CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 12, 2010

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FogHorn Fuds

Covina, CA

#7057 Feb 9, 2013
Is this the annual 'fudders' meeting?

Because you all sure come up with some pretty stupid reasons to post.

Your so called points of interest are boring.

Much like he GOP, Republican or Tea Party member's.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#7059 Feb 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know what you are talking about. Despite playing a key role in advancing climate change hysteria, the United Kingdom’s National Weather Service, known as the Met Office, quietly released a report last week conceding that so-called “global warming” actually stopped more than 15 years ago. The startling admission shows once again that United Nations theories and climate models are wildly inaccurate at best, experts say, meaning multi-trillion dollar schemes to deal with alleged human-caused “climate change” are at the very least severely misguided.
I know exactly what I am talking about kid, you are listening to religious leaders and politicians and entertainers for science, that is why you have already shown how ignorant you are on the subject

I get it that you don’t understand the facts, and you don’t want to hear the facts, so if you choose to remain ignorant, you are doing the right thing, trolling for other ignorant people with comments like the above. After all the ignorant is your constituency.

It is a fact that the earth is warming, dramatically on a geological scale, it is a fact that humans have contributed to this, what we don’t know is how much.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#7060 Feb 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>What's funny is how you are critical of the Government, but the first time any liberal working for the Government says anything, you gobble it up....lol....keep posting, I enjoy the humor.
Actually there was no point in bringing this up with you, it is like trying to discuss simple multiplication with someone that argues that 1+1 does not equal 2

You simply don’t have enough information to discuss the subject.

It is like trying to discuss lunar orbit with the flat earth society
Lots of time

Covina, CA

#7061 Feb 11, 2013
If you paid full price of the ticket then you shouldn't worry.

But if you used one of your buddies friends to pick up a scalped ticket then the odds of being found out at the gate main entrance are high.

At the main gate is where all the fun happens.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7062 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I know exactly what I am talking about kid, you are listening to religious leaders and politicians and entertainers for science, that is why you have already shown how ignorant you are on the subject
I get it that you don’t understand the facts, and you don’t want to hear the facts, so if you choose to remain ignorant, you are doing the right thing, trolling for other ignorant people with comments like the above. After all the ignorant is your constituency.
It is a fact that the earth is warming, dramatically on a geological scale, it is a fact that humans have contributed to this, what we don’t know is how much.
I didn't know religious leaders were talking about it and most all politicians are putting more fear out. was one scientist I was listening to, he is neither and doesn't take any Government grants to make results in any favor. It is not a fact, actually we are in a cooling trend. Svensmark is a physicist and professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute in Copenhagen. What are you?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7063 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Actually there was no point in bringing this up with you, it is like trying to discuss simple multiplication with someone that argues that 1+1 does not equal 2
You simply don’t have enough information to discuss the subject.
It is like trying to discuss lunar orbit with the flat earth society
Henrik Svensmark (born 1958) is a physicist and professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute (DTU Space) in Copenhagen. He is known for his theory on the effects of cosmic rays on cloud formation as an indirect cause of global warming.

Henrik Svensmark obtained a Master of Science in Engineering (Cand. Polyt) in 1985 and a Ph.D. in 1987 from the Physics Laboratory I at the Technical University of Denmark

Henrik Svensmark is director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research at the Danish Space Research Institute (DSRI), a part of the Danish National Space Center. He previously headed the sun-climate group at DSRI. He held postdoctoral positions in physics at three other organizations: University of California, Berkeley, Nordic Institute for Theoretical Physics, and the Niels Bohr Institute.

In 1997, Svensmark and Eigil Friis-Christensen popularised a theory that linked galactic cosmic rays and global climate change mediated primarily by variations in the intensity of the solar wind, which they have termed cosmoclimatology. This theory had earlier been reviewed by Dickinson. One of the small-scale processes related to this link was studied in a laboratory experiment performed at the Danish National Space Center (paper published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society A, February 8, 2007).

Svensmark's research downplays the significance to which atmospheric CO2 has affected recent global warming.

What is your background?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7064 Feb 11, 2013
Dr. Norman Page says that “The earth is entering a cooling phase which is likely to last about 30 years and possibly longer.”

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/11/20/g...

What does Bigot dope say?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#7065 Feb 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't know religious leaders were talking about it and most all politicians are putting more fear out. was one scientist I was listening to, he is neither and doesn't take any Government grants to make results in any favor. It is not a fact, actually we are in a cooling trend. Svensmark is a physicist and professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute in Copenhagen. What are you?
You don’t have enough information to discuss this topic, as long as you get your information from religious leaders, politicians, and political entertainers you will continue to be absolutely clueless on the subject

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7066 Feb 11, 2013
Climate Change:'Hoax' Or Crime Of The Century?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2...

