Airplanes Spraying San jose CA
aerosol shield

Victoria, Canada

#1010 Apr 14, 2010
Because of where you worked you might understand the implications of the following as I was reading more on atmospheric turbulence

The article and its subtitles are self evident. They are declassified. The implications of the aerosols in defending us are obvious. Doesnt mean I approve of the trails but they appear to have multiple purposes, I still worry about their side effects on my honeybees, my Mums breathing problems etc. When they bomb us really badly I have told the met where I worked how bad the effects were on everybody around here and they were very concerned but are not allowed to comment on it in the media

http://www.stormingmedia.us/42/4258/A425873.h...
correction

Victoria, Canada

#1011 Apr 14, 2010
Hi Roz
disappointing news
upon further reading the WWII Victory Garden book
the BBC had inserted and comingled photos reinacting certain people working in Victory gardens
so the photo I thought was WWII evidence of radar aersol Xs in the background was most likely taken in 1992 or 1993 when the book was published

however watching a lot of Hollywood movies made in the 70s and 80s the trails were evident especially over Los Angeles in the latter half of the 1980s

just havent quite nailed the year they started

we first noticed them in our area in the late 90s as I previously mentioned

The other textbook on Extreme Weather events has a series of recent satellite images
showing dust storms blowing over us from China and over you from North Africa

As mentioned before California leads the way in North America on air quality research because of poor air quality over Los Angeles which is surrounded by mountains and ocean offshore breezes. They're doing a lot of very small aerosol research in the atmosphere. They keep trying to study smaller and smaller molecules to identify exactly what we are receiving from Asia
Hawaii started the aerosol observatory work because of their remote location in the middle of the Pacific Ocean but that is only a couple of decades of data

I think the book on Extreme Weather is more useful to us than the WWII Victory Garden book UNLESS you can use the second book for sources of WWII aerial photos of the sky. They quote their sources. I successfully obtained a print from the WWII photo negative originals, in our nation's capital at one of our national museums based there, after I recognized my spouses' Aunt whom I cared for as she was working on a deHavilland Mosquito aircraft, in an aviation history book which showed women working for the war effort.

The current aerosols are very small apparently, at the molecule level and I think they are more intended to work with Lidar and other newer detectors that they're using to characterize atmospheric properties and behaviour

p.s. I am also a ghost of a former facility as you and your husband are. My ex phones me once in awhile when he is lonely but I reminded him recently that most of our colleagues from those interesting days are gone now, we are the living ghosts now. It is nice to find someone who understands what we are talking about. I found a few here in my community, a Legion and professional retirement association where there are people like us to relate to. A lot of the ones working now in these fields are too busy trying to find the funding grants in order to keep going so they are no fund to talk to because they are all politics and superdefensive if they think you know as much or more than they do.

I will check in tomorrow. Good conversation today, chow
iceland volcanic ash

Victoria, Canada

#1012 Apr 15, 2010
Hi Roz
How is your air quality and visiblity where you are since the media announced an Icelandic volcano's ash has grounded most European aircraft?

I found one satellite image of the ash cloud track. Depending on what time the image was taken it looked like most of it was heading towards Norway, north of Great Britain

Your Canadian friend
iceland volcanic ash

Victoria, Canada

#1013 Apr 15, 2010
European satellite image is better than our NASA image
http://www.esa.int/esaEO/SEMFYR9MT7G_planet_0...
European aersol research

Victoria, Canada

#1014 Apr 15, 2010
Legalities of air quality and possibly aerosol related exposures in the -->VIP--> flagged article appearing half way down this email

a) Present aerosol research in your area
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/browse/jar/24/2/_...
download the following PDF file to see what is happening with aerosol measurement in your area

article titled
EUSAAR - An Unprecedented Network of Aerosol Observation in Europe pages 78-83
By Sabine PHILIPPIN, Paolo LAJ, Jean-Philippe PUTAUD, Alfred WIEDENSOHLER, Gerrit De LEEUW, Ann Mari FJAERAA, Ulrich PLATT, Urs BALTENSPERGER and Markus FIEBIG Release Date: June 24, 2009[Abstract][PDF (567K)]

