#49 May 18, 2007
Massive chemtrails today, over alum rock hills, then about 6:45 two over south san jose, they did a good criss cross southern sky, and a crazy 90 degree turn,
I wish topix wouldn't delete my links I have videos
stop spraying the sky!!!(I doubt they listen but I have to request)
trying to breathe
#50 May 21, 2007
a lot of spraying over the weekend, good thing I didn't wash my car
Since: Apr 07
#51 May 22, 2007
omg it must not be trusted because i guess it belongs to the man right?
and all trusted science must be thrown out because it's taught by the "man".
when you think of conspiracies it's easy to think everything is the "man" if it doesnt fit your view.
but the truth is, you can inspect a random airplane and not find any "sprayers". You can buy your own private jet an create contrails, you can create it under repeatable conditions. And there are many many many pilots...yet not a one confirmable source has brought up anything about "chemtrails". I've found a supposed "pilot" who said stuff about chemtrails but the site is old and list nothing. It's easy to do a hoax, and very hard to supress something real if it was this out in the open.
there are hundreds of pilots who fly jumbo jets around the world, and contrails happen around the world since WWII. Think about it, all the world's governments are working together on a conspiracy? They can't even agree on simple things let alone that.
And scientist have known about persistant contrails, it's not new. Ice takes a while to melt, it's about -40c up there. Ice melts at anything over 0c, so the ice particles disperse and as they sink lower in the atomosphere they melt and disappate.
Since: Apr 07
#52 May 22, 2007
it's called pollen, goto UC Davis and come back. You'll be covered in yellow dust and when it gets wet it becomes slime.
as for green slime on the sidewalk. 99 chance it's mold and algae
#53 May 22, 2007
homeslice you make me laugh, I like your reasons they are so close I can see how you can think they are the reasons, so let me shed some light on them
you use the term "the man" so then you agree he exists, that is a start
yes science is a controlled institution, controlled by reputation and who is going to hire a crazy chemtrail seeing scientist haha, no one, keep your mouth shut and keep getting paid
I have not said conspiracy but you have, so you admit one exists,
I agree contrails exist, but they don't spread out and form haze, your telling me ice can spread out and not melt and form cloud cover, hahahahahahahaaha, so some days we have a ceiling of ice, hahahah(like I said you funny)
now for the governments of the world, that was hilarious, hahhahaha, theya re working together who said that, and whoever did has a lot of faith in humans working together, hahahaha,
the truth is it must be a small faction of the wealthy, lets be truthful governments don't run anything, it is the wealth of the world that rules not an so-called elected government,
hahahaha now for your pollen I almost forgot you added pollen, hahahahahahah
you are hilarious, well if you will please take a look at the new pollen reports for the season, you will see that the average count is around 500, and well this year we have it up around 5000, must be because of the vacationing bees, hahahahah
well homeslice I don't think anything I have said is too far fetched, you think there contrails thats good, keep picking up the animals, living in the dark
oh by the way, upper respirtory illness is the 3rd cause of death in the world, interesting huh?
#54 May 22, 2007
that is my favorite website, hahahaa
if contrails have been around so long why did they only construct this site on October 19, 2006 9:26:42 AM
you can look to see when it was built, I get better late than never hahahahaha
southern sky san jose, a "contrail" hahahhaa, ice particles stretching over 20 miles, hahahahahha,
I will look to see if there is more ice up there, I wonder if I launch an ice cube from my roof, will it stay up there and turn into a cloud, hahahahahaha
what do you think homeslice?
#55 May 22, 2007
sorry I guess better late than never,
if they were contrails from the normal traffic from the 3 major airports, why is there only 1 in the sky, has only one plane taken off today,
they are losing money if only one plane is up there, hahahahaaha
#56 May 22, 2007
First time I noticed spray planes was 1998 while working in garden because one flew so low overhead that spray stinger was clearly visible by naked eye & could clearly see individual puffs as they were emitted. Timed the dispersion rate of each puff because the stuff just hung in the air overhead.
Phoned military, weather service etc.,to not fly so low over us and stop spraying us without informing public so we could take cover beforehand as was done for gypsy moth spraying in early early 90s.
Response from Canadian authority was that Canadian scientific authorities could do nothing about current type of spraying as it was agreed upon from our Prime Minister's office, in otherwords an International Joint agreement.
