Lady Anna

Western Springs, IL

#102 Sep 8, 2010
This was a horrid and dastardly crime! This story was aired only this morning on an episode on Investigative Discovery channel called "Scene of the Crime".

As a Criminal Justice major, such crimes as are so very many, touch me deeply. This crime was beyond hideous in nature as Suzanne (as any of us)was simply sitting there in her kitchen drinking coffee as her killer knocked on her door and she simply answered the door in response to furniture she was selling in an local advertisement. This case is frightening and the it took many years to solve this crime.

I cannot begin to understand why this killer attacked her three year old son. Thank goodness this garbage was caught. This was an attempted rape crime and Lucas found her son a nusance during this crime.

This criminal is still alive and is sitting there wasting the air that he is breathing and he is the absorbant of the so called "tax payers" brigade of complaints. This is what we all pay into for such criminals who go and attack any person in the privacy of their home.

This individual should be executed. He had no care of an innocent child and his mother and would have continued such crimes across the nation based on his innocuous appearance and ability to "blend in" society.

It should act as a deterrent against any fiend who even thinks that this is an option against man kind. What happened to the Clairmont Killer? It is what SHOULD have happened to the Clairmont killer. He SHOULD be no more. This comment is for my FaceBook wall for those who aren't familar with this case. This case has haunted me for a very long time as it occurred the very date and year that my sibling was born. SO yes, this is just as personal.
someone

AOL

#103 Sep 9, 2010
Lady Anna wrote:
This was a horrid and dastardly crime! This story was aired only this morning on an episode on Investigative Discovery channel called "Scene of the Crime".
As a Criminal Justice major, such crimes as are so very many, touch me deeply. This crime was beyond hideous in nature as Suzanne (as any of us)was simply sitting there in her kitchen drinking coffee as her killer knocked on her door and she simply answered the door in response to furniture she was selling in an local advertisement. This case is frightening and the it took many years to solve this crime.
I cannot begin to understand why this killer attacked her three year old son. Thank goodness this garbage was caught. This was an attempted rape crime and Lucas found her son a nusance during this crime.
This criminal is still alive and is sitting there wasting the air that he is breathing and he is the absorbant of the so called "tax payers" brigade of complaints. This is what we all pay into for such criminals who go and attack any person in the privacy of their home.
This individual should be executed. He had no care of an innocent child and his mother and would have continued such crimes across the nation based on his innocuous appearance and ability to "blend in" society.
It should act as a deterrent against any fiend who even thinks that this is an option against man kind. What happened to the Clairmont Killer? It is what SHOULD have happened to the Clairmont killer. He SHOULD be no more. This comment is for my FaceBook wall for those who aren't familar with this case. This case has haunted me for a very long time as it occurred the very date and year that my sibling was born. SO yes, this is just as personal.
which episode this this, the title of the show? I know it's Scene of the Crime. I'd like to know when it's on next so I can catch it. thanks.
sgulihur

Santee, CA

#105 Oct 4, 2010
Neighbor wrote:
Back around 1990 Christopher Box and Manuel Flores clubbed and slashed several people to death including children in a house on Clairemont Mesa Blvd in Clairemont. I think they were convicted and received relatively short sentences. I didn't know any of the victims or criminals but lived very nearby at the time. Whatever happened to these two?
Their crimes took place about the same time that Cleophus Prince jr raped and killed 6 women in the Clairemont area. I think he is on death row but what about these other guys?
I went to High school with both Chris and Manuel. They were both popular guys. They both liked to smoke weed and party. Didnt know of course they were violent. I did not know the victims, however I did meet and become friends with Aprils husband Mike Ross. He was completely distraught, even years after... the day of the murders was the 3 yr olds actual Birthday. very sad and tragic!
Anthony Rodrigues

Mount Laguna, CA

#106 Oct 25, 2010
I attended CHS during the 86 - 87 if I remember right.... Chris Box and Miguel did there damage either in 86 - 87 year. What is weird is the fact that I went to a party up in Clairemont and it so happened to be the people who were slain. I did not know them and met them for the first time during the party. I remember playing quick hands with Chris Box but that was about it with our interaction.
Anthony Rodrigues

Mount Laguna, CA

#107 Oct 25, 2010
I stand corrected it was after we graduated that this happened...
Anthony Rodrigues

