Gay preacher's son finds solace in Vallejo church

Feb 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Vallejo Times-Herald

Before the Rev. Bayani Rico could take the reins of Ascension Episcopal Church in Vallejo, he asked his interviewers a simple question.

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Also let me make my stance clear. I think that homosexuality is a natural part of the human experiance and that there is nothing wrong with it.

However if your going to hate homosexuals based on your religious doctrine at least hate them the way that religious doctrine states. Also i would suggest not picking and choosing verses either however i know that is to much to ask from some.
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Again it speaks to the act of homosexuality.
A homosexual is someone who has a sexual attraction to a person of the same sex. It doesn't mean that they have engaged in the act.
So if someone steps forward and admits to homosexual acts, they are, let's go s-l-o-w-l-y here for you: participating in an act that is condemned in the bible. Oh wait, I see, you only know Homosexuals who "talk" about homosexuality. Well, that explains a lot.

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So if someone steps forward and admits to homosexual acts, they are, let's go s-l-o-w-l-y here for you: participating in an act that is condemned in the bible. Oh wait, I see, you only know Homosexuals who "talk" about homosexuality. Well, that explains a lot.
gee bible biatch... i bet you ignore leviticus when it says you can't sleep in the bed with one of us females in heat... helll i bet you even have red wings to prove your sin... so stfu

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Also let me make my stance clear. I think that homosexuality is a natural part of the human experiance and that there is nothing wrong with it.
However if your going to hate homosexuals based on your religious doctrine at least hate them the way that religious doctrine states. Also i would suggest not picking and choosing verses either however i know that is to much to ask from some.
"What the Bible forbids is acts of lust, rape, idolatry, violation of religious purity obligations, or pederasty, but no condemnation of homosexuality in relationships of mutual respect and love. "On the other hand, the Bible pointedly celebrates instances of same-sex emotional intimacy, a fact often overlooked by fearful homophobic readers." (James B. Nelson, Professor of Christian Ethics, United Theological Seminary)

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"If Jesus ever said anything about homosexuality, it is not recorded in the Bible, even mistranslated. He did, however, speak extensively on God's unconditional love. Yet instead of dwelling on biblical love, Christians have historically been more concerned with obscure passages of Levitical cleanliness codes and Paul's misunderstood comments in Romans. Instead of focusing on the incredible injustice and hatred demonstrated by Christians and others, tying to deny homosexuals even basic civil rights, people appear more concerned with the specific homosexual acts between consenting adults who are naturally have a homosexual orientation. As James B. Nelson notes, the Bible more clearly advocates a "love ethic" rather than a "sex ethic."

I Cor 6:9, no way refers to homosexuality. The original Greek word often quoted as sexual immorality, Paul used was "porneia" which means "a harlot for hire". In Corinth in the temples of Venus, the principal deity of Corinth, where Christians went to worship, a thousand public prostitutes were kept at public expense to glorify and act as surrogates for the fertility Gods. This sex with the pagan Gods is what Paul was talking about - fornication is an admitted mistranslation and has nothing to do with gays or singles sex. This rendering reflected the bias of the translators rather than an accurate translation of Paul's words to a culture of 2000 years ago worshipping pagan sex gods.

Romans 1:26-27 mentions homosexual acts performed by people who are clearly described as heterosexual. The men in the NT patriarchal culture exerted dominance not only over women, but over younger males as well. The nature of homosexual acts in the Bible are so very different from what we know as homosexuality today that the passages have no application to today's homosexuality. Such practices as in NT times simply no longer exist. Alleged references to homosexuality in I Corinthians and I Timothy are the inventions of anti-gay translators. They are not in the original Greek texts." (Rev. Dr. Mel White)

The word "homosexual" wasn't even invented until 1869. When you see it in the bible, you should know it is a modern mistranslation and misinterpretation of the original texts.
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ALL of you are liars and deliberately misquoting the OT & NT Scriptures. Sexual relations are strictly between a man and a woman ONLY. No exceptions.

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Anonymous wrote:
ALL of you are liars and deliberately misquoting the OT & NT Scriptures. Sexual relations are strictly between a man and a woman ONLY. No exceptions.
According to the three little pigs.. your a morazz...

See how silly basing your life off of a mythical fairytale makes you sound dumb

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This man seems like a concerned, dedicated and supportive parent.

Sounds like pastor material to me.
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I don't know for sure what the Bible says on the subject, and it doesn't matter anyway. The image of another man's hairy back door is not something NORMAL men dream and besides being repulsive is against Natures Laws. Accepting homosexuality doesn't mean it's normal or healthy; keep it in the closet where it belongs.

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Not equal you kind of missed my point there. I was basically saying that if they are going to condemn someone they should at least condemn them for what the bible says. Some do interpret the bible to say that homosexual sex at least male on male is a sin.

Now do i believe this personally no. But no where in the bible does it say homosexuality is wrong. It can be interpreted to say the act is. It cant be interpreted to say being homosexual is.

FYI your completely off my point. I'm saying if your going to use your religion to condemn then condemn the act not the person.

And for the record I know alot of virgin homosexual people.

Once again Its not that i think homosexual acts are wrong I dont. However I want people who use religion to justify hatred or condemnation to be consistent. I would also like them to condemn pork and shellfish but i dont see that happening.
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<quoted text>gee bible biatch... i bet you ignore leviticus when it says you can't sleep in the bed with one of us females in heat... helll i bet you even have red wings to prove your sin... so stfu
Your stupid is showing...and I bet it does every time you can't refute the truth. Poor, poor you.

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THIS post deserves lemons.

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RevKen wrote:
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The writer of the above post goes off the track in the very first sentence.
Please, take note.

In the very first sentence, the writer made the assumption that homosexuals - by their very homosexuality - are sinning. Recall that Jesus defined adultery as a sin and determined that the sin had occurred by the person who had simply harbored the desire to commit adultery.

I disagree with the assumption, however subtly implied, that homosexuality can be equated in any way with adultery or as any sin. Again, I make the statement that he goes off track - in a very subtle manner, sort of slipping it in under the radar of most readers. Sexual obsession and unbridled carnality in any sexual orientation is another matter, entirely.

I do not believe that Jesus held any adverse view toward homosexuality. In fact, just the opposite.

He said, "Suffer the little children to come to me. For such are ..."

I do believe that he fully knew that an open endorsement of same-sex relationship would not have been regarded at the time as anything less than openly heretical. Instead, he found other, more effective, ways to showcase Pharisaic iniquity and misguided applications of the Law. Therefore, considering the message and effort that he was pre-ordained to impart, he chose to make his positions in such issues known at that time only to those who could understand.

But, for anyone who really wants to understand, the quote above is enough.

Rev. Ken

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