Exiled Polish president's body miside...

Exiled Polish president's body misidentified in Smolensk crash probe

There are 151 comments on the Warsaw Voice story from Oct 25, 2012, titled Exiled Polish president's body misidentified in Smolensk crash probe. In it, Warsaw Voice reports that:

Forensic data have confirmed that the body of another Smolensk crash victim, the last Polish president-in-exile, Ryszard Kaczorowski, which was exhumed last Monday, had been misidentified and mistakenly buried in the wrong grave, some Polish media reported.

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mika brzezinski UG

West Palm Beach, FL

#1 Oct 25, 2012
Seen one body wrapped around a birch tree...
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#2 Oct 25, 2012
mika brzezinski UG wrote:
Seen one body wrapped around a birch tree...
Why are you so obsessed on what happened in Russia years ago and always sympathetic of Russia if you're not of Russian ancestry??

What American of non-Russian ancestry has your obssession with events in Russia?

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#3 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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Why are you so obsessed on what happened in Russia years ago and always sympathetic of Russia if you're not of Russian ancestry??
What American of non-Russian ancestry has your obssession with events in Russia?
Yes, I am sure most Russian CHRISTIANS really care about Poland being Anti Semitic & really care about beating a drum about Poland being behind the Holocaust.

Most Russians either

1. don't care about Anti Semtiism or the Holocaust.

2. Are actually Anti Semitic.
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#4 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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Yes, I am sure most Russian CHRISTIANS really care about Poland being Anti Semitic & really care about beating a drum about Poland being behind the Holocaust.
Most Russians either
1. don't care about Anti Semtiism or the Holocaust.
2. Are actually Anti Semitic.
Oh yes and I'm sure when a person puts out sound bites and throw away lines that he condemns anti-semitism.....that PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that he cares about Jews and anti-semtism. LOL YES YES especially when he has been making many anti-semitic comments himself over the years like how Jews are behind communism and many anti-semitic remarks similar to yours.

Of course a hardcore Russian nationalist would never try to trash Poles with Jewish accusations of "Polish-anti-semitism " just like we can see they would NEVER trash Polish people with mostly Jewish promoted Dumb "Polak Jokes". Yes Yes they would never use Jewish inspired anti-Polish slurs. In fact your good Russian pal Alexey if proof of that! LOL

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#5 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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Of course a hardcore Russian nationalist would never try to trash Poles with Jewish accusations of "Polish-anti-semitism "
Alexey is a real Russian Nationalist here probably the only one.

Alexey never pulled anything against Poland as being Anti Semitic or behind the Holocaust.

Actually Alexey pretty much agreed with me & went along with my Anti Semitism.

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I am a Polish Nationalist & I never use Anti Semtiism or the Holocaust against peopel.

When I talk about Germans / Nazi Germany I don't cry about dead Jews.

I am pissed that so many Slavic people & Slavic cities, art & culture were destroyed by Germans / German Nazis.

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Alexey has hated Poland from the Russian point of view like 1610 , POolish people sometimes supporting Chechens or the Caucasus region too much in despite of Russia as pissing him off.

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Uther & Pesky speak of their Anti Polish views from the Jewish perspective & it is strikingly obvious to me.

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Alxey can also go on about Russian history in depth Uther can't Uther isn't a real Russian Nationalist I don't know why you have thought this.

Uther seems to actually be a JEWISH Nationalist which is why he has been on typical JEWISH Nationalist account names like Bar Refaeli & Etzi Ginzburg which are 2 Jewish Israeli models SUPPORTED & PRAISED BY JEWISH NATIONALISTS.

Uther hasn't even really defended Russia as a Russian Nationalist.

Uther's use of Bar Refaeli & Etzi Ginzberg is very typical of JEWISH Nationalists.
ACTUALLY I LEARNED ABOUT Bar Refaeli & Etzi Ginzberg from going at Jewish Nationalists online who praised of Bar Refaeli & Etzi Ginzberg as of Jeiwsh beauty.

