On this Day: Bolsheviks Murder Czar Nicholas II and Family

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On July 17, 1918, Russian Czar Nicholas II and his immediate family were executed by Bolsheviks in the cellar of Ipatiev House in Ekaterinburg, ending the Romanov dynasty.

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jennifer

Sparta, TN

#1 Feb 18, 2009
i was doing a report for my high school techer and this sit was the one i got the most help one
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#2 Feb 18, 2009
Only one I feel sorry for is the Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov the guy had Haemophilia so how sick for Lenin to execute ill people.
Jazz singer

UK

#3 Feb 19, 2009
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
Only one I feel sorry for is the Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov the guy had Haemophilia so how sick for Lenin to execute ill people.
Maybe you are too ignorant to understand that as long as a Romanov was alive, there was possibility of restoration and therefore a threat to the revolution. That's why removing them was so important.

The execution of the Tsar and his family completely destroyed the cause ot the White counter-revolution and insured the bolshevik success.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4 Feb 19, 2009
Jazz singer wrote:
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Maybe you are too ignorant to understand that as long as a Romanov was alive, there was possibility of restoration and therefore a threat to the revolution. That's why removing them was so important.
The execution of the Tsar and his family completely destroyed the cause ot the White counter-revolution and insured the bolshevik success.
Oh so how nice of you to make excuses. So it is ok to kill ill people? So I guess you support Lenin and the bolshevik success? Are you a communist? Fact is that the kid was ill and it is a cowardly thing to do that to an ill person and only cowards like you would do something like that.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#5 Feb 19, 2009
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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Fact is that the kid was ill and it is a cowardly thing to do that to an ill person and only cowards like you would do something like that.
I really can't understand you. Do you means that if somebody is healthy - he can be killed, but if he's ill - he can't? His sisters were killed too, but that isn't serious for you, because they weren't ill? I don't understand how the illness can play a role there. It wasn't a boxing match or a duel. It was a murdering for the concrete purpose of Lenin and his band and nothing more. He wanted the no way back. And he cut this way back killing czar and his family.

But I can't say who is more responsible for what happened - Lenin or czar Nicholas II. Because czar's internal and foreign policy resulted in revolution. He was a loser in everything and everywhere. And his dynasty fall because of that, his children paid the price by their lives for czar's incompetence.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#6 Feb 19, 2009
coolncrazy wrote:
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I really can't understand you. Do you means that if somebody is healthy - he can be killed, but if he's ill - he can't? His sisters were killed too, but that isn't serious for you, because they weren't ill? I don't understand how the illness can play a role there. It wasn't a boxing match or a duel. It was a murdering for the concrete purpose of Lenin and his band and nothing more. He wanted the no way back. And he cut this way back killing czar and his family.
But I can't say who is more responsible for what happened - Lenin or czar Nicholas II. Because czar's internal and foreign policy resulted in revolution. He was a loser in everything and everywhere. And his dynasty fall because of that, his children paid the price by their lives for czar's incompetence.
It isa cowardly thing to kill an ill person. All that talk about communism helping people and than doing that to an ill person. The poor boy had no way to defend himself.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#7 Feb 19, 2009
coolncrazy wrote:
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I really can't understand you. Do you means that if somebody is healthy - he can be killed, but if he's ill - he can't? His sisters were killed too, but that isn't serious for you, because they weren't ill? I don't understand how the illness can play a role there. It wasn't a boxing match or a duel. It was a murdering for the concrete purpose of Lenin and his band and nothing more. He wanted the no way back. And he cut this way back killing czar and his family.
But I can't say who is more responsible for what happened - Lenin or czar Nicholas II. Because czar's internal and foreign policy resulted in revolution. He was a loser in everything and everywhere. And his dynasty fall because of that, his children paid the price by their lives for czar's incompetence.
But the whole thing caused Civil War in Russia and Finland millions died. Lenin build the Revolution with blood and Cheka finished the job. ;)