Mount Laguna, CA

#108 Oct 25, 2010
Marty wrote:
First of all, attorneys are NOT "nothing but professional liars", you may not want to face it but while I'm sure there are many attorneys who lie - the goal of prosecutors is seeking justice for the VICTIM(s). Christopher Box is NOT the victim here. Do you know why he isn't dead yet? Because of the incredibly long appeals process in this state, uh, did ya ever hear of a guy named Charles Manson? He's still alive too, in case you didn't know.
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Why? because there is reasonable doubt and where there is doubt you can't convict a man because you are afraid the truth will come out and a innocent man would be dead.
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Honey, again, I hate to be the bearer of bad news (but not really) but your boy Christopher Box WAS convicted, by a JURY. There was no reasonable doubt or I guess one of the members of the jury wouldn't have agreed to his FIRST DEGREE MURDER CONVICTION.
I'm telling you that you're delusional and you should wake up. I don't know Christopher, I don't think he's the most evil person in the world but his choice to get involved with drugs led him to his ultimate demise. I would bet my LIFE that Christopher Box will never have another trial (unless somehow YOU are appointed to the Supreme Court, which is even less likely hahaha), and there is no more truth to come out. Chris and Manuel were doing drugs, they were young, they just beat 3 people to death, yeah, I guess they may not have had their stories exactly straight, who cares???? They BOTH got what they both DESERVED.
If Chris fills your head with nonsense about D.A.'s being nothing but liars, please consider all they go through to become a deputy D.A....do you think they do this (and make significantly less money than they could in private practice) simply to lie their asses off???? If you don't see the absurdity in your belief(s) then you are the one who shouldn't believe everything she reads.
God has blessed me because I'm smart, and I don't fall in love with inmates, hahahahaha
One can be smart but also that same person can be very dumb when it comes to dealing with people... You have every right to your opinions but allow this lady to handle what she has to (right or wrong).
truth

Costa Mesa, CA

#109 Jan 2, 2011
sandiego2203 wrote:
Girl from Clairemont HS
Los Angeles, CA
you sure did get Chris N Manny confused!Manny must of not wanted to date you that is why you had hate for him,to bad! Manny was n still is the sweetest person you'll ever meet, thats why everyone loved him. if you really knew him you would not of thought twice of sincere way. if you dont know the story quit trying to put it together you were so wrong with your thoughts. Chris had it all planned when he went to pick Manny up that morning, Manny was up chillin waiting to go to work when Chris came and asked him to help move his mother, most people dont know what happen and that is fine but quit trying to play off these two like you really knew them i knew BOTH of them WELL.
eventually everyone will see who was telling the truth and who was not. i feel bad everyday for the familes that lost because everyone did in all.
TRUST ME THE TRUTH WILL COME TO THE LIGHT AND WHATEVER YALL WANT TO BELIEVE CHRISTOPHER BOX IS A SWEET GUY AND HE WAS STEROTYPED BECAUSE OF SIZE AND RACE. TRUST ME A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW MANNY KILLED THOSE PEOPLE ALL BY HIMSELF AND MISERY LOVES COMPANY AND THE VERY PERSON WHO TRIED TO BE A GOOD FRIEND TO HIM HE BETRAYED AND ACCUSED HIM OF SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO. BUT i PROMISE YOU REGARDLESS IF CHRISTOPHER BOX WILL BE PROVEN INNOCENT i JUST PRAY AND HOPE TO GOD THAT THAT IT WILL NOT BE AFTER DIES. HE'S A WONDERFUL GUY AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM FAILED HIM. HE WAS CONVICTED AND SENTENCED TO DEATH FALSELY. MANNY MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL. YOU KNOW THE TRUTH AND YOU NEED TO COME FORWARD AND TELL THE TRUTH AND SAVE CHRISTOPHER'S LIFE!!! I PRAY THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE PEACE UNTIL YOU TELL THE TRUTH I PRAY THAT IT WILL TAUNT YOU UNTIL YOU CONFESS. REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE IN THE INTERROGATION ROOM WITH THOSE DETECTIVES AND THEY TOLD YOU IF YOU TELL THEM CHRISTOPHER DID IT YOU WILL GET LIGHTER SENTENCE. IT'S TIME TO TELL THE TRUTH!
CLMT 2203