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Why you can't see why Uther is so obviously a Jewish Nationalist rather than a Russian Nationalist is beyond me.

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I think you both are 2 similar Jews hell bent on hating on Slavs & dividing & conquering Slavic people & THAT IS SHIT WE ARE BOTH SLAVIC IN THE END

So keep your damn Jew noses out of pushing Slavic on Slavic hatred you fitlhy damn Jews!
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#6 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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Alexey is a real Russian Nationalist here probably the only one.
Alexey never pulled anything against Poland as being Anti Semitic or behind the Holocaust.
Actually Alexey pretty much agreed with me & went along with my Anti Semitism.
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I am a Polish Nationalist & I never use Anti Semtiism or the Holocaust against peopel.
When I talk about Germans / Nazi Germany I don't cry about dead Jews.
Have you seen what the Russian nationalist "Hmmmmm" (from Russia) said about Poles and Ukrainians? He was always quoting Jewish websites like the Simon Wiesenthal and other Jewish websites to show that Ukraine and Poland were more anti-semitic then Russia. Its like he was trying to impress people how "un-anti-semitic" Russia was and is. And don't give me your nonsense that this guy is a "Jew" when everybody here knows he's an ethnic Russian.

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#7 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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Have you seen what the Russian nationalist "Hmmmmm" (from Russia) said about Poles and Ukrainians? He was always quoting Jewish websites like the Simon Wiesenthal and other Jewish websites to show that Ukraine and Poland were more anti-semitic then Russia. Its like he was trying to impress people how "un-anti-semitic" Russia was and is. And don't give me your nonsense that this guy is a "Jew" when everybody here knows he's an ethnic Russian.
My experience has been that other Slavic Nationalists who hate Polish people DO THE OPPOSITE.

Slavic Nationalists who hate Polish people usually call Polish people Jews, or Slavic people mixed with Jew.

Rather than Slavic Nationalists hating Polish people for being Anti Semitic they generally do the opposite & compare Polish people to Jews as an insult!

You kind of comfirmed that yourself with that Slovakian you spoke with comparing Polish people to Jews.

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#8 Oct 25, 2012
Anyways enough is enough.

I said what I had to say & that is that.

No more on dwelling on this don't need this to get out of hand over bullshit anymore. LOL

You are free to hate Uther as a Russian if you wish to that is your right.
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#9 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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Uther & Pesky speak of their Anti Polish views from the Jewish perspective & it is strikingly obvious to me.
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You are so dam naive.

Are you that narrow minded that you think these TROLLS REALLY give 2 shts about Jews???? LOL!!

The ONLY reason why Pesky and uther quote Jewish criticism of Polish people is for ONE REASON and ONE REASON ONLY.......to DRIVE a rabid Polish anti-semite like you CRAZY and get under your skin.

How can you not have figured that out???

When you first came onto this forum you just let loose like a loose cannon with your "I hate Jews because of this" and "I hate Jews because of that" ad nauseum.

Being that they both hate Polish people very much as it is....nothing would make them feel better then to get under a Polish person's skin like your skin...and bash Polish people with JEWISH criticisms of Poles.

Did you know Pesky's and uther's use of Jewish criticism of Poles went up like 300% AFTER YOU CAME to this forum?????

What does that tell you??? HELLOOOOOOOO?????
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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Alxey can also go on about Russian history in depth Uther can't Uther isn't a real Russian Nationalist I don't know why you have thought this.
They are different people who are from different parts of the world. So why must they think exactly the same and have the exact knowledge on things?

I disagree that uther knows little about Russia. He speaks Russian and seems to know a lot about current events and historical events.....like for example what the Russians were thinking in the recent Georgia invasion and during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

What I find absolutely amazing is how he keeps on showing sympathy and concern about Russia....even on topics that don't concern Poland yet you think NOTHING of this.

Like here where he's concerned about Russia's economy and Putin
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/T7GK8...

He shows this grave concern about Russians ALL THE TIME. Especially on the Smolensk crash where he always make sure to bash the Poles after Martix posts an article critical of Russia's handling of the investigation.

