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Putin hosts leaders at Finno-Ugric festival, Estonian leaders not invited

There are 76 comments on the PR-inside.com story from Jul 24, 2007, titled Putin hosts leaders at Finno-Ugric festival, Estonian leaders not invited. In it, PR-inside.com reports that:

President Vladimir Putin reached out to Russia's multitude of ethnic groups as he hosted the leaders of Finland and Hungary on Thursday at an elaborate festival to celebrate Finno-Ugric culture. via PR-inside.com

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Anti

Tampere, Finland

#1 Jul 30, 2007
It was Finno-Ugric festival, not Nazi meeting. That's why eSStonian leaders were not invited.
william

Southampton, UK

#2 Jul 30, 2007
Anti wrote:
It was Finno-Ugric festival, not Nazi meeting. That's why eSStonian leaders were not invited.
LMAO !!!
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#3 Jul 31, 2007
Anti wrote:
It was Finno-Ugric festival, not Nazi meeting. That's why eSStonian leaders were not invited.
Oh boy. Isn't Russia the country with the biggest number of skinheads? You are capable to make a Nazi festival and invite Estonian nazis too.
william

Southampton, UK

#4 Jul 31, 2007
Ilascu wrote:
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Oh boy. Isn't Russia the country with the biggest number of skinheads? You are capable to make a Nazi festival and invite Estonian nazis too.
If you can't see the difference between skinheads and Nazis, I suggest you get some education!!
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#5 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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If you can't see the difference between skinheads and Nazis, I suggest you get some education!!
Eh? What is the difference?
william

Southampton, UK

#6 Jul 31, 2007
Ilascu wrote:
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Eh? What is the difference?
If you can't see it, boy, I think that maybe you are not fit to debate on this forum.

Do you know anything about the ideology of National Socialism, or do you just go through life repeating clichés like a parrot, displaying your prejudices and crass ignorance for all to see?
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#7 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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If you can't see it, boy, I think that maybe you are not fit to debate on this forum.
Do you know anything about the ideology of National Socialism, or do you just go through life repeating clichés like a parrot, displaying your prejudices and crass ignorance for all to see?
So tell me what ideology skinheads follow?
Move on

Chelyabinsk, Russia

#8 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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If you can't see it, boy, I think that maybe you are not fit to debate on this forum.
Do you know anything about the ideology of National Socialism, or do you just go through life repeating clichés like a parrot, displaying your prejudices and crass ignorance for all to see?
really, would you please explain the difference? I'm just interested.
william

Southampton, UK

#9 Jul 31, 2007
Move on wrote:
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really, would you please explain the difference? I'm just interested.
National Socialism is a supra-nationalist doctrine proclaiming the superiority of the German race as the "chosen race". It advocate racial purity and recognise the historical right of Germanics to dominate other races. Its aim is to expand the size of the German race by carefull breeding and to ensure sufficient space and resources for that expansion (lebensraum).
This ideology give the right to the German nation to invade countries, enslave their population, eliminate the indesirables and maintain German supremacy.

What that has in common with an undisciplined bunch of nashi, who are not German, have mixed heritage (like most of us), are not racially and politically aware and have too much time on their hands to spend on harrassing foreigners?
We do have skinheads in UK too (less now), but as a fashion, a rebellious gang, we never accorded them any political influence and certainly never mixed them up with Nazis!!!

Nazism died in 1945!!! Get with it!!
Anti

Moscow, Russia

#10 Jul 31, 2007
Ilascu wrote:
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Oh boy. Isn't Russia the country with the biggest number of skinheads? You are capable to make a Nazi festival and invite Estonian nazis too.
Ohhhh...., here is a voice of Moldova, the former Rome Empire. Isn't it? A screem of a semi-Nazi-semi-commy. I will remind you one very popular slogan of Moldavian "democrats": "Sink Russians in Jewish blood!" It was announced by Moldavian state national leaders, not local skinheads. In Russia skinheads are criminals. At the same time fascism-communizzzzm is a natioanal ideology of Moldova. It's the fact. That's why your country is deep in the ass of Europe. Sell your shit vine to democratic countries.
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#11 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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National Socialism is a supra-nationalist doctrine proclaiming the superiority of the German race as the "chosen race". It advocate racial purity and recognise the historical right of Germanics to dominate other races. Its aim is to expand the size of the German race by carefull breeding and to ensure sufficient space and resources for that expansion (lebensraum).
This ideology give the right to the German nation to invade countries, enslave their population, eliminate the indesirables and maintain German supremacy.
What that has in common with an undisciplined bunch of nashi, who are not German, have mixed heritage (like most of us), are not racially and politically aware and have too much time on their hands to spend on harrassing foreigners?
We do have skinheads in UK too (less now), but as a fashion, a rebellious gang, we never accorded them any political influence and certainly never mixed them up with Nazis!!!
Nazism died in 1945!!! Get with it!!
Aren't the skinheads following the same ideology? Russia for Russians is their desire.
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#12 Jul 31, 2007
Anti wrote:
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Ohhhh...., here is a voice of Moldova, the former Rome Empire. Isn't it? A screem of a semi-Nazi-semi-commy. I will remind you one very popular slogan of Moldavian "democrats": "Sink Russians in Jewish blood!" It was announced by Moldavian state national leaders, not local skinheads. In Russia skinheads are criminals. At the same time fascism-communizzzzm is a natioanal ideology of Moldova. It's the fact. That's why your country is deep in the ass of Europe. Sell your shit vine to democratic countries.
Really? Where did you get that sh!t? Show me examples of fascism-communizzzzm ideology? Give me real examples of it? Who exactly said "Sink Russians in Jewish blood!"? I want facts and examples.
It seems Jews are pariahs in Russia, not in Moldova.

