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Co-Creator of Russia's 'Homosexual Propaganda' Law Wants to Ban Gay Bars

There are 58 comments on the EDGE story from Apr 16, 2014, titled Co-Creator of Russia's 'Homosexual Propaganda' Law Wants to Ban Gay Bars. In it, EDGE reports that:

One of Russia's lawmakers who helped create the infamous "homosexual propaganda" bill, which was signed into law by President Vladimir Putin last summer, is now urging for all gay clubs and LGBT social media pages to be banned, Gay Star News reports.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#22 Apr 17, 2014
FIGHT RUSSIAN FASCISM wrote:
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No.
I hope we will be able to make all people see the threat this Russian Fascism poses to all of us!
I agree, but I genuinely fer that they will not wake up to this danger until it is too late just like they did not wake up to Hitler until it was too late. If the U.S. and other European countries had stopped Hitler IMMEDIATELY, when he marched into Austria, and prevented him from marching into Czechoslovakia, then there is a good chance that World War II could have been avoided,and millions of lives would not have been lost in the worst war in the history of the world.

Will history repeat itself ? Will the wold once again turn a blind eye to a rising dictator bent on reestablish an old empire ? I fear the answer is "YES".
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#23 Apr 17, 2014
All these Putin lovers or people who agree with this, must also hate America, the land of the free. Morons!

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Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#24 Apr 17, 2014
Cujo wrote:
All these Putin lovers or people who agree with this, must also hate America, the land of the free. Morons!
I think you're right.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#25 Apr 17, 2014
Most European countries went after Germany because Hitler made it clear he had every intention of annexing as much of Europe as he could. It wasn't altruism; it was self-defense. We didn't enter the war until Hitler declared war on us first--arguably the single stupidest decision he made aside from attacking Russia in winter.

Objectively, the Ukraine doesn't have a lot of allies; it isn't a nice country. If the USSR takes it over completely, it's not going to affect the balance of power in Europe.

Russia taking part of the Ukraine is much like Israel taking over Palestinian/buffer areas, and nobody's tried to stop them, either.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Ad Putin, former Communist Party member, and former KGB agent, is as bad as Hitler.
When Hitler invaded Poland, France and Great Britain declared war on Germany. But the U.S. and it's European allies have done nothing now that Putin has invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimea. And he will probably seize the rest of Ukraine soon, despite a treaty signed by Russia, the U.S., and Ukraine that guaranteed that Ukraine's borders would be respected by all.
So why have France, Great Britain, and the other European countries not reacted similarly to Putin as they did to Hitler ? And if there is no reaction from the U.S. And it's allies to Putin's invasion and annexation of Ukraine, then why should he stop there ? All of Europe is at risk, particularly the independent nations that were once part of the old USSR. Why he should stop at Ukraine if nobody is going to stop him ?
If Putin is as smart and able as I think he is, he will become Russia's longest-ruling dictator of the past 150 years. Who's going to stop him ?
FIGHT RUSSIAN FASCISM

Surrey, Canada

#26 Apr 17, 2014
All minorities in all countries, and all decent people everywhere have the duty to rid the world of this new Russian Fascism that has infested Eastern Ukraine.

Because we all know it will not stop there.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#27 Apr 17, 2014
The answer is, war is not a first-response solution to anything. Nobody wants the incalculable loss of life, property, and resources anymore. You also have to rememvber that China isn't interested in Russia getting grabby, either, and they aren't really allies this time.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I agree, but I genuinely fer that they will not wake up to this danger until it is too late just like they did not wake up to Hitler until it was too late. If the U.S. and other European countries had stopped Hitler IMMEDIATELY, when he marched into Austria, and prevented him from marching into Czechoslovakia, then there is a good chance that World War II could have been avoided,and millions of lives would not have been lost in the worst war in the history of the world.
Will history repeat itself ? Will the wold once again turn a blind eye to a rising dictator bent on reestablish an old empire ? I fear the answer is "YES".

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#28 Apr 17, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Most European countries went after Germany because Hitler made it clear he had every intention of annexing as much of Europe as he could. It wasn't altruism; it was self-defense. We didn't enter the war until Hitler declared war on us first--arguably the single stupidest decision he made aside from attacking Russia in winter.
Objectively, the Ukraine doesn't have a lot of allies; it isn't a nice country. If the USSR takes it over completely, it's not going to affect the balance of power in Europe.
Russia taking part of the Ukraine is much like Israel taking over Palestinian/buffer areas, and nobody's tried to stop them, either.
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Putin has designs on a LOT more than Ukraine. He wants to reestablish as much as the old Russian (or Soviet, take your pick) Empire as possible. That includes Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and more.