WHY you keep ignoring this constant sympathy of Russia he has.....and then say he must be a non-Russian for this.... is just mind boggling.

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#10 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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!!The ONLY reason why Pesky and uther quote Jewish criticism of Polish people is for ONE REASON and ONE REASON ONLY.......to DRIVE a rabid Polish anti-semite like you CRAZY and get under your skin.
How can you not have figured that out???
It seems Uther & Pesky were crying about Poland being Anti Semtiic & being behind the Holocaust before I even came here.

I am pretty sure Uther & Pesky are actually Jews who are angry at Poland.

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I don't know what kind of Slavic people you have dealt with.

1. Slavic people rarely will go out of their way to be manipulative like that for no reason.

2. Slavic people generally don't care about prejudices especially prejudices against Jews & Slavic people are generally prejudice themselves especially against Jews.

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I don't see why you can't see why Uther & Pesky seem so damn Jews.

They don't come off as Slavic what so ever.

Why you don't get this is beyond me.

It seems to be most of the Slavic people you have dealt with have actualy been Slavic Jews & that you seem to think Slavic people tend to be very manipulative & cry about Anti Semitism.

Well, I will tell you this striaght forward like most Slavic people are that most Slavic people don't play these little manipulative shit games or cry about Anti Semtiism.

This is how Jews act!
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#11 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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My experience has been that other Slavic Nationalists who hate Polish people DO THE OPPOSITE.
Slavic Nationalists who hate Polish people usually call Polish people Jews, or Slavic people mixed with Jew.
Rather than Slavic Nationalists hating Polish people for being Anti Semitic they generally do the opposite & compare Polish people to Jews as an insult!
You kind of comfirmed that yourself with that Slovakian you spoke with comparing Polish people to Jews.
Yes but that was one guy. Years ago I knew another Slovak guy (Slovak American not a Slovak immigrant like that other guy) who seemed to enjoy the fact that Hollywood and the TV media as bashing Poles with anti-Polish joke slurs and made anti-Polish slurs himself until I had a little chat with him. Basically I told him the media is generally anti-Slavic so why go along with the biggest American Slavic group being bashed? He then put 2 and 2 together and this seemed to resonate with him.

But you are going by your experiences with people and then extrapolationg that the group of people you experienced in a certain way......are like that everywhere. That just isn't so.

With all due respect, one thing you do that I don't like to do is that you put groups of people in categories.

I have found that it is actually kind of hard to say "in general" group A is like this....group B is like that...etc.

You have bad and good and people in between in every group of people.

Including

Russians
Poles
Slovaks

etc.

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#12 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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What I find absolutely amazing is how he keeps on showing sympathy and concern about Russia....even on topics that don't concern Poland yet you think NOTHING of this.
Uther seems to show sympathy & concern for Mexicans as well.

Uther also openely supported Mexicans taking over & destroying the U.S

Uther may also support Russia for the same reason he supports Mexicans as a means to go against & destroy the U.S.

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Uther had calmed down with me.

Well, untill the other day Uther started going berserk against me out of the blue.

Was it out of the blue?

Because it seemed Uther started going at me again because I went after Mexicans with here.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/poland/TLQ0P...

After I made Anti Mexican comments at comment 497 here & comment 508 here. THEN UTHER STARTED GOING AT ME AGAIN.

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#13 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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Basically I told him the media is generally anti-Slavic so why go along with the biggest American Slavic group being bashed?etc.
Yeah.. true the U.S Jew media is more than just Anti Polish it is also Anti Slavic.

You yourself have admitted to seeing a Dumb Ruskie push in the U.S media in recent times.

You yourself seem to eagerly support & push this yourself.

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I said this only festers as the Dumb Slavic stereotype as both dumb Polaks & dumb Ruskies.

Which doesn't take it off of Polish people.

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It would be much better to push the Dumb jokes onto Blacks who are actually very dumb according to statistical data unlike Slavic people.

Oh yeah but you get upset with me here before for talking about dumb Blacks.

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I think you yourself has sketchy motives.