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#8 Feb 19, 2009
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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It isa cowardly thing to kill an ill person. All that talk about communism helping people and than doing that to an ill person. The poor boy had no way to defend himself.
I see not a word above about, as you said "communism helping people". All the talk have nothing in common with it. Ill or not ill - he had no chance. What do you think is "not cowardly"? To give him a gun and organize a duel? Such things can happen only in stupid movies, but not in reality. The boy was a possible threat for the new regime (which was not better than previous regime)- and this new regime solved the problem by the most effective way.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#9 Feb 19, 2009
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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But the whole thing caused Civil War in Russia and Finland millions died. Lenin build the Revolution with blood and Cheka finished the job. ;)
And who is responsible? Lenin himself or previous leader of the country whose ruling was so "wonderful" that Lenin got the chance?
Jazz singer

UK

#10 Feb 19, 2009
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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Oh so how nice of you to make excuses. So it is ok to kill ill people? So I guess you support Lenin and the bolshevik success? Are you a communist? Fact is that the kid was ill and it is a cowardly thing to do that to an ill person and only cowards like you would do something like that.
Or you are extremely naive, or you are deliberately provocative. I prefer the second option.

Making excuse? Who says I make excuse? YOU !!
If you can’t understand the posts, just say so.

Revolutions are by nature violent; I thought that you could understand that much at least!!

Therefore, in revolution times, there is no rule, no morality, no nice people, everything turns pretty ugly.

I thought you could at least understand that a revolution is not a pic-nic or social work: it's bloody, crual, unfair, undescriminate and extreme.

Sick or not, the Tsarevitch was still a potential rallying point for the monarchists, the Whites and the counter-revolution: it was their hope.
By killing the Tsar and his heir, the bolsheviks solved the problem.

The French Revolution did the same with the King and his family. I would say that it is expected from a revolution to be extreme.

Trotsky said at the time the Tsar was executed, that it was the 'point of no return' for Russia.

Also, please don't make the mistake of thinking that Tsarism was a benign regime; it was autocratic, arbitrary and violent as well. Why do you think the revolution came about?

Secret police, gulags, executions, labour camps and all existed under the Tsars!!
jake

Brighton, UK

#11 Mar 20, 2009
there are many theorys about what happend to the romanovs and i have one of my own which is backed up by reserch. if some of the romanovs servived it is most likely to have been tatiana and anastasia.
Jazz singer

UK

#12 Mar 20, 2009
jake wrote:
there are many theorys about what happend to the romanovs and i have one of my own which is backed up by reserch. if some of the romanovs servived it is most likely to have been tatiana and anastasia.
Really ?

Well, that's interesting, isn't it?

These skeletons they recovered whose are they then?

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#13 Mar 20, 2009
Technically speaking Nicholay Romanov wasn't tsar at the moment. He abdicated in early 1917 - months before the October Revolution.
Daniel Mayes

Hamilton, OH

#14 May 11, 2009
coooool
David

Sugar Land, TX

#17 Aug 31, 2010
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
Only one I feel sorry for is the Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov the guy had Haemophilia so how sick for Lenin to execute ill people.
I see that you mean it's Ok to execute people that are not sick. Well, as sick as you are, then maybe no one will execute you. What a shame!
Live Free or Die

Laconia, NH

#18 Sep 1, 2010
jennifer wrote:
i was doing a report for my high school techer and this sit was the one i got the most help one
Looks to me like you need to spend more time in English class.

No offense.
Live Free or Die

Laconia, NH

#19 Sep 1, 2010
Bycha wrote:
Technically speaking Nicholay Romanov wasn't tsar at the moment. He abdicated in early 1917 - months before the October Revolution.
Bastards overthrew a nascent constitutional democracy.

Too little, too late, too many lame ducks. History marches on.
Live Free or Die

Laconia, NH

#20 Sep 1, 2010
jake wrote:
there are many theorys about what happend to the romanovs and i have one of my own which is backed up by reserch. if some of the romanovs servived it is most likely to have been tatiana and anastasia.
Let me guess. They emigrated to France and founded the Bourbon dynasty.
asdf

Ankara, Turkey

#24 Nov 17, 2010
romanovs have got a noble girl baby.they sent the baby to rasputins relatives in the wine basket (under the botles) They were take her bulgaria and they were give her a turkish family(bektashi religions(she did not make,join rutiels all her lifelong)).the turkish family grove her.one day she maried and her husband and their 6 suns,2 douthers went in turkey 1953 and she died in turkey. she said again and again “I am gallers princess”all her lifelong. may be feodravna or may be one members of the OTMA was mother of the baby who can belive but god knows
I bless you

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