Also, look below at my VIP flag Roz. You may find some legal teeth you can use or figure out

http://www.eusaar.net/index.cfm
Aerosol research network occurring in your area

The scientific publications are a good read

The 11 sites involved included NOAA which is related to NASA
http://www.eusaar.net/files/activities/transn...

http://www.eusaar.net/files/Data/data.cfm

http://www.eusaar.net/files/Publications/Publ...

b)-->>VIP-->> Roz, this might be useful to you
Querol, X., Alastuey, A., Moreno, T., Viana, M.(2009).
New Directions: Legislative considerations for controlling exposure to atmospheric aerosols in rural areas. Atmospheric Science Perspectives Special Series, Atm. Env. 42, 8979–8984.


Another scientific paper worth reading summarizing CLACE6 experiment:
Spectral analysis results showing much of what molecules are in the atmosphere
http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/9/1537...
no Ba nor Al monitoring

Victoria, Canada

#1015 Apr 15, 2010
Interesting baseline study of Europe a few years ago
in the Journal of Atmospheric Chemistry and Physicis

http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/9/2597/2009/ac...
titled
Elemental content of PM2.5 aerosol particles collected in G¨oteborg
during the G¨ote-2005 campaign in February 2005

page 2600 details what atmospheric chemical elements were being monitored.
useful papers

Victoria, Canada

#1018 Apr 15, 2010
Roz

this short series of up to date papers are very useful

http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/special_issue1...
dearth of info

Victoria, Canada

#1019 Apr 15, 2010
Roz here is a dearth of sources for information, data, health and safety legislation etc

http://www.aaar.org/index2.cfm...
at website of
American Association for Aerosol Research

it includes European sites too
Australian research

Victoria, Canada

#1020 Apr 15, 2010
they do a lot of excellent environmental research

http://www.ilaqh.qut.edu.au/Misc/Publicat.htm
some excellent science on particle size and our health
jackpot Ba Al data

Victoria, Canada

#1021 Apr 16, 2010
Roz I found some genuine Aluminum and barium air quality
hepa results at

http://www.speak.ca/forum/view_topic.php...
Speak.ca Forums > Conspiracies > Chemtrails > WHY ARE THEY SPRAYING OUR SKIES?

Some other interesting finds
google results for canister and "atmospheric testing"

this lady is worth watching, she is sticking her neck out
http://newyorkskywatch.com/rosalind-peterson-...
transcript about manmade clouds and atmospheric testing at a 2007 Climate Change conference

This lady runs a very interesting site

more on a recent experiment called CARE
that is nailing a huge area of our Pacific Northwest
at
http://lornakismet.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/u...

According to this article:“…A rocket experiment set to launch Tuesday aims to create artificial clouds at the outermost layers of Earth’s atmosphere. The project, called the Charged Aerosol Release Experiment (CARE)…

”This is really essentially at the boundary of space,” said Wayne Scales, a scientist at Virginia Tech who will…study the physics of the artificial dust cloud as it’s released…CARE is slated to launch Tuesday between 7:30 and 7:57 p.m. EDT (2330 and 2357 GMT) from NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia….”

“…CARE will release its (aluminum oxide)(2), dust particles a bit higher than that, then let them settle back down to a lower altitude.”What the CARE experiment hopes to do is to create an artificial dust layer,” Professor Scales told SPACE.com .“Hopefully it’s a creation in a controlled sense, which will allow scientists to study different aspects of it, the turbulence generated on the inside, the distribution of dust particles and such.”

