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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201891 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Winston Smith

United States

#146055 Jun 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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You previously posted those now admittedly faulty studies as proof.
Now you are saying gay families are not equal because of bigotry.
That new twirl flies in the face of history, nature and common sense.
But hey, that's never stopped you before, has it?
Look twirly boy, you're going to have to do better to prove your point. I'm not saying that gay families aren't equal. You are. Where you fail, miserably, is in your inability to admit that the comparisons need to be done on a level playing field. You want to compare children from marriages that have maintained both biological parents (therefore unfailed marriages) to marriages that have one adoptive parent and one biological parent - the gay couples who've got children that fell into the age range dictated by the study you've cited. These, by definition are failed marriages.

If you want any credibility for your comparisons, you need to compare the subsequent homosexual relationships from failed marriages to the subsequent heterosexual relationships from failed marriages.

That I even have to explain this to you is a clear reflection of the lack of understanding that a life coach has compared to a trained psychologist. You're either too stupid to understand the concept or you're unwilling. That is your problem, not mine.
Winston Smith

United States

#146056 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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98% of human population still agrees marriage is defined as a union between a man & a woman.
Cite your proof or accept that many of us think you're a liar.

If you think 98% is accurate you need to think a little more clearly. There is a good chance that 2% of the population is gay and that the vast majority of them would like access to marriage and therefore are in opposition to your notion. Then there are a number of heterosexuals like myself who see no need to limit marriage in the fashion that you do. Face it, you're a dying breed and will be seeing the same fate as dinosaurs in the next decade or two.
ELH

Portland, OR

#146057 Jun 15, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
That I even have to explain this to you is a clear reflection of the lack of understanding that a life coach has compared to a trained psychologist. You're either too stupid to understand the concept or you're unwilling. That is your problem, not mine.
Life "coach"? OMG Please tell men that kiMare, the queen of passive aggressive nut jobs isn't trying to pass him/her self off as a LIFE COACH?
ELH

Portland, OR

#146058 Jun 15, 2012
The Pink Buffalo wrote:
SQUAWK!
You certainly have lots of time to post cut and paste lunatic fringe "opinions"....wouldn 't it be better spent taking daily inventories of your stock pile of MRE's and ammunition?
ELH

Portland, OR

#146059 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
98% of human population still agrees marriage is defined as a union between a man & a woman.
Alas, recent poll show OTHERWISE... but keep telling yourself that the entire country is populated by sanctimonious, self righteous idiots who believe as you do.

“Your religion is NOT in charge”

Since: Nov 11

Columbus

#146060 Jun 15, 2012
That's the part that I always laugh at, ELH... they claim to be taking the righteous road and that it's "all about the children"...

Where were these people before the whole same sex marriage question? What were they doing to protect the "traditional" marriages that were falling apart nation wide? What were they doing to "protect the children" born out of wedlock and those in single-parent homes?

"All about the children" is a lie. It is hypocracy. They do NOT care about children at all... it's their way of attacking those that they would rather bully than accept. It is immature and illogical.
Winston Smith

United States

#146061 Jun 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Is Jon outing a homosexual with his post quoted above? Is it OK to announce the sexual orientation of your political opponents, as Jon's does?
I feel this type of argument harms everyone. I condemn the defamation quoted above!
A more salient comment/question is why does Marcus Bachmann deny that his clinic engages in reparative therapy when it actually does?

BTW, just in case you haven't been paying attention, Mr. Bachmann's sexuality has come into question for quite a bit now. The subject hasn't just seen light of day on this forum.
Winston Smith

United States

#146062 Jun 15, 2012
ELH wrote:
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Life "coach"? OMG Please tell men that kiMare, the queen of passive aggressive nut jobs isn't trying to pass him/her self off as a LIFE COACH?
No, it isn't quite so simple. Or haven't you been paying attention? First he tried to pass hisseff off as a therapist for therapists. He finally made the claim to be a life coach. One has to wonder if Sally Struthers didn't introduce him to his lucrative career in bilking money out of stupid people with too much readily available cash. Drunken stock market sprees two years ago would have been better investments.
Winston Smith

United States

#146063 Jun 15, 2012
Nytebreid wrote:
That's the part that I always laugh at, ELH... they claim to be taking the righteous road and that it's "all about the children"...
Where were these people before the whole same sex marriage question? What were they doing to protect the "traditional" marriages that were falling apart nation wide? What were they doing to "protect the children" born out of wedlock and those in single-parent homes?
"All about the children" is a lie. It is hypocracy. They do NOT care about children at all... it's their way of attacking those that they would rather bully than accept. It is immature and illogical.
You can tell this with their anti-abortion stance. God forbid an unwanted unborn child be deprived of being the recipient of their disdain.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146067 Jun 15, 2012
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
You see, if I were I would be trying to force my moral views onto others using the law, as you are proposing.
I am arguing for equal protection of the laws, as mandated by our federal constitution. You are the one trying to strip constitutional rights from fellow citizens counter to the US Constitution. Can you tell which position is fascist? I give you a hint, it's not the one that seeks to extend the same legal rights and protections to all people.
You are trying to force your views onto others. You need to define the laws for equal protection. Where does it say marriage is between a man and a man or a woman and a woman?
Bill Of Rights

Livermore, CA

#146068 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>The point is: what is freaking left to argue here? If you want to bring up a point, you can read it here, every single point is here. What's funny is that this never stops. LOL!!!! All the points have been made, nothing, nothing will evolve out of this topix, copies won't be mailed out to the world.
Hey good buddy,Fantastic! No need for you to stay on this thread any longer then! Good bye,and good luck on your future bigoted adventures Faux Christian boy! Need any help with the door? Lord forbid it hits you on your azz on your way out? Vio con dios! LOL
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#146070 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>The point is: what is freaking left to argue here? If you want to bring up a point, you can read it here, every single point is here. What's funny is that this never stops. LOL!!!! All the points have been made, nothing, nothing will evolve out of this topix, copies won't be mailed out to the world.
It changed my mind.