So our soverignty of our national air space was handed to your country without consulting Canadian taxpayers first. That's one reason it's a Civil Rights issue especially when total media blackout is maintained for years in our country regarding this issue. We should be forewarned so citizens with breathing problems can take cover. Recently our weatherservice has started to forecast "bad pollution" days so people with susceptible breathing problems stay indoors.
About 2 years ago in our local newspaper it was announced that Canadian weather service was to be handed over to US Weather service, so who's country am I living in now, is another issue?
Cloud seeding has been used for years to generate snow pack in coastal mountains to later generate runoff for hydro generation which USA benefits from under International Treaties such as the Columbia River Treaty.
More to the point business partner helping me during first low level spraying, I buried recently after dying from mysterious lung disease that is becoming more commmon. Also, pneumo cryptococcus sporidium has been killing people and outdoor animals in last several years locally which is normally an Australian problem. How did it get here?
Many mysterious flu like symptoms mixing killing healthy people, doctors overwhelmed, beginning to really worry, don't understand source of problem yet.
Also seeing a lot of death by pulmonary fibrosis. Wondering if this is because the blanketing produced is getting thicker and thicker.
The spray patterns can be individual, multiple, or multilayered blanketing. Latest blanketing appears to be getting much thicker. Current spraying could be used to slow down melting of snow pack thus reducing flooding of residential areas in low lying areas snd maintaining snow pack for drinking needs until next fall's precipitation.
The odd clear days free of heavy spraying are noticeably hotter. Spraying is promoted as reducing evaporation in drinking water lake sources.
Major local drinking water supplies just been shutdown due to algae blooms, general public now aware yet.
Wonder if spraying contributed to this or are they going to now add antifungicides into the spray cocktail injecting it into our drinking water based on previous comments in this disscusion site.
Not necessarily just for protecting us from ozone hole which opens and closes and varies in size with each opening.
Fluxing of the earth's magnetic lines has recently been found to open big holes in Norther Hemisphere's magnetic field giving us full space radiation especially from recent solar flares as sun's magnetic poles flipped recently. Spray blanket may shield us from said radiation.
Also a lot of extreme hawaiian type rain events right now, out of character, causing flooding and blowing out all habitat work in salmon bearing creeks. Very disappointing as government's left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing.
Question, is manmade blanket doing more harm than good, if even original intentions may have been good?
Suggestion has been to add cocktail into ALL
commericial aircraft flights, not just specific aircraft as mentioned below
end of observations to date
Since: Apr 07
#57 May 22, 2007
i give up believe in your lies and i will believe in mine.
lets let this die already, if you think theres a conspiracy there is. I can't disprove it more then you can convince me of one.
let this die already before the black helicopters come and take one of us away
#58 May 22, 2007
that is your goal for this thread to die,
it and the chemtrails will be here, hahaha, if your goal was to stop the conversation you are more funny that I first thought, haha
don't give up, it is fun to see what you say,
we need the group mind
when they stop their intervention so will we
see you tomorrow, hahahahahaha
#59 May 22, 2007
man I am still laughing hahahahahahahahaha
#60 May 23, 2007
sprayers about to criss cross, time 1:51pm, san jose ca,
one is spraying from the west to the east and one is from the east to the west, spreading out into a haze,
kind of has dripping spots interesting to see spread out, perhaps they think it is art
they need to come down and wash my car!
#61 May 23, 2007
What are you or your neighbours doing to cope with any fallout from this spraying? The spray fallout is landing on all biological entities: humans, plants, birds, bees, lakes for drinking water.
Dr Teller, physicist and father of the Bomb, proposed it. Weather/atmospheric research is done mostly by physicists and chemists. This spraying plan does not seem to have included any biologists.
Do we have any outdoors people, keen gardeners, volunteers in habitat restoration, or scientifically trained people in this discussion who are noticing changes in their natural surroundings since the spraying started? Are you making any practical changes in your gardens etc to cope with this, it would be helpful to exchange this information until the spraying stops.
Have you heard our local awarding winning journalist Will Thomas' efforts to inform North Americans & still our Governments remain silent. He's been interviewed on Art Bell over the years.
Since: Apr 07
#62 May 23, 2007
im reverse tracking all your IP addresses and sending this to the government. Expect massive chemtrails over your houses, you will submit...whither you like it or not. either that...or you can try to not breathe or install HEPA filters into your home.
the government will find you, you're on the internet afterall. And you know the truth!
