Russian extremists call for recriminalisation of homosexuality

Russian Vanguard, an ultra-religious monarchist group, has picketed the Kaliningrad concert of performer Boris Moiseyev because he is openly gay.

The extreme nationalist group said it would not target the singer's fans, as not all of them are gay, but restated its demands that gay sex acts be punished by law.

"The Kaliningrad administration authorities banned us from picketing the concert of Moiseyev," Russian Vanguard's leader Alexander Klementyev told Interfax.

"This picketing will show our demand to re-establish Article 121 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation which existed before and provided for punishment for homosexuality," said Klementyev.

Homosexuality was legalised in Russia in 1993 and since 1999 it is no longer included on the list of mental illnesses.

Religious Russians have been at the vanguard of the fight against gay rights in the country.

However, the Communist Party of Russian Federation is also deeply homophobic. Its leader Gennady Zyuganov says that homosexuality is contrary to Russian national traditions.

The ruling party is not supportive of gay people. Russian society as well as the government are notoriously homophobic in character.

[KirkW]

Why are all these people so afraid of the penis and what gay men do with theirs? Do they imagine themselves do it and then get scared? Do they think that somehow they might become gay just because gay people are around? What is the big deal over gay folks?

You don't like or don't understand gay people? Fine! Then mind your own business but stop trying to run other people's lives.

If you don't like it then stop yammering about it. Why do you want to continue shoving something you don't like in your own face?

[rdg1234]

I can't fathom it either. It is an *obsession* that won't go away, and I see exactly why people say they're latently gay. When, in fact, do they shut the f*** up about it and get it through their thick heads that failure to live and let live causes gargantuan problems?

[NE Jade]

Just like gay marriage, if you don't want one, don't have one! If you don't want to make out with the same sex, then don't. You're right rgd, it is an obsession, and a most annoying one at that!!

[fuzi]

Religion requires insanity, so expecting religious people to act sanely is incongruous with reality.

[reformator]

fuzi wrote:

Religion requires insanity, so expecting religious people to act sanely is incongruous with reality.

I have an idea. What if we pray to Fallo. All falloses are the same and it will be peace eventually on the planet. We can use as icons in our temples of Saint Fallo the falloses taken from castrated straights.

[Smetana]

Don't listen to this fraud. He uses proxies to give the allusion there are many people who agree with him. In reality, he is an uneducated Russian immigrant in Canada. Most Russians are good people, but there are bad people in every country. He is obsessed prostitution and regularly posts the costs of Russian and Ukrainian prostitutes. Perhaps this is to cover up his own homosexuality, which is evident in this post about fallos.

[Black Invincible Swan]

BTW. What's cost of those prostitutes in Russia and Ukraine? Big difference?

[Smetana]

Black Invincible Swan wrote:

BTW. What's cost of those prostitutes in Russia and Ukraine? Big difference?

How should I know, I didn't click on any of your links yesterday.

[kissmet]

What links? I like those links. Can you post it here, please?

[Monty]

fuzi wrote:

Religion requires insanity, so expecting religious people to act sanely is incongruous with reality.

So says a pedophile. Still abusing children?

[KirkW]

Monty wrote:

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So says a pedophile. Still abusing children?

You have proof for this allegation do you? Or are you one of those who automatically equate gay men with pedophiles despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary?

Let me guess...all the evidence from countries all around the world is somehow contrived by the worldwide homosexual conspiracy and therefore it should be ignored.

That's ok you keep sticking your head in the sand.

There really isn't a word to describe how mind-numbingly ignorant you are.

[Vovchik]

Why actually a pedophile or a zoophile or a necrophile are worse than a gay?
I do not see any difference
Tell me please.

[fuzi]

So typical of a religious person to openly LIE about someone else. Nobody lies like religious people, they do it so much it has become commonplace to them.

Does it please your god to make hateful lies about other people? Is that what your god commands you to do?

[Vovchik]

fuzi wrote:

So typical of a religious person to openly LIE about someone else. Nobody lies like religious people, they do it so much it has become commonplace to them.
Does it please your god to make hateful lies about other people? Is that what your god commands you to do?

who does not lie?
You? Never?

[Ziggy on High]

Vovchik wrote:

Why actually a pedophile or a zoophile or a necrophile are worse than a gay?
I do not see any difference
Tell me please.

This should be just common sense, but I guess you are lacking. Let me spell it out for you.

It's all about consenting adults.

Children do not consent, and are obviously not adults. Pedophilia is actually harmful.

Animals can not consent. So, they too can be harmed and traumatized (and the word you are looking for is bestiality.)

Dead people can not consent. It's disrespectful to that person.

It's that simple. Homosexuality exists between consenting adults that are in it for love and fun. No one is harmed. No one is traumatized.

You people who try to equate us with these other sexual categories are just retarded. Are you just trying to make us look bad by way of association? Well nice try, but THERE IS NO ASSOCIATION AT ALL. Get a bloody clue.

[Sean]

If it's all about consenting adults, does it mean adultery is moral as well?

[Ziggy on High]

Sean wrote:

If it's all about consenting adults, does it mean adultery is moral as well?

No one said anything about adultery. That is alt least as much of an issue with straight couples as with gay couples. It has nothing to do with any argument here.

Try again. It is a moot point.

[KirkW]

Sean wrote:

If it's all about consenting adults, does it mean adultery is moral as well?

In adultery there is at least one person who is not consenting...the partner being cheated on. Sometimes both adulterers are married and then there are 2 people who are not consenting.

So yes, the consenting adult argunment does still apply here albeit not in a direct way.

[Monty]

KirkW wrote:

<quoted text>
You have proof for this allegation do you? Or are you one of those who automatically equate gay men with pedophiles despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary?

Another pedophile runs to the other's defense? Where is your scrutiny over the first poster's assertion that insanity is required to be religious?
Or are you just another in a long lone of hypocrites? Yeah, thought so.

KirkW wrote:

Let me guess...all the evidence from countries all around the world is somehow contrived by the worldwide homosexual conspiracy and therefore it should be ignored.

Why are you going on about gay people???

KirkW wrote:

That's ok you keep sticking your head in the sand.
There really isn't a word to describe how mind-numbingly ignorant you are.

And obviously a cretin like yourself is exempt from perspective and common sense. Enjoy that closed mind of yours.

[Monty]

fuzi wrote:

So typical of a religious person to openly LIE about someone else. Nobody lies like religious people, they do it so much it has become commonplace to them.

Liar.

fuzi wrote:

Does it please your god to make hateful lies about other people? Is that what your god commands you to do?

Does it make you feel good to bash other people's faiths because you don't agree??? Then you wail like a wounded banshee when you're called on it.
Hypocrite!!!!