your thinking that 'courts, legislature and the president' are where our freedoms come from.

The reality of is that they don't grant us freedom, they place RESTRICTIONS on our freedom.

Other than those restrictions, we are free to, as you say,'pull [freedom] out of your a-ss'
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#62 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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you mean your personal perception of your freedoms pulled from your NRA and hillbilly inbreeding lectures......that's why intellectuals define and administer our freedoms...and we don't rely on inbreds with double digit IQ's...
"...that's why intellectuals define and administer our freedoms..."

Spoken like the true slave you are...congrats...just don't believe you will ever pull the rest of us into the cesspool with you.

Ignorance must really be bliss in order to believe and actually write something like that.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#63 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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you mean your personal perception of your freedoms pulled from your NRA and hillbilly inbreeding lectures......that's why intellectuals define and administer our freedoms...and we don't rely on inbreds with double digit IQ's...
One does not need to attend lectures to KNOW that Americans are free to do as they wish, excepting those freedoms that are LIMITED BY LAW.

The government doesn't GIVE US FREEDOM; they restrict freedom.

We ARE free, except where the government TAKES AWAY freedom.

It is not that difficult to understand.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#64 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
let me guess eleanortard, you also read your bible and it said jesus is coming back real soon right....
you can probably get armedvetard to confirm that .... he is about your mental level.....
Not everbody embraces that fable.

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#66 Oct 15, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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One does not need to attend lectures to KNOW that Americans are free to do as they wish, excepting those freedoms that are LIMITED BY LAW.
The government doesn't GIVE US FREEDOM; they restrict freedom.
We ARE free, except where the government TAKES AWAY freedom.
It is not that difficult to understand.
If the government restricts a "freedom", it is not a freedom. It is usually a protection against antisocial behavior.
With the kind of unconstrained "freedom" you apparently have in mind, a society would last about five minutes.
Deport Obama

East Saint Louis, IL

#67 Oct 15, 2013
What is Obama's favorite vegetable ? Gabby Gifford,,LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOL
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#68 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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we are free except where the government takes away???? WTF...you are another anarchist....neanderthals were free too....wow....another hillbilly moron...
you want to be free, buy an island and isolate yourself....society gives you freedoms... and different societies permit different freedoms...
if they stick you in jail, then they took your freedoms away...
I agree to disagree.

As an American citizen, I am free to do ANYTHING I want to do, except where my actions are LIMITED by law.

I'm not saying that all laws are bad. I'm saying that the government, through the laws it creates, puts LIMITS on the freedom of its people.

Drive a car? Only so fast
Smoke a cigarette? Only outside (in many places)
Fly in a commercial jet? Be screened by government employees
Visit Canada? Get a passport
Earn money? Pay income tax
Have children? Send them to school (or home-school)
Own property? Pay real estate tax
Own a car? Buy insurance
Breathe? Buy Health insurance

Anyone who has a full appreciation of freedom is especially aware of who has the authority to LIMIT that freedom.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#69 Oct 15, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>If the government restricts a "freedom", it is not a freedom. It is usually a protection against antisocial behavior.
With the kind of unconstrained "freedom" you apparently have in mind, a society would last about five minutes.
The argument here is WHERE freedom comes from.

That Satan-dude says the government GIVES freedom. I say the government limits/restricts freedom.

We HAVE freedom already. It doesn't come FROM the government. The government regulates that freedom.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#71 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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free to do anything, except.....
so you are not free to do anything are you?
buy an island and there are no excepts....that is freedom...
The government has been given the authority to put LIMITS on freedom, usually for the greater good.

Nothing wrong with that.

What is wrong is to think that the government is the SOURCE of freedom. It is NOT the source of freedom.

Freedom simply exists, within the LIMITATIONS set by the government.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#72 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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free to do anything, except.....
so you are not free to do anything are you?
buy an island and there are no excepts....that is freedom...
So by saying what you just said, you actually agree that the government is NOT the source of freedom.

If you have freedom on an island WITHOUT government, where did that freedom come from?

Freedom just 'is'.
Louiston

Omaha, NE

#73 Oct 15, 2013
Yes wrote:
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her story reminds you of the irrational violence you enabled.
Odd remark coming from a rape enabler. How many have you personally raped or just held down?

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#76 Oct 15, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
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Deport Israeli duel citizens too. Actually, send most of them 'home'
You want to send them all to Brooklyn ?!
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#77 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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the only time you will have freedom to do "anything you want" is on your own island....
everything else will be courtesy of what the government provides or enables you to have... freedom in the US will be different than freedom in China and different than freedom in Saudi Arabia..
That is a lie. Freedom exists everywhere. The only variable is others ability to infringe on my freedom. The government can pass laws but they are basically for punishment and not to stop my actions. I can exceed the "legal" speed limit and then and only then can the government punish me for my actions but in no way prevented it. If I can evade or protect my freedom from those wanting to infringe on it then no infringement will happen. I can murder or steal or break any "infringement or law" that I wish as long as I can evade or protect myself from the entity wishing to infringe on my actions. Less than %10 of crimes in this country will be enforced by police even less will ever be found guilty of a crime in a court of law and less than %2 will serve time or meet any type of punishment. No one really knows how many "laws" are broken daily that never get reported or even known about. On average "EACH PERSON" in this country will commit at least 3 felonies per day and most will never know it much less be punished for those violations of the "governments laws". That includes those making laws and those enforcing those laws.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#78 Oct 15, 2013
ICE wrote:
<quoted text>Licking Valley or Newark Catholic, Watkins Memorial has a great new football field and track.
Don't pretend you're from here, puke. Even Newark's better than Indiana! LOL
ICE

Batesville, IN

#79 Oct 15, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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Don't pretend you're from here, puke. Even Newark's better than Indiana! LOL
Not pretending dumb ass, I know the area very well.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#81 Oct 15, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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the only time you will have freedom to do "anything you want" is on your own island....
everything else will be courtesy of what the government provides or enables you to have... freedom in the US will be different than freedom in China and different than freedom in Saudi Arabia..
The infringement of my freedom is in direct relation to the entity or governments ability to enforce those infringements. YOU may wish to infringe on my freedom to own guns but YOU can't enforce your will upon me therefore my freedom to own guns exists. Remember even IF a law passes and the government can get get police to enforce that law my freedom still depends on citizens like myself to validate that law and pronounce judgement and punishment against me.(Jury nullification) is when citizens see a law but refuse to enforce it even against the governments will. ALL freedom and rights still reside in the people with the government only able to enforce infringement on freedoms by permission of the people.

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