Russia rewriting Josef Stalin's legacy

Russia rewriting Josef Stalin's legacy

There are 122 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Dec 17, 2008, titled Russia rewriting Josef Stalin's legacy. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

A rally this month celebrating the 1936 adoption of Josef Stalin's Soviet Constitution illustrates his rising stock among some Russians.

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doityourselfweat her com

United States

#1 Dec 17, 2008
This is great news to the New York Times.
The NYT loved Stalin! So this Russian movement helps them to justify their overt Left leanings.
During Stalin's reign the NYT had nothing but glowing adulation for him. Hell, the NYT wouldn't even report on Hitler's concentration camps, for what that's worth, because the NYT viewed Hitler as a Lefty (so it's reported).
Matti

Finland

#2 Dec 17, 2008
The reaction of official Russia is really shameful if they let the police to confiscate documents releaving Stalin's crimes!
Just like Germany would start to confiscate documents revealing Hitler's crimes.
Why is Russia's president or prime minister not intervening,(or are they in reality supporting this)?
Matti

Finland

#3 Dec 17, 2008
Sorry should read revealing not releaving!
Rich

United States

#4 Dec 17, 2008
Nice, Killing 20 million of his (Stalin) own people isn't a problem for Putin. I guess we know what he is all about. If anyone thinks Russia still isn't our enemy they are being a bit naive
What Would Obama Do

North Branford, CT

#5 Dec 17, 2008
Stalin was FDR's best friend. Their private correspondence has never been published. FDR was MUCH closer to Stalin than to Churchill. Stalin assassinated Huey Long, on behalf of FDR. Huey Long was an American Patriot, while FDR was a closet Bolshevik.

FDR is Obama's idol. So is Stalin.

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#6 Dec 17, 2008
Rich wrote:
Nice, Killing 20 million ... If anyone thinks Russia still isn't our enemy they are being a bit naive
Can you pleace explain how did you come to such conclusion?
Slick

Woodbridge, Canada

#7 Dec 17, 2008
Stalin was a mass murderer there is little doubt.
The Russian government now are trying to hide the crimes and rewrite history once again what's new?
He kills 20 million of his own and he is considered a good guy by half the polled Russians in the article.
It gives you a good idea about Russian mentality.

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#8 Dec 17, 2008
Slick wrote:
Stalin was a mass murderer there is little doubt.
The Russian government now are trying to hide the crimes and rewrite history once again what's new?
He kills 20 million of his own and he is considered a good guy by half the polled Russians in the article.
It gives you a good idea about Russian mentality.
Stalin and Beria were Georgians, just like Saakashvili. The Russians were merely one of the captive nations within the Soviet Union.
Agreed?

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#9 Dec 17, 2008
Matti wrote:
The reaction of official Russia is really shameful if they let the police to confiscate documents releaving Stalin's crimes!
Just like Germany would start to confiscate documents revealing Hitler's crimes.
Why is Russia's president or prime minister not intervening,(or are they in reality supporting this)?
If neo-nazis in Frankfurt were caught by the police distributing literature about Hitler and the Holocaust...

Would they not confiscate?

Since: Aug 08

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Dec 17, 2008
Rich wrote:
Nice, Killing 20 million of his (Stalin) own people isn't a problem for Putin. I guess we know what he is all about. If anyone thinks Russia still isn't our enemy they are being a bit naive
a rather naive statement dont you think?

Since: Aug 08

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Dec 17, 2008
Slick wrote:
Stalin was a mass murderer there is little doubt.
The Russian government now are trying to hide the crimes and rewrite history once again what's new?
He kills 20 million of his own and he is considered a good guy by half the polled Russians in the article.
It gives you a good idea about Russian mentality.
you obviously have no idea about russian mentality, history, or anything other than a naive view on ths subject. stalin wasnt russian, nor was he the leader of "russia". he was a georgian leader of ussr. russian govt is not trying to "rewrite" hisotry.. ukrianes, geirgians, and the baltic states governments have been and are. we know who stalin was and what he did. people in my family were either arrested and never seen again or stripped of homes, properties, etc.. you were saying something about our mentality? naive is thinking russia attacked georgia, or that georgia is a democracy, or the missle systems are "anti-iran", or that ukraine needs/wants nato, or US was right to meddle with iraq, afganistan, chavez, etc.. stalin was a murdere and there is NO doubt, not little. every russian knows this. they are not trying to "hide" something that cannot be hidden.

Since: Aug 08

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Dec 17, 2008
uther pendragon wrote:
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If neo-nazis in Frankfurt were caught by the police distributing literature about Hitler and the Holocaust...
Would they not confiscate?
frankfurt or tallinn? lol
Florida Nutmegger

Palm Coast, FL

#13 Dec 17, 2008
Rich wrote:
Nice, Killing 20 million of his (Stalin) own people isn't a problem for Putin. I guess we know what he is all about. If anyone thinks Russia still isn't our enemy they are being a bit naive
Not too far off the mark, IMO!
Do not forget, good people, that Putin, for all of the Washington hogwash attempts to cannonize him, was a full Colonel in the dreaded KGB of the Soviet Union. He still retains power enough to cause many of his personal enemies grave problems.
The disolution of the Soviet Union did nothing about taking the reigns of power from the old Soviet guard. They are alive and well in the halls of the Russian government today! The rewriting of history is an old tactic and while we look to the Russian people to recognize and dispute the accuracy of the records remember that under the guise of Democracy the old Soviet Union still lives.
As I said, the rewriting of history is an old ploy and you will have to look no further than Japan right now which is actively rewriting the history of their atrocities in China, Korea, and the other countries of the Far East. Their modern history books make them out to be the saviors and victims of the United States aggression.
And the beat goes on.