And I think that Putin correctly believes that NATO is now a paper tiger.

Whenever Russia, or the old Soviet Union, invaded and conquered other countries, the U.S. and the European countries never did ANYTHING to stop Russia from doing so. NEVER.

And once again, the U.S. and it's European allies have shown no willingness to stop Russia. So why should Putin stop ?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#29 Apr 17, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
The answer is, war is not a first-response solution to anything. Nobody wants the incalculable loss of life, property, and resources anymore. You also have to rememvber that China isn't interested in Russia getting grabby, either, and they aren't really allies this time.
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A small war as a FIRST response, an stop a BIG war as a last response.

If Hitler has been stopped by the U.S. and it's western European allies in Austria or Czechoslovakia, and stood fir against him, then there is a good chance that Hitler would not have invaded Poland which began World War II in Europe.

In 1990, Saddam invaded and conquered Kuwait. Is there any doubt that in 1991, Saddam would have invaded Saudi Arabia (he did) and conquered it (he didn't) if the the U.S., U.K., and others did not stop him by military force ?

Was it not preferable to fight a small war in Kuwait and Iraq rather than a BIG war in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Iraq ?

Wars are not always a bad thing.(Unless you think that the American Revolutionary War and The War Between the States were a bad thing.)

Since: Jan 13

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#30 Apr 17, 2014
uther pendragon wrote:
Why should bars which openly discriminate against normal people be permitted anyway?
Hmmm, do they?
Are the Russian gay bars really so different to the rest of the world that they do.... doubtful

Since: Jan 13

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#31 Apr 17, 2014
Abe wrote:
All hail President Vladimir Putin, the greatest leader in the world today!
WOO HOO!
He's definitely clever. Got his whole nation riled up against gays and self-policing those 'propaganda' laws instead of rioting over the real issues of their Country

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#32 Apr 17, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Ad Putin, former Communist Party member, and former KGB agent, is as bad as Hitler.
When Hitler invaded Poland, France and Great Britain declared war on Germany. But the U.S. and it's European allies have done nothing now that Putin has invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimea. And he will probably seize the rest of Ukraine soon, despite a treaty signed by Russia, the U.S., and Ukraine that guaranteed that Ukraine's borders would be respected by all.
So why have France, Great Britain, and the other European countries not reacted similarly to Putin as they did to Hitler ? And if there is no reaction from the U.S. And it's allies to Putin's invasion and annexation of Ukraine, then why should he stop there ? All of Europe is at risk, particularly the independent nations that were once part of the old USSR. Why he should stop at Ukraine if nobody is going to stop him ?
If Putin is as smart and able as I think he is, he will become Russia's longest-ruling dictator of the past 150 years. Who's going to stop him ?
We're in a "peace in our time" phase.

Most people can't point out the Ukraine on a map.

Most of the EEU is dependent upon Russian natural gas.

We are in no way prepared for a military intervention.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#33 Apr 17, 2014
Velvet MJK wrote:
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He's definitely clever. Got his whole nation riled up against gays and self-policing those 'propaganda' laws instead of rioting over the real issues of their Country
Oh, he's a VERY smart man, working to get exactly what he wants, and unfortunately The Obamaniac, and others, have greatly underestimated him.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#34 Apr 17, 2014
snyper wrote:
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We're in a "peace in our time" phase.
Most people can't point out the Ukraine on a map.
Most of the EEU is dependent upon Russian natural gas.
We are in no way prepared for a military intervention.
I disagree. In 1990 and 1991, we shipped thousands of M-1 Abrams tanks to Saudi Arabia for the Persian Gulf War.

If the Ukrainian government had asked us to do the same thing, and we agreed to ship a thousand M-1 Abrams tanks, along with their crews and support units, to Ukraine to confront the Russians, do you REALLY think that Putin would have attacked us or the Ukrainians ?

The fact that The Obamanaic has done NOTHING to stand up to Putin will only embolden Putin. Suppose Putin moves 9000 Russian troops into Latvia.. Are you prepared to go to war with Russia over Latvia ?

Yes or no ?

