Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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#183908 Mar 19, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I compare you to Hitler because you both advocate the same thing. You both believe that purity of the human race is in part based on the elimination of homosexuals. Is this not true? If I'm mistaken, please "straighten" me out.(wink)
Please, quote where I said any such thing.

Smirk.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183909 Mar 19, 2013
Ronald wrote:
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Big D.
Yes. I agree. Although Adams might have been motivated by ulterior considerations, he could have truthfully represented the United States to not have been "...in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" because the founders did not establish an "official" Government Christian church, as I previously stated.
Ronald
Good you know more than most Christians I have talked to, I will give you that.

And I will defend your rights to believe, and will even defend your children from being indoctrinated in a religon other than you prefer, as long as you grant me the same right and protect them from yours.

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North Hollywood, CA

#183910 Mar 19, 2013
Ronald wrote:
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Rose_NoHo.
I take it you are not familiar with Abraham Lincoln, the great Whig
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Zzzz...

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#183911 Mar 19, 2013
Big D wrote:
The argument in the country is starting to change, anyone notice.
Now that 11 states and one district recognize SSM, the argument is now, why are same sex couples treated differently in one state than another, isnít freedom for all Americans?
Perfect :)
That is now what businesses are asking the federal government, they are saying it is a business imperative that they be able to attract and move the best people for the job from state to state regardless of their orientation, that SSM needs to be recognized nationally.
Yeah, who needs that silly 9th and 10th Amendment? To hell with it, let's just toss this entire silly idea of a Republican form of government.

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#183912 Mar 19, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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We're not a theocracy, stud. We're a democratic republic.
Nope, we are a Constitutional Republic. The founders did not in any way shape or form create a democracy.

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#183913 Mar 19, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Or just because a few states have redefined marriage in their states, why should they have to as well, when the voters of the latter states said no?
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Uh huh....so they can't get the best people without nationwide SSM? Sigh.....
So I guess that means my concealed carry permit is now good in all 50 States too now, right?

At least if we use their logic, but of course this philosophy really only counts when it is something they want.

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#183914 Mar 19, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Zzzz...
Quick, someone help Rose, she is forgetting to breath again.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#183915 Mar 19, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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So I guess that means my concealed carry permit is now good in all 50 States too now, right?
At least if we use their logic, but of course this philosophy really only counts when it is something they want.
Good point.

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#183916 Mar 19, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Stupid, I said "IF that were the case, gay people would just marry a friend of the opposite sex." IOW, IF the only thing gay people were interested in were benefits, they would just marry friends of the opposite sex, and not fight for gay marriage.
That's funny, considering anyone could say they are married, hell they could even create a church that would perform homosexual marriages. BTW, they already exist Rose. Stop acting like this fight has nothing to do with benefits, benefits have EVERYTHING to do with it.

Your dishonesty combined with your illogical ranting are why people don't take you seriously.

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#183917 Mar 19, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Not in everything Rosie. Only native born citizens can becone president.
Natural- not native.

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#183918 Mar 19, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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If voters had their way in the South, blacks and other minorities would likely still not have equal rights.
It took federal intervention by way of physical force (The National Guard), federal laws, and Supreme Court decisions to make Southern states integrate the races, enact voting rights, etc.
All of which violated the Constitution.

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North Hollywood, CA

#183921 Mar 19, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Quick, someone help Rose, she is forgetting to breath again.
Breath again?
If you forget to breathe it would be best not to do anything.
Except laugh.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183922 Mar 19, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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That's funny, considering anyone could say they are married, hell they could even create a church that would perform homosexual marriages. BTW, they already exist Rose. Stop acting like this fight has nothing to do with benefits, benefits have EVERYTHING to do with it.
Your dishonesty combined with your illogical ranting are why people don't take you seriously.
Stupid, I never said the fight had *nothing* to do with benefits, it's just not the only thing. If it were, gay people could just marry friends, or strangers for that matter, of the opposite sex and get the benefits. Clearly something else is involved.

You take me seriously, you are fixated on me. You keep trying to "get" me. It's actually kind of funny.

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#183923 Mar 19, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Breath again?
If you forget to breathe it would be best not to do anything.
Except laugh.
Fail.

But that's nothing new for you.

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#183924 Mar 19, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Stupid, I never said the fight had *nothing* to do with benefits, it's just not the only thing. If it were, gay people could just marry friends, or strangers for that matter, of the opposite sex and get the benefits. Clearly something else is involved.
You take me seriously, you are fixated on me. You keep trying to "get" me. It's actually kind of funny.
I don't need to try very hard to get you, I just need to show up.

BTW Rose, if there were NO benefits to marriage, you wouldn't see homosexuals fighting for the "right" to marry. This most certainly is about benefits Rose, you aren't fighting for the use of a word you moron.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183925 Mar 19, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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I don't need to try very hard to get you, I just need to show up.
BTW Rose, if there were NO benefits to marriage, you wouldn't see homosexuals fighting for the "right" to marry. This most certainly is about benefits Rose, you aren't fighting for the use of a word you moron.

You are so stupid it's funny.
Do you have some kind of point?
If the point is that you are a moron who is fixated me, that was made long time ago.

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#183926 Mar 19, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You are so stupid it's funny.
Do you have some kind of point?
If the point is that you are a moron who is fixated me, that was made long time ago.
You are dancing again Rose.

People present "points" to you all the time, you simply can't reply to them intelligently so you dance.

“Busting Kimare's”

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#183927 Mar 19, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Nope, we are a Constitutional Republic. The founders did not in any way shape or form create a democracy.
split hairs, if you will, but we are most certainly NOT a theocracy.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183928 Mar 19, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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You are dancing again Rose.
People present "points" to you all the time, you simply can't reply to them intelligently so you dance.
Dance? What are you talking about?
I'm quite direct.
If you had any integrity, you'd have to admit that.

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#183929 Mar 19, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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split hairs, if you will, but we are most certainly NOT a theocracy.
It's not "splitting hairs" it is a very distinct difference. The founder's fought for month's through the ratification debates to show that we were not to be a "democracy" that we were not a "national" government, but that we were in fact a republic with a federal government that was restricted in its powers through the specific enumerations contained within the Constitution. Go read the State Ratification debates, hell, Madison and Hamilton devoted no less than 4 of the Federalist papers to this topic.

There are not minor things, they should be taught, and they need to be understood. Many people spend their days on this thread screaming about "Constitutional Right's" when they don't have a damn clue what the true meaning of the words contained within the document.

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