#63 May 24, 2007
well our plants have seen better days, not much you can do, when it has become our atmosphere, spraying at the rate and how long it has been known of, we can safely say it is everywhere,
one person has posted his military friend said one heavy days try not to go out, take showers if you do, but of course he couldnt say to much more, as always
I havn't heard of Will Thomas but I will check him out, here in america most are preoccupied with earnings (some of which are essential) and blind pride, as though our benevolent government would never do any harm to us, or our children(Iraq war over 3000 of our loved ones)
we try and filter our water, and take footage, try to enjoy the skies as the clouds form
good to hear our friends above are clear minded,
#64 May 24, 2007
two planes flying from moffet directions, spraying!!!!!!!!!!
looks like two missiles fly away,
west sky, one heading south the other heading more south east,
homeslice either you are a child with nothing to do or you have to much time on your hands and feel threatening this post give you purpose no one fears your nonsense
#65 May 24, 2007
FYI a radio interview Tuesday May 22nd
A Clifford Carnicom, I'm not yet familiar with, has a new DVD on the spraying. It sounds like a full historical/scientific review of the campaign for those just looking into the issue.
A major concern, of which Carnicom refers to, are the climbing numbers of respiratory ailments due to particulates. Your state leads in efforts to manage/mitigate air pollution sources however grassroots efforts make a difference too.
Mine & another nearby neighbourbood sued our provincial government because our homes were inundated with diesel particulates from adjacent shipping which used unfiltered dirty sulphourous diesel.
Subsequently our Federal Government widely publicized scientific evidence that yes living within one mile of diesel particulates is very harmful to our health.
Our Fed Govt now publicizes that ships are to use clean diesel within x number of miles of our cities. We wanted ship stack emissions filtered at source. Also, extensive remediation was done to an elementtary school to protect the children from continuoius daily 8 hour exposure.
Our lungs, thus our blood, are affected depending on the size of the particulate we inhale. Carnicom refers to submicron fibers in the spray fallout which resemble filaments of Morgellons Disease. I haven't looked up this ailment yet. I wonder, are the spraying planners/managers monitoring illness data for new correlations arising due to spray fallout? If so, our physicians should have be informed so they can provide adequate medical care for us. It seems this is not the case to date.
Another note, for the loss of honey bee pollinization our region has turned to Mason bees.
Keep your chin up, you live in a very nice area.
#66 May 24, 2007
it sounds like canada knows whats going on, I agree a beautiful place here in san jose, I grew up here and remember how it used to look, hence my frustration,
Carnicom is a good guy, his first dvd was very well done, had all the info he could muster to date, very informed,
Aersol Crimes is the name of it! its on google
san jose has grown out of control, not wquite san francisco but we are getting there, how quickly it happens, once we got an industry everyone came here, now we do animations and movies so this place can only get crazier, I for one miss the old pace, late 80's we had the technology, but still sound minds, who knows GWEN towers may be working now!
Morgellons is scorned by doctors as a delusion here, you can be commited if you claim you have it, funny stuff, skin problems are on the rise, but doctors are quick for a topical cream, and to label it something they know, even if the symptoms are new and different from anything known, more of we can't treat it just yet so here, it must be this, healthcare is a business here, to the fullest
I miss the bees, but the birds are looking scarce as well, went to the beach today, a lot of spraying in santa cruz, 4 planes covering downtown, pretty low to, I was able to get some good pics,
I will be visiting canada soon, south of calgary anything notable down there, thanks for the info I will listen to the interview always looking for new info, canircom is pretty thorough, he lives in new mexico he moved there from here, thanks again
#67 May 25, 2007
low lying haze throughout san jose, a brown type of color to it, from about 2miles,
here are important things to search
HAARP, FEMA camps, GWEN towers, Verichip,
for chemtrails: clifford carnicom, NOAA, weather modification application,
I love my city and despise you who try to destroy it, and my neighbors
#68 May 25, 2007
Spraying Seattle, Port Angeles, Vancouver, Victoria, trapping air pollution. Rust red colour at sea level is Nitrous oxides. Inadvertently camped next to your state's Air Quality manager, chatted. Coastline Wash. to Calif. border saw NOxs layer offshore during early 90s camping trip, shocked at extent of coverage, assumed source was ships' bunker fuel. Today, due to spraying barely see offshore Islands, American Mt Baker or mountain range above Port Angeles. Ground level manmade haze settling so thick fog horns on this morning. PROBLEM: surrounding mountains trap haze on us as for you.TIP: Haze lessens inland but spraying interior cities too-so backoff from cities. Hope climate models lead to end of spraying soon. Gut says keep positive thoughts, keep healthy, help everyone to devise/find cleaner ways to do things.
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