Russia to test fifth-generation fight...

Russia to test fifth-generation fighter in 2009

There are 25 comments on the Defence Talk story from Dec 12, 2007, titled Russia to test fifth-generation fighter in 2009. In it, Defence Talk reports that:

“We have conducted preliminary discussions on these issues and now we have to work out a detailed program for the implementation of the [fifth-generation fighter] project”

LANGKAWI: Flight tests of a fifth-generation Russian-Indian fighter will begin as early as 2009 and mass production of the aircraft may start by 2015, the Sukhoi aircraft maker said Wednesday. via Defence Talk

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Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#1 Dec 18, 2007
yeah~ su-50 pak-fa, way to go! hope the govt will consider to buy this new aircraft too

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#2 Dec 18, 2007
keren --- lawannya F-22
combro

Paris, France

#3 Dec 18, 2007
W_Harris wrote:
keren --- lawannya F-22
om, "keren" itu bahasa Melayu Malaysia juga kah?
Hapus Israel

Jakarta, Indonesia

#4 Dec 18, 2007
astos1244 wrote:
yeah~ su-50 pak-fa, way to go! hope the govt will consider to buy this new aircraft too
"astos1244" Foto nya siapa.. kenalin dong.. ;p (cakueep)

Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#5 Dec 18, 2007
W_Harris wrote:
keren --- lawannya F-22
right, the russian build this one specially to rival that of the f22 raptor, lets hope it would materialize and the russian would consider to sell them to friendly country

“Warkop Forever”

Since: Dec 07

Malaysia

#6 Dec 18, 2007
indo kyanya mau beli deh, di koran kompas tempo hari pernah baca indo mo ganti pesawat2 yg mulai tua kya hawk/f16,

klo beritanya bener wuihh.... awas lo yah!!!:D

Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#7 Dec 18, 2007
Hapus Israel wrote:
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"astos1244" Foto nya siapa.. kenalin dong.. ;p (cakueep)
umph, that's not me..its the chractet Tifa Lockhear from the japanese cg anime Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children, the most beutiful fictional women in the world

Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#8 Dec 18, 2007
malingmelayu wrote:
indo kyanya mau beli deh, di koran kompas tempo hari pernah baca indo mo ganti pesawat2 yg mulai tua kya hawk/f16,
klo beritanya bener wuihh.... awas lo yah!!!:D
rasanya sukar untuk mana2 negara untuk cuba membelinya...cuba saudara lihat wikipedia mengenai su-50.

aduh, hargany sangatlah mahal! rasanya pihak russia sendiri sukar membinaya dalam kuantiti yang besar

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#9 Dec 18, 2007
astos1244 wrote:
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right, the russian build this one specially to rival that of the f22 raptor, lets hope it would materialize and the russian would consider to sell them to friendly country
malaysia,india,vietnam and indonesia are russian friendly countries... some of them already voiced their interest. hope it will be not that expensive. our sukhoi cost USD55 million each.:D

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#10 Dec 18, 2007
combro wrote:
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om, "keren" itu bahasa Melayu Malaysia juga kah?
udah dimaling omm combro, sudah jadi BM sekarang ..
combro

Paris, France

#11 Dec 18, 2007
W_Harris wrote:
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udah dimaling omm combro, sudah jadi BM sekarang ..
wahahahaha jangan terlalu sensitif ah ;D

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#12 Dec 18, 2007
malingmelayu wrote:
indo kyanya mau beli deh, di koran kompas tempo hari pernah baca indo mo ganti pesawat2 yg mulai tua kya hawk/f16,
klo beritanya bener wuihh.... awas lo yah!!!:D
heheheh, bodoh kalau mau ganti hawk, cukup ngan sukhoi aja, nanti kemahalan. tuh sukhoi indo di jadi 2 squadron ( 36 buah ), sekarang kan baru 6 buah.. suruh SBY/MENHAN beli lagi 30 sukhoi. malaysia udah beli 18 buah, lagi 18 menyusul samada F-18E/F atau sukhoi 30 MKM.

“Warkop Forever”

Since: Dec 07

Malaysia

#13 Dec 18, 2007
W_Harris wrote:
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heheheh, bodoh kalau mau ganti hawk, cukup ngan sukhoi aja, nanti kemahalan. tuh sukhoi indo di jadi 2 squadron ( 36 buah ), sekarang kan baru 6 buah.. suruh SBY/MENHAN beli lagi 30 sukhoi. malaysia udah beli 18 buah, lagi 18 menyusul samada F-18E/F atau sukhoi 30 MKM.
dudulz, ini ga termasuk skuadron sukhoi 27/30.

program 2 skuadron sukhoi 27/30 tetap berjalan, tapi f16 kmungkinan besar di upgade, klo hawk kyanya tetap di ganti coz pemerintah ga mau pake barang buatan negara barat lagi, udah trauma kena embargo!