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I don't think you have such strong convictions towards Polish people as you claim.

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It seems you kind of just want to use Poland to divide & conquer Slavic people against each other as a vindictive, sneaky, manipualtive Jew.
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#14 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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I am pretty sure Uther & Pesky are actually Jews __
LOL....Like other people here have said about you......everyone who you disagree with is either a Brit or a Jew.
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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It seems Uther & Pesky were crying about Poland being Anti Semtiic & being behind the Holocaust before I even came here.
I am pretty sure Uther & Pesky are actually Jews who are angry at Poland.
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I don't know what kind of Slavic people you have dealt with.
1. Slavic people rarely will go out of their way to be manipulative like that for no reason.
2. Slavic people generally don't care about prejudices especially prejudices against Jews & Slavic people are generally prejudice themselves especially against Jews.
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I have already explained this to you a million times.

There is good and bad in ALL groups of people.

The Slavic people who I have experienced were Slavic Americans... WHO HATE Jews... you fool. Please stop it with this weak logic of:

"In general" group A does this and group B does that so therefore ALL of group A does this and ALL of group B does that!!

You are the worst generalizer around here.

To be frank you have a terrible track record of knowing who somebody is. You have already claimed about 6 people here are Brits or Jews who are not. In fact you even went back and forth on these people being Brit vs Jews.

Its interesting how your good Russian pal......after all your hard work trying to be his good Slavic friend.....repayed you by bashing Polish people with Hollywood Jewish dumb "Polak jokes"!!

So much for your ridiculous notion that Slavic people would ONLY put down Poles as being "Jews".

Like I say......which you just have a mental block against.

There is GOOD AND BAD in ALL groups! Even Slavic groups!
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#15 Oct 25, 2012
*your good Russian pal Alexey*

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#16 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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LOL....Like other people here have said about you......everyone who you disagree with is either a Brit or a Jew.
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I give my reasons why I find so many people here are Jews & Brits.

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People on here don't seem Slavic generally most of this forum are a bunch of desperate, OCD, fussy fits who flip out with non stop OCD & so desperately manipulate & act like filth.

People here go chimp shit crying about Anti Semtiism but not other racism much.

Which seems awefully Jewish.

You don't want to acknowledge this because YOU ARE LIKE MOST OF THIS FORUM.

A bunch of slimey OCD filled fussy manipulative Jewish slimeballs.

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Most here don't act Slavic you act like Brits & Jews.
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#17 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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Yeah.. true the U.S Jew media is more than just Anti Polish it is also Anti Slavic.
You yourself have admitted to seeing a Dumb Ruskie push in the U.S media in recent times.
You yourself seem to eagerly support & push this yourself.
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Do you REALLY think there are NOT Slavic people out there who ENJOY the Hollywood pushed "dumb Polak" stereotype?? You really think there aren't Slovak or Russian Americans who don't feel better about themselves when they see Poles bashed in the media?

Well forget about your experiences with Russian and Slovaks...because YES there are some who have a case of Schaudenfruede when they see Poles insulted.

ALL I DO.....is let those Slavic people here who enjoy bashing Poles so that they could feel better about themselves.....KNOW that they too are targets of insults from Hollywood and the TV media.

About 5 years ago....there was a Russian on the Russian forum talking about how American media NEVER portrays Russians as having low intelligence and ONLY portrays Poles as having low intelligence. He was bragging about how "The worst thing American media does to us is make us look like evil criminals". He said I would rather be portrayed as being an "evil criminal" then being dumb like you Polish.

EVER SINCE THEN I searched the internet for Stupid Russia videos to show him that RUSSIANS ALSO were portrayed as being stupid. I never heard from him again. Although maybe he could have morphed into another personality on the Russia forum like that guy "hmmmmm" or that guy "amp".

