Drowning prompts Longshore review

Drowning prompts Longshore review

There are 14 comments on the Connecticut Post story from Aug 29, 2008, titled Drowning prompts Longshore review. In it, Connecticut Post reports that:

Westport's first selectman has ordered a review of safety procedures at Longshore Sailing School, following the drowning death of a 3-year-old girl in Long Island Sound on Tuesday.

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CT Res

Bridgeport, CT

#1 Aug 29, 2008
You've got to love how all these 'experts' come out of the woodwork after the fact -

"At least one sailing expert said this week that a 3-year-old should not have been on the fast two-hull sailboat."

What a joke.
Jason

Marion, CT

#2 Aug 30, 2008
Why were two 3-year-olds and a 6-year-old on a freakin' catamaran? What parent thinks it's a good idea to put little kids under the supervision of another kid (18-year old) on the open water?
Old-Bpt fan

AOL

#3 Aug 30, 2008
I can not imagine how the 18 year old feels,and how he has the rest of his life to deal with this! Three years old -just a baby! WHAT were these parents thinking?????!!!!! Things happen,accidents happen ,and I am sure the sailing instructor did everything he possibly could. I know how ONE 3 year old can act, never mind TWO of them together! The 6 year old was probably no problem because a 6 year old listens a lot better than a head strong,temper tantrum throwing 3 year old. I know that fact because I am a parent and this is a fact of life. Two 3 year olds together do NOT equal one 6 year old! Three years old should be in back yard pools or in the Y learnbing how to swim,NOT out on the Sound.! In a catamaran no less!
Central Scrutinizer

Morganville, NJ

#4 Aug 30, 2008
The problem was with the life vests.
The Sailing School more than likely did not have a life jacket that would fit a three year old properly, and they tried to make do with one that did not fit properly.
honesty

Milford, CT

#5 Aug 30, 2008
3 years old..?..even with a life jacket..is this a good idea?
Steve

Piscataway, NJ

#6 Aug 30, 2008
Old-Bpt fan wrote:
I can not imagine how the 18 year old feels,and how he has the rest of his life to deal with this!
What was the SCHOOL thinking when they allowed the 18 year old to take the kids out. Not every parent knows the dangers of the boat; the school does. Who authorized the 18 year old with two three year olds and a six year old?
taxpayer

Bridgeport, CT

#7 Aug 30, 2008
Lets not blame this 18 year old for the policies of the school. These instructors are most likely good at what they do, but, maturity and experience is the key to instruction.
As a boating instructor it is my responsibility not the schools or the towns or anyone else’s to make sure that all safety precautions are met.
Parents should make sure of the quality of safety that the school has, not just they have one in place. It sounds like this school did not practice emergency procedures as they should.
I do agree that everyone that steps aboard any type of water vessel should be able to swim and that boating schools should abide, by testing. Just as there should be an on water operation test for boats and PWC owners. They do it for trucks, cars, motorcycles, why not for boats????
Ctsailor

Morganville, NJ

#8 Sep 5, 2008
As a sailing instructor, and active sailior at Longshore, I think people need to reassess this accident. I deeply send my condolences to the family of this poor child, but seriously this was freak accident. Granted a parent should know better than to put two three year olds on a sailboat, accidents happen. Longshore is the biggest junior sailing school in the nation and has taught thousands of kids and adults for over 25 years. So far nothing even close to this has ever happend. So for the record it is NOT the sailing instructors fault, all the instructors are well qualified and mature, and its aweful to blame a parent for not knowing better. This was tragic ACCIDENT. And an accident caused by the freak of wind.
Sailing is dangerous, period. This accident should teach people to take into account the uncontrollable factor of nature.
judge not

