Syria pledges dawn truce, if rebels h...

Syria pledges dawn truce, if rebels hold fire

There are 19 comments on the Canada.com story from Apr 11, 2012, titled Syria pledges dawn truce, if rebels hold fire. In it, Canada.com reports that:

United Nations and Arab League envoy for the crisis in Syria, Kofi Annan speaks during a joint press conference with Iranian Minister for Foreign Affairs Ali Akbar Salehi in Tehran on April 11, 2012.

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Syrian

Carlsbad, CA

#1 Apr 11, 2012
Finally, peace at last!! Those rebels better cut the crap, honor the ceasefire, and stop fighting as well.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#2 Apr 11, 2012
I know it would be nice to blame one side and let them control the destiny of the situation, but do not hold your breath, it is morning there already and the bombing is continuing, so I do not think the rebels have bombs.

Most people knew there would be no peace as Assad is now between a rock and a hard spot, he can keep on fighting and stay in pseudo control or cease fire and be arrested for war crimes, not and easy choice
ObserverTM

United States

#3 Apr 11, 2012
What's the tipping point for war crimes in your opinion?

10?

100?

1,000?

10,000

I think the ICC may not be clear on the issue.

Also, do you think that there's a 'collateral damage' clause that may apply, or is that to be used strictly in 'unique' circumstances?

Also, do you think that rather than a fixed casualty threshold, that a ratio of combatant to civilian fatalities would be the better measure, and if so...what might that be?

Or.....let's just keep the issue muddy, so that it can be applied on a selective basis without raising too many eyebrows.

What d'ya think?
sheila

Australia

#4 Apr 11, 2012
ObserverTM wrote:
What's the tipping point for war crimes in your opinion?
10?
100?
1,000?
10,000
I think the ICC may not be clear on the issue.
Also, do you think that there's a 'collateral damage' clause that may apply, or is that to be used strictly in 'unique' circumstances?
Also, do you think that rather than a fixed casualty threshold, that a ratio of combatant to civilian fatalities would be the better measure, and if so...what might that be?
Or.....let's just keep the issue muddy, so that it can be applied on a selective basis without raising too many eyebrows.
What d'ya think?
If you are relying on stats whose are you going believe and how will they be verified? Death and destruction is death and destruction.
CNN

United States

#5 Apr 11, 2012
sheila wrote:
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If you are relying on stats whose are you going believe and how will they be verified? Death and destruction is death and destruction.
We always verify our stats on Syria, as well as other conflicts of interest, by demanding verification by two rebel sources.
sheila

Australia

#6 Apr 11, 2012
CNN wrote:
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We always verify our stats on Syria, as well as other conflicts of interest, by demanding verification by two rebel sources.
Who is we?
CNN

United States

#7 Apr 11, 2012
sheila wrote:
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Who is we?
Why, the hardworking staff at CNN of course.

Of course, if the government in question has been deemed an ally to our interests by Congress, we always verify our stories by two government sources. It's all been working out quite nicely for us so far.
sheila

Australia

#8 Apr 11, 2012
CNN wrote:
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Why, the hardworking staff at CNN of course.
Of course, if the government in question has been deemed an ally to our interests by Congress, we always verify our stories by two government sources. It's all been working out quite nicely for us so far.
Sounds like a load of bull to me!!!!LOL
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#9 Apr 12, 2012
Syrian wrote:
Finally, peace at last!! Those rebels better cut the crap, honor the ceasefire, and stop fighting as well.
No Kidding! Really?? Tell that to Assad! Furthermore, Assad needs to get a new Paid propagandist for the LA district because you are one blooming idiot!
ObserverTM

United States

#10 Apr 13, 2012
Well, I guess we know Annan's plan is holding so far, since we don't hear anything about it on CNN. LOL
CNN

United States

#11 Apr 13, 2012
Not to worry. We're monitoring it 24/7 and as soon as any cracks appear, we have headlines ready. We may even initiate one or two ourselves. It's called 'progressive journalism'. ;-)
Blah-Blah