“Not Austrian, don't start!”

Since: Apr 07

Bedford, UK

#13 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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National Socialism is a supra-nationalist doctrine proclaiming the superiority of the German race as the "chosen race". It advocate racial purity and recognise the historical right of Germanics to dominate other races. Its aim is to expand the size of the German race by carefull breeding and to ensure sufficient space and resources for that expansion (lebensraum).
This ideology give the right to the German nation to invade countries, enslave their population, eliminate the indesirables and maintain German supremacy.
What that has in common with an undisciplined bunch of nashi, who are not German, have mixed heritage (like most of us), are not racially and politically aware and have too much time on their hands to spend on harrassing foreigners?
We do have skinheads in UK too (less now), but as a fashion, a rebellious gang, we never accorded them any political influence and certainly never mixed them up with Nazis!!!
Nazism died in 1945!!! Get with it!!
Nazism is alive and well and it's still in Germany. I know because I go there a lot, like I go all over Europe.

Geez I came on the Finland forum because I really love Finland, was there last week, and I end up reading this crap!
william

Southampton, UK

#14 Jul 31, 2007
Ilascu wrote:
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Aren't the skinheads following the same ideology? Russia for Russians is their desire.
Looks to me that skinheads in Russia don't follow any ideology, doctrine, discipline or anything. It's a 'free-for-all' brawl for bored thugs mostly!!
william

Southampton, UK

#15 Jul 31, 2007
Road wrote:
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Nazism is alive and well and it's still in Germany. I know because I go there a lot, like I go all over Europe.
Geez I came on the Finland forum because I really love Finland, was there last week, and I end up reading this crap!
I don't deny that there are some people 'playing' nazis in Germany, but there is no organisation.

Nazi symbols are banned, nazi litterature is also banned. There is no leadership, no organisation, no structure. Just a bunch of kids with too much time on thei hands playing havoc and pretending being nazis.

How many of them know anything about the ideology, or read Mein kampf?
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#16 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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Looks to me that skinheads in Russia don't follow any ideology, doctrine, discipline or anything. It's a 'free-for-all' brawl for bored thugs mostly!!
What ideology those skinheads follow? What is the difference between them and German skinheads? What is the difference between European and American nazis?
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#17 Jul 31, 2007
Anti wrote:
It was Finno-Ugric festival, not Nazi meeting. That's why eSStonian leaders were not invited.
No, Putin just showed that he can play "divide and conquer" on smaller language groups, cultural diversity be damned. The festival was just another russian "pokazuhha". Besides not inviting the leaders of Estonia, also an Estonian filming group was harassed and Estonian citizens were generally "tailed", as happened in the old times when foreign tourists were visiting the Soviet Union.

Nothing new to see here, business as usual in Russian Federation, please move along.

“Not Austrian, don't start!”

Since: Apr 07

Bedford, UK

#18 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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I don't deny that there are some people 'playing' nazis in Germany, but there is no organisation.
Nazi symbols are banned, nazi litterature is also banned. There is no leadership, no organisation, no structure. Just a bunch of kids with too much time on thei hands playing havoc and pretending being nazis.
How many of them know anything about the ideology, or read Mein kampf?
There is no organisation, that's true. But do you really think that all old-age pensioners in Germany are normal people that want nothing to do with nazism?
In the USA you can freely set up your nazi party, wear nazi uniforms in public and openly preach hate against jews. There is no law against that.

Here in Britain we have our very own Nazi party. Don't believe me? Take a look at this: www.n9s.org , their website on a US domain. When the US says freedom of speech they really do mean freedom of speech.
Nazism will never go away. In a sence radical islamism is also a way of nazism with their hate against jews and their quest of destruction to us, the free world.
It's a sick world we live in, and since the '40ties it really hasn't got any better.
Anti

Moscow, Russia

#19 Jul 31, 2007
Ilascu wrote:
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Really? Where did you get that sh!t? Show me examples of fascism-communizzzzm ideology? Give me real examples of it? Who exactly said "Sink Russians in Jewish blood!"? I want facts and examples.
It seems Jews are pariahs in Russia, not in Moldova.
You want examples?! Look around yourself! Moldova is under Voronin's dictatorship. Moldavians vote for your "democracy" with their legs - they are running and Voronin with his police can't stop them. Who exactly said this phrase? It was your national slogan like "The peace for the world" or "We are constructing communism" as you had cried before.
During WWII you, Moldavians/Romanians, killed about 300,000 Jews. Now there are about 30,000 who can't move. One "Jewish pariah in Russia" Mr. Fradkov is the Russian Prime Minister. Here are a lot of another examples. Here is a link below regarding real anti-Semitism in Moldova.
http://www.eajc.org/program_art_e.php...
A market-place Gipsy is more honest than you.
Ilascu

Chisinau, Moldova

#20 Jul 31, 2007
william wrote:
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Looks to me that skinheads in Russia don't follow any ideology, doctrine, discipline or anything. It's a 'free-for-all' brawl for bored thugs mostly!!
Looks like you don't know too much about Russia's reality.

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