CARE is a project of the Naval Research Laboratory and the Department of Defense Space Test Program. The spacecraft will launch aboard a NASA four-stage Black Brant XII suborbital sounding rocket…Researchers will track the CARE dust cloud for days or even months to study its behavior and development over time…If CARE cannot launch Tuesday, the team can try again between Sept. 16 and Sept. 20, 2009…”

Our city is celebrating 100 years as Canadas western naval port
defense research establishment pacific is one lab I worked at
really recent research

Victoria, Canada

#1022 Apr 16, 2010
Roz
Heres the baby with the bathwater

even as they denied geoengineering last week at a local public meeting

http://stm.arm.gov/2009/presentations/0331/9_...

Indirect & Semi-Direct Aerosol Campaign Cloud Observations: A new look at arctic clouds

found this by googling arm and isdac
1969 releases

Victoria, Canada

#1023 Apr 17, 2010
http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai...
Accession Number : AD0724099

Title : Characteristics of Upper Atmosphere Barium, Trimethylaluminum, Diborane and Lithium Releases, 1969.
Descriptive Note : Air Force surveys in geophysics,
Corporate Author : AIR FORCE CAMBRIDGE RESEARCH LABS L G HANSCOM FIELD MASS
Personal Author(s): Vickery,William K.
Report Date : 26 OCT 1970
Pagination or Media Count : 39
Abstract : The report summarizes the flight and engineering aspects of rocket launches made by the Chemical Physics Branch (USAF Project 7635) during the calendar year 1969, inclusive of TMA vapor release system development flights since 1966, for the purpose of releasing chemicals in the atmosphere at high altitudes. Chemical releases provide means for modification of the upper atmosphere, as well as data on atmospheric dynamics and ionospheric properties from which quantitative understanding of increasing accuracy is derived. Results of this research are relevant to the solution of current Air Force problems, such as the precise prediction of the motion of operational satellites and nuclear debris, or the assessment of the effects of solar bursts and nuclear detonations on the propagation of electromagnetic waves through the ionosphere. The four basic experimental release systems, barium, trimethylaluminum, diborane, and lithium, are designated as individual sections. In addition, information is included regarding new instrumentation tested in some of the flights, in order to improve the acquisition capability of the tracking radar and to transmit vehicle and payload operational data.(Author)
Descriptors :(*UPPER ATMOSPHERE,*ATMOSPHERIC SOUNDING), IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCES, SOLAR DISTURBANCES, NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS, SOUNDING ROCKETS, BARIUM, LITHIUM, DIBORANES, TABLES(DATA)
Subject Categories : ATMOSPHERIC PHYSICS
Distribution Statement : APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE

Search DTIC's Public STINET for similiar documents.

Members of the public may purchase hardcopy documents from the National Technical Information Service.
SPARC program

Victoria, Canada

#1024 Apr 17, 2010
http://www.atmosp.physics.utoronto.ca/SPARC/S...
SPARC
STRATOSPHERIC PROCESSES AND THEIR ROLE IN CLIMATE
A Project of the World Climate Research Programme

at least pages 5 and 12 discuss deliberate atmospheric modification
SPARC pg 22

Victoria, Canada

#1025 Apr 17, 2010
particularly read page 22

injection and monitoring of ULTRA fine ice particles
cospar and sparc

Victoria, Canada

#1026 Apr 17, 2010
international programs on atmospheric reearch
combined with climate change issues

just celebrating their 50th year of atmospheric testing and modelling
Roz Rayner-Rix

Reading, UK

#1027 Apr 18, 2010
The Air quality here seems to be OK. I can see a heavy 'mist' on the horizon, doesn't look too bad right now. However I just found this which does not look too good.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7598668/Peo...
Whether this is scaremongering or not who knows.

To be honest I have been really enjoying the sunshine with no chemtrails whatsoever. Personally I hope all the spray equipment gets totally ruined. However that is just wishful thinking...

It will be nearly impossible to get people to stay indoors the way the weather is.

Do you think the volcanic eruption has anything to do with HAARP? I think many others do. Along with the many recent earthquakes.