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#18 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
Its interesting how your good Russian pal......after all your hard work trying to be his good Slavic friend.....repayed you by bashing Polish people with Hollywood Jewish dumb "Polak jokes"!!
So much for your ridiculous notion that Slavic people would ONLY put down Poles as being "Jews".
Like I say......which you just have a mental block against.
There is GOOD AND BAD in ALL groups! Even Slavic groups!
I have gone against Alexey more than you have so why don't you explain this you OCD desperate fussy fit of manipulative Jewish slime.

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I thought we were over this crap.

I already tried to cool it off earlier on here.

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You can't help yourself if I don't agree with you, you start going berserk with desperate OCD fussy fits of temper tantrums like a spoiled little disgusting Jewish brat who doesn't get his way.

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You are obviously just some filthy Jew who wants to turn Slavic people against each other.

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That is why you can't stand that I am not so Anti Russian as you are.

Because your real agenda is hating Russia & using Poland against Russia & other Slavs as your little Jewisb pawn to divide & conquer Slavic people.

Since: Aug 12

Poughquag, NY

#19 Oct 25, 2012
average joe wrote:
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Do you REALLY think there are NOT Slavic people out there who ENJOY the Hollywood pushed "dumb Polak" stereotype?? You really think there aren't Slovak or Russian Americans who don't feel better about themselves when they see Poles bashed in the media?
Well forget about your experiences with Russian and Slovaks...because YES there are some who have a case of Schaudenfruede when they see Poles insulted.
ALL I DO.....is let those Slavic people here who enjoy bashing Poles so that they could feel better about themselves.....KNOW that they too are targets of insults from Hollywood and the TV media.
About 5 years ago....there was a Russian on the Russian forum talking about how American media NEVER portrays Russians as having low intelligence and ONLY portrays Poles as having low intelligence. He was bragging about how "The worst thing American media does to us is make us look like evil criminals". He said I would rather be portrayed as being an "evil criminal" then being dumb like you Polish.
EVER SINCE THEN I searched the internet for Stupid Russia videos to show him that RUSSIANS ALSO were portrayed as being stupid. I never heard from him again. Although maybe he could have morphed into another personality on the Russia forum like that guy "hmmmmm" or that guy "amp".
I like Russian & Slovak Americans generally they are usually Anti Semitic, racist & their women are beautiful.

They usually get along pretty well with us I find it is usually the Western European Americans who conflict with Polish Americans more in my experience.

A lot of times different Slavic groups are pretty tight in the West from my experience.

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I would stand with Slovaks or Russians anyday against those damn aweful disgusting Jews!

All Slavic people should unite against those disgusting repulsive Jews!
average joe

Bridgewater, NJ

#20 Oct 25, 2012
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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I give my reasons why I find so many people here are Jews & Brits.
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People on here don't seem Slavic generally most of this forum are a bunch of desperate, OCD, fussy fits who flip out with non stop OCD & so desperately manipulate & act like filth.
People here go chimp shit crying about Anti Semtiism but not other racism much.
Which seems awefully Jewish.
You don't want to acknowledge this because YOU ARE LIKE MOST OF THIS FORUM.
A bunch of slimey OCD filled fussy manipulative Jewish slimeballs.
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Most here don't act Slavic you act like Brits & Jews.
What you keep failing to grasp is that when anybody goes apesht bashing ANY ethnic group.....even other people not of that ethnic group will defend it. Especially when somebody like yourself comes onto these forums bragging about how you hate 80% of the world's population....Blacks, Jews, Mexicans, West Europeans, etc

How in Gods name do you think you would not get a negative reaction with all your bragging about how racist and hateful you are??

There seems to be a huge diconnect in your mind from reality.

You also keep saying how Slavic people don't mind racist hate talk.

I challenge you to go in front of a Local or State Slavic group and say all the racist hateful things you say here in front of a crowd of them. Video tape it and show us it here.

My prediction is you won't ever do this....because you are wrong about Slavic people being as racist and hateful you are. You are an extremist and you will never be able to go in a Polish AMerican club or Russian American Club or SLovak American club and say in front of a crowd all the racist stuff you say. So you are wrong about your analysis of Slavic people.

There is a big difference between what most Slavic people think and what one or two drunk Slavic people in a bar tell you.

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