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7067 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually there was no point in bringing this up with you, it is like trying to discuss simple multiplication with someone that argues that 1+1 does not equal 2
You simply don’t have enough information to discuss the subject.
It is like trying to discuss lunar orbit with the flat earth society
You sound as stupid as Rev Gore, it's only my way and I will not debate because I'm right because it was so hot last August...lol. You are not arguing with me, you are disputing Physicists, Meteorologist and experts in the field, you are not an expert because you bought a telescope and speak to little boys in a corner of a room.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7068 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You don’t have enough information to discuss this topic, as long as you get your information from religious leaders, politicians, and political entertainers you will continue to be absolutely clueless on the subject
It's you that gets the info from religious leaders and politicians, like Rev Gore. I was quoting from Svensmark, who is a physicist and professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute in Copenhagen. He is not a leader in religion or politics. I will ask you again, what are your credentials besides watching a movie? Are you an expert?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#7069 Feb 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>It's you that gets the info from religious leaders and politicians, like Rev Gore. I was quoting from Svensmark, who is a physicist and professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute in Copenhagen. He is not a leader in religion or politics. I will ask you again, what are your credentials besides watching a movie? Are you an expert?
You are posting examples listed on websites that have a political agenda, that is all I need to hear

Our own American space administration has the data, we already know, and your are trying to convince people of Santa Claus

again, you simply do not have enough information to discuss the topic

fortunately the people that need to know, on both sides of the political isle, already do, that you personally remain ignorant is of no real consequence.

You are trolling for the ignorant, which is fitting as that is your constituency

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7071 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You are posting examples listed on websites that have a political agenda, that is all I need to hear
Our own American space administration has the data, we already know, and your are trying to convince people of Santa Claus
again, you simply do not have enough information to discuss the topic
fortunately the people that need to know, on both sides of the political isle, already do, that you personally remain ignorant is of no real consequence.
You are trolling for the ignorant, which is fitting as that is your constituency
What is the political agenda of a physicist and professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute in Copenhagen? You are the one that believes the paid American scientists getting the Government grants to prove it's real. Nasa is Not the God on the subject, you just defined what you are accusing me of. Who funds NASA? Get a clue!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7072 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You are posting examples listed on websites that have a political agenda
No I'm not. That's why I posted from countries like Denmark and the UK. You didn't get the memo, global warming is a hoax. You are an alarmist, a liberal that wants more tax money to come in to support your candidates. Gore lied but you still bought into it. Alarmists are the reason we pay so much at the pump. I hope and wish we are warming. The reality is that globally the temperature was a mere 0.1 degrees above normal. We are talking a number that is statistically irrelevant. If you took the Arctic sea ice and Antarctic sea ice and you came up with a total you’d find that global sea ice was above normal. The press and the IPCC have an agenda and unfortunately that doesn’t include the truth. And guess what: they changed it to climate change...the climate is always changing fool, follow the money. I don't believe politicians. YOU DO.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7073 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
fortunately the people that need to know, on both sides of the political isle, already do,
Exactly...you believe politics as the truth. What is the agenda of politics? Money. wake up fool.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7074 Feb 11, 2013
More proof from Science: Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now - and world has been cooling for 2,000 years

Study of semi-fossilised trees gives accurate climate reading back to 138BC
World was warmer in Roman and Medieval times than it is now

How did the Romans grow grapes in northern England? Perhaps because it was warmer than we thought.

A study suggests the Britain of 2,000 years ago experienced a lengthy period of hotter summers than today.

German researchers used data from tree rings – a key indicator of past climate – to claim the world has been on a ‘long-term cooling trend’ for two millennia until the global warming of the twentieth century.

This cooling was punctuated by a couple of warm spells.

These are the Medieval Warm Period, which is well known, but also a period during the toga-wearing Roman times when temperatures were apparently 1 deg C warmer than now.

Read more, educate yourself: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7075 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
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again, you simply do not have enough information to discuss the topic
It's obvious that you don't. You might want to stick to the issue you seem to know best, homosexual marriage.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#7076 Feb 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly...you believe politics as the truth. What is the agenda of politics? Money. wake up fool.
No I understand science, which requires no belief at all.

You don’t have a clue, you refuse to have a clue.

you don’t have enough facts to be involved in a conversations about this, you don’t even understand the data we already have, instead you are searching websites with an agenda to spin it for you.

there is no point, fortunately, the people that need to know, already do.

I am not going to argue facts with you, if you wanted to discuss the implications of the facts that would be one thing, but you don’t have enough facts to discuss even that.
Rush

Fairbury, NE

#7077 Feb 11, 2013
When you really look at it, we are just a pimple on a gnats a$$ in terms of time on this planet. The planet has heated up, and cooled off thousands of times. I has been hit by rocks that have killed off everyrhing, and has healed its self time and time again. As far as im concerned, 10000 years is hard to get a true read on the trends of the climate. When you look at the fact that the earth has been here 5 billion years, 10000 is like a second in time. The stuff we are doing to the planet is surely not helping, but it will heal again when it gets rid of us, and start over. Yes climate change is very real, but I think we are just along for the ride. I for one am going to enjoy it, and make my little slice as enjoyable as possible.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#7078 Feb 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No I understand science, which requires no belief at all.
You don’t have a clue, you refuse to have a clue.
you don’t have enough facts to be involved in a conversations about this, you don’t even understand the data we already have, instead you are searching websites with an agenda to spin it for you.
there is no point, fortunately, the people that need to know, already do.
I am not going to argue facts with you, if you wanted to discuss the implications of the facts that would be one thing, but you don’t have enough facts to discuss even that.
You argue like the Rev Gore and the politicians. Where there is no debate, it's absolute. I have been skeptical from the start since it was put out by politicians and government grants and paid scientists. The difference between us is that I don't buy into what a politician tells me flying around in private jets complaining about my car. I base my facts on scientists from around the world.

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