Russia puts end to gas wars

Russia puts end to gas wars

There are 128 comments on the rt.com story from Sep 16, 2011, titled Russia puts end to gas wars. In it, rt.com reports that:

Russia has brought to an end the long-running debate over securing gas supplies to the EU, bringing all its European partners together to sign the landmark agreement giving the green light to construction of the South Stream gas pipeline.

The first day of the annual International Investment Forum in Sochi has been dominated by European energy giants signing up for the ambitious project.­

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“UG X”

Since: Jan 09

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#123 Sep 18, 2011
ronan wrote:
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So thoughful from Mr "Two Degrees" Amicus.
You really show how stupid you can be at your best ...
On the contrary, his sense of humor is refreshing and sharp! The very fact that you reacted to it immediately is a prove of it! Ouch!
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#124 Sep 18, 2011
On holiday wrote:
Thorium-based liquid-fuelled reactor technology. Now, this is a low polluting, low radioactive alternative maybe the future. It potentially produces waste material 1,000 times less dangerous than the hazardous waste produced by uranium reactors. The thorium reactor design also makes overheating and chain reactions (meltdowns)impossible.
The Chinese are onto it. Hopefully the West is too (it was their idea anyway, "decades" ago).
Thorium might be an interim solution for baseload, yes.
But it is not a panacea. Not even a thermonuclear powerplant is.
For any new nuclear tech to be successful, it has to be cheaper than the current muclear tech, it has to be more safe, and it has to be scaled down several orders of magnitude. Concentrated power plants have already used up most suitable places - for example France has major issues with nuclear plants during summer heat waves already now, just imagine if the climate will warm another +5C.

Estonia has thorium reserves.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#126 Sep 18, 2011
Stefan wrote:
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Your talk is hollow. Can a chemical plant lose power in the middle of the day?
Smart grid will slowly eliminate the need for baseload.
And btw, hydro by itself should be enough for baseload.
Stefan wrote:
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Can a subway system stop in the middle of a tunnel?
Why would you think that a subway has to use an electric motor?
Passengers can pedal their own carts. Pedaling on railroad has much less friction + no wind in tunnels. A tandem or a quad passenger cycle cart (with a trike or a quad recumbent layout) can easily reach similar speeds (90 kmh).
An electric assist motor is also an option. If electricity goes, you pedal your way out.
Stefan wrote:
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Can a school's lights go on and off 5 times a day.
With a passivehaus design, each class has enough window area to provide enough light for classes even during winter time. No need for artificial light assist.
Stefan wrote:
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Basepower is essential, every expert agrees.
An old school of thought, not applicable in the future.
Stefan wrote:
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Do you plan to run everything off of batteries?
Future energy sector will be much more diversified than today.

The bright future of solar powered factories:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/8217
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#127 Sep 18, 2011
ronan wrote:
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By the way, MODERN coal, oil and gas powerplant can be made almost pollution free; it's costly, but it can be done.
It can't be done.
The EROEI of such solutions is close to 1.

Carbon sequestration in coal plants is a pipe dream.
The coal companies themselves have given up on the idea, although they still pocket government money to "research" it.
ronan wrote:
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Wind power is extremely costly, it has been found, and not very reliable either.
BS.
But that is to be expected from a person involved in the business of fossil fuels.
Warrior Poet UG X

Idanha, OR

#128 Sep 18, 2011
Thanks to all the contributors which I read. It is truly hilarious to see all these people, all of whom know everything, and NONE of whom will have any effect whtsoever on the new piplines. Thank you for the belly laughs. YOu are all so talented at tilting at windmills.

Idi Ukraina
Dr Steelhammer

Calgary, Canada

#129 Sep 18, 2011
Warrior Poet UG X

Idanha, OR

#130 Sep 18, 2011
Solar power sure looks good, especially for those who live in higher latitutdes and elevations. When the collectors are not coveed by snow ( would proably take more energy to melt off the snow than the ollectors could produce) they would be in long
periods of darkness. Solr has possibilities but it is NOT the cure-all that its boosters would claim.

Since: Apr 11

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#131 Sep 19, 2011
Pesky army wrote:
The end of Ukrainka┬┤s near.
Just close the final curtain. More beggars in Kiev will be seen.
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Spastic Plonker Pesky.

Slovak peasant wind-bag.

Squealing his stupid nonsense.

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