Saudi Man Gets First Peek at Wifes' F...

Saudi Man Gets First Peek at Wifes' Face After 30 Years, Now She Wants a Divorce

There are 71 comments on the www.dvorak.org story from May 22, 2008, titled Saudi Man Gets First Peek at Wifes' Face After 30 Years, Now She Wants a Divorce. In it, www.dvorak.org reports that:

After 30 years of marriage, cynics might say most husbands and wives would have seen quite enough of each other, thank you very much.

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fed up with the mess

United States

#1 May 23, 2008
that is what they get for following a phony religion with phony man made up rules!

Since: Dec 06

Jidah

#2 May 23, 2008
fed up with the mess wrote:
that is what they get for following a phony religion with phony man made up rules!
what she did is an ancient bedouin tradition which is prohibited in Islam. stop judging in a rash manner and look at the issue carefully before passing false judgements like what you just did
fed up with the mess

United States

#3 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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what she did is an ancient bedouin tradition which is prohibited in Islam. stop judging in a rash manner and look at the issue carefully before passing false judgements like what you just did
It is man made and is NOT one of GODS commandments. It is wrong in the first place. Who says it is prohibited? GOD? I don't think so. Some man made it up!
fed up with the mess

United States

#4 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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what she did is an ancient bedouin tradition which is prohibited in Islam. stop judging in a rash manner and look at the issue carefully before passing false judgements like what you just did
This is stupid and no reason for a divorce. She needs JESUS!
Jan

Victoria, Canada

#5 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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what she did is an ancient bedouin tradition which is prohibited in Islam. stop judging in a rash manner and look at the issue carefully before passing false judgements like what you just did
Cultures can change. If you'd look at the rest of the world, maybe you'd notice.
fed up with the mess

United States

#6 May 23, 2008
Jan wrote:
<quoted text>Cultures can change. If you'd look at the rest of the world, maybe you'd notice.
This is a stupid backwards culture/tradition.

“God Bless American”

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#7 May 23, 2008
Jan wrote:
<quoted text>Cultures can change. If you'd look at the rest of the world, maybe you'd notice.
Jesus is the answer no matter what part of the world you live...
Why I Am Not A Muslim

Fate, TX

#8 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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what she did is an ancient bedouin tradition which is prohibited in Islam. stop judging in a rash manner and look at the issue carefully before passing false judgements like what you just did
It is hard to believe that "Saudi Arabian" is unaware that ancient bedouin tradition has no doubt influenced Islam's foundational texts, laws and cultural customs....

Question:

Does Islam require women to cover themselves?

Summary Answer:

Yes. The reason is that it is supposed to curb the sexual appetites of passing men when women travel outside the home. Women are also not allowed to travel by themselves, or be alone with a man who is not a relative.

The Qur'an:

Sura (24:31)- Commands women to "draw their headscarves" over their neckline as well.

Sura (33:59)- "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..."

Sura (24:31)- "And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known." The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men.
Why I Am Not A Muslim

Fate, TX

#9 May 23, 2008
From the Hadith:

Bukhari (6:321)- Muhammad is asked whether it is right for a young woman to leave her house without a veil. He replies, "She should cover herself with the veil of her companion."

Bukhari (60:282)- After Muhammad issued the command (Sura 24:31) for women to cover themselves, the women responded by tearing up sheets to cover their faces.

Abu Dawud (2:641)- The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a veil.

Bukhari (52:250)-[The Prophet said] "It is not permissible for a man to be alone with a woman, and no lady should travel except with a Muhram (i.e. her husband or a person whom she cannot marry in any case for ever; e.g. her father, brother, etc.)." - Neither is a woman allowed to travel by herself.

Additional Notes:

Islamic law (Sharia) clearly requires women to cover themselves. The degree of covering varies with how seriously a Muslim government interprets this, with the Taliban's Afghanistan at one extreme (requiring full burqas) and moderate governments such as Turkey and Tunisia (actually banning headscarves in public buildings) at the other.

The head covering is interpreted as a symbol of male domination by most critics outside the faith, and by many Muslim women, who have been fighting for the right to dress as they please. In December of 2007, a father in Canada beat his 16-year-old daughter to death for refusing to wear the hijab (headscarf).