Since: Aug 08

Brooklyn, NY

#14 Dec 17, 2008
Florida Nutmegger wrote:
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Not too far off the mark, IMO!
Do not forget, good people, that Putin, for all of the Washington hogwash attempts to cannonize him, was a full Colonel in the dreaded KGB of the Soviet Union. He still retains power enough to cause many of his personal enemies grave problems.
The disolution of the Soviet Union did nothing about taking the reigns of power from the old Soviet guard. They are alive and well in the halls of the Russian government today! The rewriting of history is an old tactic and while we look to the Russian people to recognize and dispute the accuracy of the records remember that under the guise of Democracy the old Soviet Union still lives.
As I said, the rewriting of history is an old ploy and you will have to look no further than Japan right now which is actively rewriting the history of their atrocities in China, Korea, and the other countries of the Far East. Their modern history books make them out to be the saviors and victims of the United States aggression.
And the beat goes on.
do you need a list of who is rewriting history and how?
there are 140 million people in russia, and all know who stalin was better than anyone.. so you are suggesting that new misinformation will be magically installed into everyones brains, all history books, internet sources, etc... thats some wild imagination i must say.. hey on the other hand, mccains speech "we are all georgians" while accepting money from georgia and supporting and covering up genocide while reporting lies is something that goes on regularly and remains un-punished here in the states.. talk about rewriting history, or should i say making it up to begin wtih... add to that georgias entrance into ussr, holodomor in ukraine, stalins secret russian ethnicity, misinterpretation of everything about ww2, serbia, attack on s.ossetia, etc.. and you really have quiet the version of rewritten history... as the soviets broke up, the west picked up

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#15 Dec 17, 2008
Pravda wrote:
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frankfurt or tallinn? lol
In Tallinn only if it was anti-Hitler and anti-Holocaust.:)
Gov Blagobich

Basking Ridge, NJ

#16 Dec 17, 2008
Florida Nutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
Not too far off the mark, IMO!
Do not forget, good people, that Putin, for all of the Washington hogwash attempts to cannonize him, was a full Colonel in the dreaded KGB of the Soviet Union. He still retains power enough to cause many of his personal enemies grave problems.
The disolution of the Soviet Union did nothing about taking the reigns of power from the old Soviet guard. They are alive and well in the halls of the Russian government today! The rewriting of history is an old tactic and while we look to the Russian people to recognize and dispute the accuracy of the records remember that under the guise of Democracy the old Soviet Union still lives.
As I said, the rewriting of history is an old ploy and you will have to look no further than Japan right now which is actively rewriting the history of their atrocities in China, Korea, and the other countries of the Far East. Their modern history books make them out to be the saviors and victims of the United States aggression.
And the beat goes on.
I agree.

The Russian people seem to be addicted to having homicidal murderers running their country.

As long as they make the trains run on time the Russian people don't care how many people they kill!
Red

Kirkland Lake, Canada

#17 Dec 17, 2008
Gov Blagobich wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.
The Russian people seem to be addicted to having homicidal murderers running their country.
As long as they make the trains run on time the Russian people don't care how many people they kill!
Isn't it sickening and disgusting how much the Russian people seem to enjoy genocidal tyrants like Stalin and Lenin becuase they advanced Russian imperialism and expansionism?

Look at this revolting and ugly display:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0b6sbG3aQ...
Matti

Finland

#18 Dec 18, 2008
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
If neo-nazis in Frankfurt were caught by the police distributing literature about Hitler and the Holocaust...
Would they not confiscate?
In Germany pro-Hitler demonstarations and organizations are not tolerated.
Against-Hitler organizations are supported and get monetary subsidies from the state.

In Russia if you try to tell about the bad things of Stalin and collect information of Stalin's wrong doings you are punished and humiliated by police. Just the opposite what happens in Germany.

In Russia Stalin seems to be a real hero for present political leadership. That is really shameful!

Some typical Stalin's crimes for example also were, that he did attack independent Finland in 1939, before it in 1937 he started genocide against Finns inside Russia in Karelian SSR which was Finnish speaking part of USSR and had done economically well. Finns were killed in big masses just for the reason they were Finns, they were not alloved to speak Finish, they were moved from their homes, Russians refused to give them work etc. And all of them were true communists, who tried to build and help the workers paradice USSR escaped and had for political reasons escaped to Russia from Finland, USA and Canada.
Slick

Woodbridge, Canada

#19 Dec 18, 2008
Pravda wrote:
<quoted text>
you obviously have no idea about russian mentality, history, or anything other than a naive view on ths subject. stalin wasnt russian, nor was he the leader of "russia". he was a georgian leader of ussr. russian govt is not trying to "rewrite" hisotry.. ukrianes, geirgians, and the baltic states governments have been and are. we know who stalin was and what he did. people in my family were either arrested and never seen again or stripped of homes, properties, etc.. you were saying something about our mentality? naive is thinking russia attacked georgia, or that georgia is a democracy, or the missle systems are "anti-iran", or that ukraine needs/wants nato, or US was right to meddle with iraq, afganistan, chavez, etc.. stalin was a murdere and there is NO doubt, not little. every russian knows this. they are not trying to "hide" something that cannot be hidden.
If they are not trying to hide anything why are the Russian police storming the office confiscating the hard drives,computers etc in the article?
Hitler was Austrian but i don't see the blame being put on Austria do you?
Catherine the Great was not born in Russia but she was adopted by the Russian people.

Since: Aug 08

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Dec 18, 2008
Gov Blagobich wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.
The Russian people seem to be addicted to having homicidal murderers running their country.
As long as they make the trains run on time the Russian people don't care how many people they kill!
you mean sort of like americans with bush/chaney etc...
no i must say i disagree..
or wait, you're albanian, you must be talking about ethnic cleansing of the serbs.. yeah... no .. i still disagree... sorry

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