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#14 Dec 18, 2007
malingmelayu wrote:
<quoted text>dudulz, ini ga termasuk skuadron sukhoi 27/30.
program 2 skuadron sukhoi 27/30 tetap berjalan, tapi f16 kmungkinan besar di upgade, klo hawk kyanya tetap di ganti coz pemerintah ga mau pake barang buatan negara barat lagi, udah trauma kena embargo!
sukhoi tetap berjalan pada kadar 2-3 buah pertahun .. berapa tahun mau jadikan 2 skudron ?, penganti hawk ? tak perlu diganti , terus beli sukhot aja ...
F-16 mau upgrade apaan lagi ommm.. cuman 4 aja yg bisa terbang .. mahal !!! dari upgrade beli aja sukhoi .. nah indo punya single airframe ... mudah maintenance dan spare parts nyaa ..hehehe .. ngeri jugak kalau indo punya sukhoi sampai 40 buah.

Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#15 Dec 18, 2007
Hawk is no match for Sukhoi, we in Malaysia only used it as light close air support and training operations only.

Maybe Indo and Malaysia should consider to buy more Su-30, we already have 6 and 12 more underway.

In a few years, Singapore is planning to buy F-35 Lighnight 2 , that's more like an F-22...maybe opting for Su-50 the new 5th Gen is a right thing to ensure Malaysia and Indonesia did not left behind Singapore.

Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#16 Dec 18, 2007
W_Harris wrote:
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sukhoi tetap berjalan pada kadar 2-3 buah pertahun .. berapa tahun mau jadikan 2 skudron ?, penganti hawk ? tak perlu diganti , terus beli sukhot aja ...
F-16 mau upgrade apaan lagi ommm.. cuman 4 aja yg bisa terbang .. mahal !!! dari upgrade beli aja sukhoi .. nah indo punya single airframe ... mudah maintenance dan spare parts nyaa ..hehehe .. ngeri jugak kalau indo punya sukhoi sampai 40 buah.
Wow...40 buah, rasanya tak payah la sampai macam tu kot...malaysia plan nak ada 18 sahaja...Singapore akan nervous kalau Indonesia ada begitu banyak...

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#17 Dec 18, 2007
astos1244 wrote:
Hawk is no match for Sukhoi, we in Malaysia only used it as light close air support and training operations only.
Maybe Indo and Malaysia should consider to buy more Su-30, we already have 6 and 12 more underway.
In a few years, Singapore is planning to buy F-35 Lighnight 2 , that's more like an F-22...maybe opting for Su-50 the new 5th Gen is a right thing to ensure Malaysia and Indonesia did not left behind Singapore.
no i dont think malaysia will opt su-50, not in the near future, what we had in mind may be is to upgrade our avionic and radar from PESA to AESA to maintain our technological edge. Sukhoi 30 MKM currently the most advanced aircraft in service in this region. Even mig-29N might be upgraded to MIG-29 SMT if budget permitted. With su and mig around it will be a perfect match for HI-LO maneuvre during conflicts.

“u can be bold not reckless”

Since: May 07

Malaysia

#18 Dec 18, 2007
we do have tight budget bro W_Harris..what i have heard ATM might upgrade the Migs and but 2 @ 3 more to complete a squad..replacing the crash ones..but at the same time Boeing make new deals on our F18..they want to replace with new model (maybe E/F blocks) with of course some extra bucks..i think we will maintain what we have and purchase upgrades.F18 & Sukhoi for bombardment/sea/land attach&defense while Mig 29 in air-to-air combat role.
indonesian should buy more Su with their spect (SU-30-MKI?)..& of course Sing will b nervous..haha..

Since: Nov 07

Kota Kinabalu

#19 Dec 18, 2007
still...I think that maybe TUDM is only strong enough to fight a small scale war..but it all depends on our national budget also...i heard MoD is discussing whether to go for the F18 Super Hornet, but if it did not materialize then MoD TUDM will buy more su-30 mkm...

but let just wait, though its kinda nice to think if malaysia could have something like the new su-50 or f-22 raptor it self.

lol...

“Malaysia Boleh”

Since: Nov 07

Bukit Damansara

#20 Dec 18, 2007
i prefer tudm to purchase more suk30 mkm but this time with AESA radar, perhaps the russian Zhuk-AE AESA, developed by Phazotron ( somewhat similar to the mig-35 radar)which is cheaper but certainly not inferior compared with other western versions. With AESA the Su30 MKM will have the weapons control system of the multi-role fifth-generation fighter.
It would make more sense to build the entire fighter force around the Su-30.“The true essence of a MRCA is that you can do a swing role and economise of spares, pilot training and weapons, as well as airfield infrastucture.”
I advocate opt for Single Airframe which is Su-30MKM

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