I read that it was normal to have maybe 30 earthquakes in California at this time of the year and that there have so far been 70. People are now thinking that the big one is on the way...

Well seeing as HAARP has a billion volts at its disposal and found 26 oil fields with just 300 volts...

No wonder Obama wants to get rid of nuclear weapons, they are obsolete now.

Incidently I found up to 25 similar arrays, then there are the GWEN Towers. All the ELF waves. What are we supposed to do?
Trevor

Indio, CA

#1028 Apr 18, 2010
HomeSlice wrote:
<quoted text>
the sky is falling the sky is falling!
google anything and you'll get a million results. Half of these chemtrail people do not have sources and it's just a theory. i want hard evidence.
god i pray you never research into the macarthur maze...it was a conspiracy to stop commuters and it was actually a UFO attack! or pull a rosie with the WTC 7 theory that fire cant melt metal!
Hey- please before you go out there trying to belittle 6000 architects and structural engineers who have proven with the laws of physics that fire will not melt steel....you said metal.....get your facts straight before you come out and sound like an idiot. Go watch "Core of Corruption" and come back and tell me what you think. It's based on actual network footage. I dare you to watch it.
volcanic ash

Victoria, Canada

#1029 Apr 19, 2010
Roz
I can not comment on what haarp is capable of regarding geophyics

The good news is electronics have always been capable of being jammed since we started using electricity.

Front page of our Globe and Mail today, a fellow in London England
comment how clear the sky and how quiet it is, quote like a country village, while he sits outside for a coffee, because the jets are not flying over head every couple of minutes

I am expecting to see the volcanic ash reaching us soon, even if thinly distributed, because it has already passed over Russia

Be interesting to see if our Northern Hemispheres weather cools off slightly and by how much, as Pinutabo and other volcanoes have caused in the past. Means no need for the trails, as the ash is taking care will reduce reservoir evaporation rates etc.

I feel that the extensive media communications, especially TV and Internet, have made us far more aware of every, significant natural event around the globe.

But our recorded record of this scale of events is not that good, only the last couple of thousand years at best. Rather we have long term records of the really big events, based on geology. So I can not comment on the frequency or escalation of events right now.

My area does sit on some 9.0 and greater fault lines
running from BC down to California, which reoccur every few hundred years with a forecasted 60 foot high tsunami wave, that is enough to keep at the back on ones mind. Our last really bad one was in 1964 on Easter Sunday, its epcicenter was in Alaska, even though it nailed Port Alberni just north of here because of the fjord effect.

Your area has been affected by Icelands volcanoes before apparently leading to major cold spells and crop losses.

So we each are in a higher risk area.

I hark back to the Girl Guide Be Prepared motto and my Emergency Preparedness training. China keeps suffering horrendous earthquakes, southeast Asia monsoon floods. Perspective is very important. Remember what millions survived during WWII, they're still alive thru that and the 1920s Depression. Resilience is the key word

another subject: more about aluminum use in the garden
The Truth About Garden Remedies, What Works and What Doesn't and Why by Jeff Gillman
page 60 uses of aluminum sulfate, iron sulfate and sulfur to put more acid in alkaline soils
ISBN-13:978-0-88192-748-1 published 2006 bu Timber Press Inc. in Portland, Oregon U.S.A.

also includes sections on Biostimulants, natural types of insecticides and fungicides and herbicides and parasitic bug methods
aerosls and volcanic ash

Victoria, Canada

#1030 Apr 19, 2010
Useful science on atmospheric aerosols, starting with current volcanic ash article

http://www.physorg.com/news190643842.html

http://www.physorg.com/tags/aerosols/
particle size and effect

Victoria, Canada

#1031 Apr 19, 2010
1980 Mount St Helens blew up just across from us
I thought it was our military academy firing their
graduation cannon salute but this occurred on a Sunday
morning and got me out of bed

here is an interesting article about particle sizes and effects

(The smaller the particle the deeper it can penetrate our lungs)

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/ash/properties.html...

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