Some insist that the veil is not mandated by the religion, although they do not have anything within the sacred texts to counter the passages in which Muhammad instructed its use. In fact, verse 24:60 says that the veil is only optional for unmarried women who are too old to have children, and even then the freedom to uncover the head is discouraged.

There are also many Muslim women who have come to rely on the veil as a protection against unwanted male attention. Some even describe it as 'liberating.'

In the West, the veil is gradually becoming a chic statement of political protest. Veils and burqas are becoming more common in Muslim countries with the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/007-v...
fed up with the mess

United States

#10 May 23, 2008
Why I Am Not A Muslim wrote:
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It is hard to believe that "Saudi Arabian" is unaware that ancient bedouin tradition has no doubt influenced Islam's foundational texts, laws and cultural customs....
Question:
Does Islam require women to cover themselves?
Summary Answer:
Yes. The reason is that it is supposed to curb the sexual appetites of passing men when women travel outside the home. Women are also not allowed to travel by themselves, or be alone with a man who is not a relative.
The Qur'an:
Sura (24:31)- Commands women to "draw their headscarves" over their neckline as well.
Sura (33:59)- "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..."
Sura (24:31)- "And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known." The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men.
Men should curb their own sexual appetites. Men are animals and should cover their eyes with a veil.

“the baby who would be king!!!!”

Since: Jan 07

fort worth

#11 May 23, 2008
fed up with the mess wrote:
that is what they get for following a phony religion with phony man made up rules!
that defines each and every religion that has ever existed and exists now
fed up with the mess

United States

#12 May 23, 2008
scuter pie wrote:
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that defines each and every religion that has ever existed and exists now
Follow Jesus and his teachings. Religion is man made. follow JESUS!
Anti-Jihad

New Orleans, LA

#13 May 23, 2008
Islam: Stupidities Galore ...... ha ha

Since: Dec 06

Jidah

#14 May 23, 2008
fed up with the mess wrote:
<quoted text>Follow Jesus and his teachings. Religion is man made. follow JESUS!
you say religion is man-made
then suddenly you want us to follow Jesus the Christ.

Muslims believe in Jesus the Christ and that he's in heaven and will descend to earth later to save the world from the anti-Christ.

“the baby who would be king!!!!”

Since: Jan 07

fort worth

#15 May 23, 2008
fed up with the mess wrote:
<quoted text>Follow Jesus and his teachings. Religion is man made. follow JESUS!
see my previous post
fed up with the mess

United States

#16 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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you say religion is man-made
then suddenly you want us to follow Jesus the Christ.
Muslims believe in Jesus the Christ and that he's in heaven and will descend to earth later to save the world from the anti-Christ.
Jesus is the savior and will return for those that belong to him. Is that you??
fed up with the mess

United States

#17 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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you say religion is man-made
then suddenly you want us to follow Jesus the Christ.
Muslims believe in Jesus the Christ and that he's in heaven and will descend to earth later to save the world from the anti-Christ.
Its not Jesus the Christ. Jesus is the savior. Read and learn about him. islam is false with false prophets and teachings. islam incourages backwards practices that are man made for men. they treat women like property.

Since: Dec 06

Jidah

#18 May 23, 2008
scuter pie wrote:
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that defines each and every religion that has ever existed and exists now
i find your statement interesting. humans can not live without a religion/ideology.

i mean that the idea of denying religions and saying that they are wrong .. that idea itself is a religion/ideology.:)
fed up with the mess

United States

#19 May 23, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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i find your statement interesting. humans can not live without a religion/ideology.
i mean that the idea of denying religions and saying that they are wrong .. that idea itself is a religion/ideology.:)
Women don't even have the right to drive in Saudi do they? How backwards!!

Since: Dec 06

Jidah

#20 May 23, 2008
fed up with the mess wrote:
<quoted text>Women don't even have the right to drive in Saudi do they? How backwards!!
women in KSA drive cars outside cities in villages and small towns without any form of restriction. only inside large dangerous full-of-drifters cities like Riyadh is where you wont find women driving.

eventually it will be allowed by the end of this year.

the backwardness is in who sees the faults of the other societies but can't see and doesn't admit the faults in his own society.

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