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#35 Apr 17, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
I disagree. In 1990 and 1991, we shipped thousands of M-1 Abrams tanks to Saudi Arabia for the Persian Gulf War.
As your example implies, this takes time. Had we started sending them two years ago, long before this was even an issue, you might have been on to something.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
If the Ukrainian...
Of course, they haven't.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
The fact that The Obamanaic has done NOTHING to stand up to Putin will only embolden Putin. Suppose Putin moves 9000 Russian troops into Latvia.. Are you prepared to go to war with Russia over Latvia ?
Suppose, we consider the fact that the citizens of Crimea voted on their annexation? If we support democracy, and the people being able to make their own choices about their futures, we should support this.

Long story short, Foxy, is that we don't need to show up to every world conflict.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#36 Apr 17, 2014
you're right, the Crimeans asked Russia for help in detatching themselves from the Ukraine. They were seen by news journalists, dancing in the street at the arrival of Russian forces

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#37 Apr 17, 2014
lides wrote:
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As your example implies, this takes time. Had we started sending them two years ago, long before this was even an issue, you might have been on to something.
<quoted text>
Of course, they haven't.
<quoted text>
Suppose, we consider the fact that the citizens of Crimea voted on their annexation? If we support democracy, and the people being able to make their own choices about their futures, we should support this.
Long story short, Foxy, is that we don't need to show up to every world conflict.
Yeah. Just like the Austrians voted for Anschluss with Germany when Hitler marched his troops in.

And we have M-1Abrams tank sin Europe, along with British Chieftians, German Leopards, and other European heavy tanks. And it took only weeks to get M-1's from the U.S. to Saudi Arabia to oppose Saddam, not years.

And don't forget that we went gun barrel to gun barrel with out tanks opposing the Russian tanks in Berlin, and the Russians backed off. So it's been done before, ya kno.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#38 Apr 17, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Yeah. Just like the Austrians voted for Anschluss with Germany when Hitler marched his troops in.
Learn your history, Foxy. The problem with your assertion is that the vast majority of Austrians supported the Anschluss.

The reality is that we have no interest in this fight, and sending ground troops into Asia might be one of the stupidest courses of action imaginable.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#39 Apr 17, 2014
lides wrote:
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Learn your history, Foxy. The problem with your assertion is that the vast majority of Austrians supported the Anschluss.
The reality is that we have no interest in this fight, and sending ground troops into Asia might be one of the stupidest courses of action imaginable.
Ukraine is in Europe, you dope.

Estonia is a very small country in Europe and was a part of the former Soviet Union until it declared independence in 1991.

Estonia has a population of 1.3 million people and an area of 17,000 square miles.

I was born in Brooklyn. Just for size comparison, Brooklyn has a population of 2.5 million people and an area of 96 square miles.

Now just hypothetically: Since we haven't reacted to Putin's illegal invasion and annexation of the Crimea, and since The Obamanaic has said that "military force is off the table" regarding Ukraine, while at the same time Putin has said that his use of military force in the Ukraine is "possible", would you then support the U.S. using military force against Putin if he moves Russian troops into Estonia, since it was part of the old Soviet Union and was also a part of the old Russian Empire ?

Would you support determined and strong U.S. military action against Russia to drive their troops out of Estonia if Putin decides to move them into there ?

Yes or No ?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#40 Apr 17, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Ukraine is in Europe, you dope.
Estonia is a very small country in Europe and was a part of the former Soviet Union until it declared independence in 1991.
Estonia has a population of 1.3 million people and an area of 17,000 square miles.
I was born in Brooklyn. Just for size comparison, Brooklyn has a population of 2.5 million people and an area of 96 square miles.
Now just hypothetically: Since we haven't reacted to Putin's illegal invasion and annexation of the Crimea, and since The Obamanaic has said that "military force is off the table" regarding Ukraine, while at the same time Putin has said that his use of military force in the Ukraine is "possible", would you then support the U.S. using military force against Putin if he moves Russian troops into Estonia, since it was part of the old Soviet Union and was also a part of the old Russian Empire ?
Would you support determined and strong U.S. military action against Russia to drive their troops out of Estonia if Putin decides to move them into there ?
Yes or No ?
Historically, Ukraine is the birthplace of Russia. Kiev was the first real city founded by the Rus.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#41 Apr 18, 2014
snyper wrote:
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Historically, Ukraine is the birthplace of Russia. Kiev was the first real city founded by the Rus.
Do YOU care to answer my last question in that post ?

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