Bayonne, NJ

#9 Sep 5, 2008
Maybe we shouldn't judge and it probably isn't the instructors fault and it was an accident. I still can't believe any one would put two 3 years and a 6 year old on a catamaran. It shoul dhave been one child per adult. 3 years do not have the experience needed in "accidents" Life preservers only if a three year old know how to use one and doesn't swallow water. This accident was bound to happen if procedures and rules are disregarded. Because of the uncontrollable factor of nature, NO 3 YEAR OLD SHOULD BE LEARNING HOW TO SAIL. I don't care how many times it didn't happen, it happened to this innocent child, that had no idea the peril they were in. Putting a child on a raft ten feet from the shore can be dangerous. I still don't understand the thought process that led people to believe that this was okay. How could one instructor help 3 children in the even of an overturned boat? This situation is scary enough as an adult.
judge not

Bayonne, NJ

#10 Sep 5, 2008
I meant to say life preservers only work if children know how to use them properly and most never fit properly.
Hellogirl

Burlington, VT

#11 Sep 13, 2008
Umm, it IS the instructors' fault for making a separate arrangement with the parents when the school's rules explicitly state that a child must be at least 9 years old to take sailing lessons.(I hope she enjoys the few extra bucks she made.) And it IS the school's fault for not monitoring their instructors properly. There should be enough instructors and/or managers present to ensure that no one instructor can make such a willful decision to subvert the rules. And it IS the parents fault for putting their children in harm's way when they knew the age minimum was 9 years. For the mother to say the child had a perfect life just shows how much denial she's in - death by drowning at age 3 while crying out for help is not the perfect life by any stretch of the imagination. With decisions come consequences. There's just no getting around that unfortunately for the little girl who died and will never get to grow up and make her own decisions.
Ctsailor wrote:
As a sailing instructor, and active sailior at Longshore, I think people need to reassess this accident. I deeply send my condolences to the family of this poor child, but seriously this was freak accident. Granted a parent should know better than to put two three year olds on a sailboat, accidents happen. Longshore is the biggest junior sailing school in the nation and has taught thousands of kids and adults for over 25 years. So far nothing even close to this has ever happend. So for the record it is NOT the sailing instructors fault, all the instructors are well qualified and mature, and its aweful to blame a parent for not knowing better. This was tragic ACCIDENT. And an accident caused by the freak of wind.
Sailing is dangerous, period. This accident should teach people to take into account the uncontrollable factor of nature.
Hellogirl

Burlington, VT

#12 Sep 13, 2008
By the way...I should make clear that I have no personal information on this incident. My opinions are based solely on the news stories published in the local papers. I don't know if the instructor received any payment or if there actually was a "special arrangement" between the parents and the instructor as quoted in a 9/4 story on the WestportMinuteman.com .
seafarer

New Haven, CT

#13 Sep 16, 2008
One of the consequences is that the instructor and the parents will be living with this for the rest of their lives. What else do you want?
Hellogirl wrote:
Umm, it IS the instructors' fault for making a separate arrangement with the parents when the school's rules explicitly state that a child must be at least 9 years old to take sailing lessons.(I hope she enjoys the few extra bucks she made.) And it IS the school's fault for not monitoring their instructors properly. There should be enough instructors and/or managers present to ensure that no one instructor can make such a willful decision to subvert the rules. And it IS the parents fault for putting their children in harm's way when they knew the age minimum was 9 years. For the mother to say the child had a perfect life just shows how much denial she's in - death by drowning at age 3 while crying out for help is not the perfect life by any stretch of the imagination. With decisions come consequences. There's just no getting around that unfortunately for the little girl who died and will never get to grow up and make her own decisions.
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Hellogirl

Burlington, VT

#14 Sep 20, 2008
seafarer wrote:
One of the consequences is that the instructor and the parents will be living with this for the rest of their lives. What else do you want?
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The consequence I was talking about was not something I wanted, it was simply fact: The consequence of all those bad decisions (by the parents, instructor and school) is that a child died. I was responding to another post that said it wasn't the instructor's fault. Nobody wants tragedies.

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