United States

#12 Apr 13, 2012
Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>No Kidding! Really?? Tell that to Assad! Furthermore, Assad needs to get a new Paid propagandist for the LA district because you are one blooming idiot!
It's springtime. Idiots are blooming all over this forum. Have you no respect for nature?
George

Red Deer, Canada

#13 Apr 13, 2012
ObserverTM wrote:
What's the tipping point for war crimes in your opinion?
10?
100?
1,000?
10,000
I think the ICC may not be clear on the issue.
Also, do you think that there's a 'collateral damage' clause that may apply, or is that to be used strictly in 'unique' circumstances?
Also, do you think that rather than a fixed casualty threshold, that a ratio of combatant to civilian fatalities would be the better measure, and if so...what might that be?
Or.....let's just keep the issue muddy, so that it can be applied on a selective basis without raising too many eyebrows.
What d'ya think?
When the fighting stops and tallies are taken, interviews of accused are done, then whether it is rebel or Assad's people charges should be done. Even if it is one person killed, tortured, needlessly but on purpose it is a war crime so it will be a big job. The destroying of all the civilian homes is a war crime in itself and there are thousands of witnesses as to who did it as well as who killed the occupants.
ObserverTM

United States

#14 Apr 13, 2012
I agree, but shouldn't this be done for EVERY conflict and applied to ALL parties?

Not just selectively of course, as is the current way.

And of course, I do not exclude Russia, as I'm sure Pouk will accuse me of.

Who was it that so wisely commented that 'selective justice is no justice at all."?

Ball's in your court.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#15 Apr 13, 2012
ObserverTM wrote:
I agree, but shouldn't this be done for EVERY conflict and applied to ALL parties?
Not just selectively of course, as is the current way.
And of course, I do not exclude Russia, as I'm sure Pouk will accuse me of.
Who was it that so wisely commented that 'selective justice is no justice at all."?
Ball's in your court.
You know I agree with you and have to change some of my opinion right now. Maybe instead of the world joining the rebels to defeat Assad, they should be just joining and puttin more pressure on Assad to help make change not worry about kicking him out.

The rebels want change and stability in the are is 50% with Assad, so maybe if the world came up with an agreement that works for Iran, Russia, China, Turkey, Israel, US , UK and the rest of Europe then they can come back to Syria with a unified front to help Syria and Assad run a better system for all Syrians and keep the peace in the middle east. This battle seems like a powder keg with Al Qaeda coming in from Iraq now, Russian, US, British ships, Qatar tanks, Saudi army, Turish army, Iranian army, nothing good will come out of a battle of this magnitude

Israel is not saint either and must be included in a world aid program to causes stability in the area. But that is just my opinion
George

Red Deer, Canada

#16 Apr 13, 2012
Oh, and I guess, I am saying that maybe ICC will have to take a back seat for now and not get too involved while a peace process would be worked on.
Indian PM

United States

#17 Apr 13, 2012
George wrote:
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You know I agree with you and have to change some of my opinion right now. Maybe instead of the world joining the rebels to defeat Assad, they should be just joining and puttin more pressure on Assad to help make change not worry about kicking him out.
That's exactly right. I'm sure his days are numbered anyway and it would be nice to see an orderly transition instead of fomenting chaos with no clue as to what follows, just crossed fingers and hollow promises from the opposition.

Of course, some people always see opportunity in chaos. I in fact do myself but then again, I try not to foment it, just for a chance to gain advantage.
Indian PM

United States

#18 Apr 13, 2012
George wrote:
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Israel is not saint either and must be included in a world aid program to causes stability in the area. But that is just my opinion
Hans Blix had the audacity to propose a nuclear free zone in the middle east. Such a development would likely quiet the Iranians but, the nerve of Blix. Such hubris!
ObserverTM

United States

#19 Apr 13, 2012
Oops, I've been outed!

LOL

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