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Indy wrote:
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Are you on "Dancing with the Stars" by any chance?
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A little defensive are we ....?
Notice how in your post you mentioned nothing about Nazis. Stefanya's method of posting is to avoid the tough questions and focus on her favourite themes, namely Nazi brutality and "Russia haters". The issue was the brutality of the Bolsheviks, not Nazis or sick people who adopted Russian kids, yet that is what she threw into the conversation to take the attention off the subject matter.

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What a surprise that someone using the tag "Robespierre" would take this position.
Didn't Robespierre meet with a bad end himself?:)
In the end, the Tsar decided his own fate. He had always believed in autocracy by 'divine power', and not only resisted effort of democratisation in Russia, but persecuted their authors.

On his wedding day, he had the cossaks charge the crowd ouside the imperial palace, killing hundreds.

In the 1905 revolution, facing loosing his throne, he accepted a Duma, only to close it a few months later when order came back to Russia. He had most of political leaders arrested, deported to Siberia. The tsarist political secret police, the Okrana, was on the same mould as the Chekka, the NKVD and the KGB.

Tsarism cannot be seen through rose-tinted glasses; it was a cruel repressive dictatorship.
Tsar Nicolas II, impervous to the urgent need for reforms, instead plunged Russia in a world war, against the best advices of his generals, at great suffering for the people, at huge cost for his crumbling economy and without any hope of success.

Nicolas II was a despot who cannot be regretted. His execution was just reward for his cruaulty.

Bolshevism was in fact a relief from the excesses of tsarism. That's how it soon had many followers.

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Apr 18, 2008
 
Indy wrote:
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Are you on "Dancing with the Stars" by any chance?
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A little defensive are we ....?
Of course, isn't everyone who disagrees with you just dancing with the stars? And what kind of nut would make such a post? I can't stand dancing with the stars and don't even watch that stupid show.

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Apr 18, 2008
 
Smetana wrote:
<quoted text>Notice how in your post you mentioned nothing about Nazis. Stefanya's method of posting is to avoid the tough questions and focus on her favourite themes, namely Nazi brutality and "Russia haters". The issue was the brutality of the Bolsheviks, not Nazis or sick people who adopted Russian kids, yet that is what she threw into the conversation to take the attention off the subject matter.
The issue was weren't Bolsheviks horrible, while of course they were more horrible than even the nazis according to Russia haters like yourself. History does not get made nor explained only from one side. But nice to see you are ever vigilant in making sure that only one viewpoint, yours is considered legitimate. Get over it, many people do not agree with you and don't have to.6025
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