San Diego, CA

#110 Jan 3, 2011
truth
Oxnard, CA
YOUR SO FULL OFR SHIT FOR AND CHRIS IS TOO IF YOU BELIEVE HIS STORY, I CANT FOR THE LIFE OF ME SEE WHERE YOU GOT YOUR STORY, I GUESS THIS IS WHAT CHRIS TOLD YOU. WELL GUESS WHAT YOUR AN IDIOT TO REALLY THINK MANUEL WAS BEHIND THIS, HE WAS BROUGHT INTO CHRIS'S SCHEME TO ROB THIS LADY AND IT WENT BAD BECAUSE SHE KNEW HIM AND THE POOR LITTLE BOY GOT KILLED BECAUSE HE WOKE UP AND SAID CHRIS'S NAME SO CHRIS HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO KILL HIM SO HE WOULD TELL...MANUEL WAS THE ONE NOT SAYIN ANYTHING AND CHRIS WAS THE STOOL PIGEON SPILLING HIS GUTS,(I HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE IT, COURT PATERS AND POLICE RECORDS)SO REALLY IF YOUR GONNA GO BY WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU MAKE SURE ITS THE TRUTH BECAUSE BEHIND MANUEL IS THE TRUTH!
Typical

San Diego, CA

#111 Jan 3, 2011
To summarize,,,,,,,,
The black used a club and the latino used a blade.
BOTH did it.
Ken

Escondido, CA

#112 Jan 16, 2011
Did christopher box get excuted yet?
Ruben Ortega

United States

#113 Mar 16, 2011
Manuel Flores was a childhood friend of my brother's and actually resided in the southeast neighborhood of SHELLTOWN before moving to clairemont and commiting this terrible crime.i visited his home a few times as a kid.my mother knows his mother.i do not agree with what he did.
M from AL

Mobile, AL

#114 Jun 6, 2011
I looked up this thread to find more information on a serial killer that was profiled on the ID Channel. Just wanted to say to any women out there that may be randomly reading this- please do not contact rapists in prison. They prey constantly on women through letters, eventually meetings in person, and possibly convincing them to testify at parole meetings...and the statistics for the men is that they will kill and rape again. Please take the time to think about your actions, and the potential consequences for women everywhere.

Also, to all the people who knew these victims: I am so sorry that you have to post amongst people who are arguing that the murderer(s) are innocent. As a friend of a victim of a fatal crime all I can say is that there is ALWAYS those people. They will even get as insane as trying to contact families/friends of victims to harass and threaten them. So please please be careful of what information you post on the internet in regards to high profile cases. It may be playing it overly safe, but I have seen cases where deranged individuals will do anything to get victim friends to stop attending parole hearings. I feel so deeply for your pain, even if you were just an acquaintanceship of any of these poor people, but please protect yourself.

And that is the end of my rant. Thanks.
JMStrang

San Diego, CA

#115 Jun 7, 2011
David Lucas killed my mother and the 3 year old girl she was babysitting. I was in my playpen a few feet away and he didn't touch me. I was only a baby. He did recieve the death penalty. He was convicted of 3 murders and an attempt I believe, though was not convicted of my mother or the little girl, Amber's, murder though my mother did know Lucas because her brother had worked with him and had been a friend of his. He is still at San Quentin as far as I know.
Neighbor wrote:
Lucas was arrested in 84 and had a death penalty trial in 89. Someone I know was even contacted by his scumbag attorneys because she had grown up across the street from him many years earlier. The attorney was looking for anyone to give some reason to justify what Lucas had done. They of course found no justification because there is none. I saw a crime show the other day that featured Lucas' story.'Suburban Secrets' maybe or 'Forensic Files?' one of those. I don't recall whether he received the death penalty or whether he has been executed.
Another story that hit close to home for me was the killing of a good man named Elias Atallah.
He owned a corner market on Orange ave and Euclid ave in East San Diego. He was killed by a robber on sept 9 1976. His killer was never caught as far as I know. As a kid I went to his market every day until one day it was surrounded by police cars. He was a good man and the first person I ever knew who died.
Amb