I too thought gay marriage out there. It was not until diving into the TOPIX nonsense did I realize my personal ban against gay marriage was wrong.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146071 Jun 15, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey good buddy,Fantastic! No need for you to stay on this thread any longer then! Good bye,and good luck on your future bigoted adventures Faux Christian boy! Need any help with the door? Lord forbid it hits you on your azz on your way out? Vio con dios! LOL
What difference does it make to you if I make another comment or not? Now I will stay here longer, thank you. So because I don't agree with you, I'm a bigot and a fake Christian? Who appointed you Judge? What have you added recently that wasn't already discussed a thousand times? Your name calling is all you add.
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#146073 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are trying to force your views onto others. You need to define the laws for equal protection. Where does it say marriage is between a man and a man or a woman and a woman?
No one is trying to force their view on others.

For that you'd need to take a daughter, hobby car and a favorite pet feline hostage.

LOL!!

Everyone here is free to believe what they want moron.

If you don't feel good about gays marrying then right on. You're entitled to your opinion.

But to me and others it's akin to you not wanting to have round BF Goodrich tires so there you go.
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#146074 Jun 15, 2012
The Pink Buffalo wrote:
<quoted text>
How bout equal protection for schoolchildren that you wish to brainwash and turn into a progressive. There aren't enough fema camps or hospitals for all the sicko's to be rounded up and let them live their final years in sin and lust to be kept away from those that wish to raise a normal healthy happy family.
Shalom!
Locate proof on this bullshit claim.

While you're doing that can you find Elvis Presley's 2010 tax return?

Idiot.

LOL!!

Get lost Buffalo.
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#146075 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>What difference does it make to you if I make another comment or not? Now I will stay here longer, thank you. So because I don't agree with you, I'm a bigot and a fake Christian? Who appointed you Judge? What have you added recently that wasn't already discussed a thousand times? Your name calling is all you add.
Just my opinion but I think TOPIX is your only social connection.
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#146076 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are trying to force your views onto others. You need to define the laws for equal protection. Where does it say marriage is between a man and a man or a woman and a woman?
Focus on marriage.

In traditional terms it was when Johnny Hotrod met Sally Studyalot.

They were attracted to each other, had hot sex in between the front and backseat of Johnny's coupe with fifty dozen used Trojans thrown into the orchard to prove it and ended up getting married. To most this is marriage but when you think Motorcycle Mike is the hottest thing running when you're Accountant Andy only to find out Mike is looking at you as if you were freshly baked bread to a starving man only to follow the same route as Johnny and Sally I have to ask...

....what's the fucking DIFFERENCE shoeshine boy?
Bill Of Rights

Livermore, CA

#146077 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are trying to force your views onto others. You need to define the laws for equal protection. Where does it say marriage is between a man and a man or a woman and a woman?
Sorry but it isn't rocket science Faux Christian bigot boy! Any and all laws that us straights are covered by under "Equal protection" Gays as full Americans should also be covered by all the same laws equally! This would include the right to marry if it is indeed one of "OUR" covered rights under The,"Equal protection" clause of the 14th amendment! See how simple that was? Never mind,most likely like the joke about the ceiling,it's over your head! By the way,why are you still here,I thought it's all been covered? LOL
Josh

Kristianstad, Sweden

#146078 Jun 15, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry but it isn't rocket science Faux Christian bigot boy! Any and all laws that us straights are covered by under "Equal protection" Gays as full Americans should also be covered by all the same laws equally! This would include the right to marry if it is indeed one of "OUR" covered rights under The,"Equal protection" clause of the 14th amendment! See how simple that was? Never mind,most likely like the joke about the ceiling,it's over your head! By the way,why are you still here,I thought it's all been covered? LOL
STFU you closet case fa got!

“Your religion is NOT in charge”

Since: Nov 11

Columbus

#146079 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are trying to force your views onto others. You need to define the laws for equal protection. Where does it say marriage is between a man and a man or a woman and a woman?
"Force", Ricardo, is when someone puts a gun to your head and demands that YOU marry a man. That has never been a goal of those advocating the recognition of same sex marriage.

Let's say that the courts overturn the ridiculous bans... "Adam" and "Steve" then move into your neighborhood... you can tell all your friends, relatives and other neighbors "As far as I'm concerned, they're not married." Freedom of speech allows for this.

Your denial, however, will not affect Adam or Steve. Neither would their marriage or their proximity to you have any affect on the relationships you are currently a part of.

Please, tell us - what do you believe is being "forced" onto you?

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