Springfield, MO

#116 Jun 8, 2011
kcooke wrote:
<quoted text>No, he did it! He was friends of Rhonda Strang. How odd was it that she was killed the same way? I am the neighbor that Rhonda's 5 year old daughter came to for help. That day will haunt me for the rest of my life. That poor little girl had to find her mother with her "head cut off".
I am that little girl and I want to thank you for helping me.
UNKNOWN

El Centro, CA

#117 Jul 7, 2011
God will reveal the truth sooner or later and we'll all know the truth but what if I'm wrong or what if you wrong. my point is we all don't know the truth only those involved and God.
UNKNOWN

El Centro, CA

#118 Jul 7, 2011
Girl from Clairemont HS wrote:
I went to school with Chris Box and Manny Flores. I didn't keep in touch with Chris Box after he graduated, but over the years that I knew him, I found him to be a very sweet person. Manny on the other hand made my blood turn cold. I can't explain it. He had a sinister quality to him. He just struck me as mean through and through. When I heard about the murders, it didn't surprise me that Manny was involved. However, I cannot square the story I have heard with the Chris Box that I knew. I don't doubt that Chris did something bad - even just by being there to rob the eventual victims, but the story in the papers portraying Chris as the ringleader will never ring true in my ears and heart. I can't help but think that Manny took advantage of his small size and youth by pinning it all on Chris. Chris was then a very strongly built black man who, if you were going by prejudice and stereotypes, people would fear. I personally feared Manny. The whole thing is a tragedy. I mourn for all that Chris Box has lost, and personally will be very sad if he is ever executed. Whatever horrible mistakes he may have made, deep down he had a good a heart. Is it possible for someone to do something very, very bad but still be worthy of forgiveness?
I totally agree God Bless you!
marie

Fresno, CA

#119 Aug 7, 2011
JMStrang wrote:
David Lucas killed my mother and the 3 year old girl she was babysitting. I was in my playpen a few feet away and he didn't touch me. I was only a baby. He did recieve the death penalty. He was convicted of 3 murders and an attempt I believe, though was not convicted of my mother or the little girl, Amber's, murder though my mother did know Lucas because her brother had worked with him and had been a friend of his. He is still at San Quentin as far as I know.
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i knew david lucas. He was my ex's boss. I spent a good amount of time in the office of California Carpet Care with David. He always came across as an odd,distant person . He and I were alone in the office on several occasions, which in hindsight creeps me out.I am so thankful that I never accepted a ride home with David when he offered.I also knew Rhonda's brother and knew how devastated he was when his sister was murdered. It crushed him. I only wish the SDPD had realized sooner what this sick individual had been doing. Maybe lives could have been spared,your mother's included. I'm so sorry for all the victims.There are people out there who will never forget what this monster did.I pray that you find peace.
Taylor Shields

Buna, TX

#120 Nov 4, 2011
My aunt, Anne Swanke, was one of his victims and it breaks my heart that I was never able to meet her. She looks just like my sister and my grandparents (her parents) always call my sister Anne. It is just sad that some believe that he was falsely accused. But I am grateful to hear all of the great stories from her and because of her, I am a legacy to Zeta Tau Alpha. I have possession of her badge and guard, which happens to be my most prized possession. I hope no one has any doubt in mind about her murder. It has affected my life, although I never got to meet her...
Fisher

Yakima, WA

#121 Feb 9, 2012
hmd wrote:
There is a lot of the David A Lucas case that just does not seem right, has anyone ever thought that he may be wrongly accused?
i am the aunt of Amber Fisher and David Lucas is GUILTY of murdering 2 children and 3 adults . He is a monster ! He should be put to death already.
Fisher

Yakima, WA

#122 Feb 9, 2012
JMStrang wrote:
David Lucas killed my mother and the 3 year old girl she was babysitting. I was in my playpen a few feet away and he didn't touch me. I was only a baby. He did recieve the death penalty. He was convicted of 3 murders and an attempt I believe, though was not convicted of my mother or the little girl, Amber's, murder though my mother did know Lucas because her brother had worked with him and had been a friend of his. He is still at San Quentin as far as I know.
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Jessica , this is Rebecca Fisher, Amber's aunt....contact me. I would love to touch bases with you. Rollan1141@yahoo.com

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