Chinese troopers shooting fleeing Tibetans caught on tape

By Sudeshna Sarkar, Indo-Asian News Service Kathmandu, Oct 14 A video footage by a Romanian cameraman showing Chinese troops firing on fleeing unarmed Tibetans near the Nepal-Tibet border belies China's claim ...

[Gerrit]

Bastards ! Boycot Peking Olympics 2008 NOW

[why]

why there is always some newspaper likes telling lies?
why they like telling lies about china and make it evil?
actually chinese are very nice.

[Andrez Lopez]

why wrote:

why there is always some newspaper likes telling lies?
why they like telling lies about china and make it evil?
actually chinese are very nice.

Because Indians like to do that. Because Indians want to inherit the McMahon line from the Brit as the border between the two countries. Because Indians want to regain influence in Tibet.

[Evenson]

why wrote:

why there is always some newspaper likes telling lies?
why they like telling lies about china and make it evil?
actually chinese are very nice.

The Romanians have footage of the shootings.
A British climber saw this massacre happen before his eyes also.
These are not lies. This actually happened.

[Evenson]

Andrez Lopez wrote:

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Because Indians like to do that. Because Indians want to inherit the McMahon line from the Brit as the border between the two countries. Because Indians want to regain influence in Tibet.

It happened. Find the footage and see for yourself instead of speculating. Indian influence would be better than Chinese becasue they have helped the Tibetan culture survive.

[why]

Evenson wrote:

<quoted text>
The Romanians have footage of the shootings.
A British climber saw this massacre happen before his eyes also.
These are not lies. This actually happened.

could you please tell me did you watch the footage?
or you just heard it from sb esle?
and this sb esle heard it from another sb else?

that is the way the rumor goes on.

[why]

Did China invade other countries in the past 100 years?
NO!

but see what happened during the last 100 years?

Japan invaded China!
English invade China!
and Russia, and French!
and....the list goes on and on ...

China owe the world or the world owes china?

Can you tell me? Evenson?

[Evenson]

why wrote:

Did China invade other countries in the past 100 years?
NO!
but see what happened during the last 100 years?
Japan invaded China!
English invade China!
and Russia, and French!
and....the list goes on and on ...
China owe the world or the world owes china?
Can you tell me? Evenson?

China invaded Tibet, which WAS an independent, soverign nation till 1950.
China invaded India in in 1962, causing India to cess 38 000 square kilometres of territory.

In 1979, China invaded Vietnam with a force of over 85 000!

Gee so much For China not invading anyone in the past 100 years. Oh yeah and you forgot ot mention that between 1906 and 1949, China was in full scale civil war, with each other and the Japanese. How convenient that you forgot that too. Also, China is backing the DPRK regime, has been threatening Taiwan with invasion (and has over 800 missiles aimed at it), and it's recent military expansion has worried her neighbours.
China owes the world to become a democracy as soon as possible. It's human rights abuses, and the number iof people killed in two major Socialist inspired events (The Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward) killed over 49 000 000 people! And the CCP still say that Mao was only 30% wrong, 70% right. Plus the English did not invade in the last 100 years, and please tell me when the French invaded China also.

[Evenson]

why wrote:

<quoted text>
could you please tell me did you watch the footage?
or you just heard it from sb esle?
and this sb esle heard it from another sb else?
that is the way the rumor goes on.

Yes I have watched the footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
and you can watch the FOOTAGE too right here.
So let me get this straight. This time China is absolved of any blame becasue it MUST be a completely peaceful country? These things have happend, and such things continue to happen up to the present day.

[Kermit]

Awful. =(

[why]

Evenson wrote:

<quoted text>
China invaded Tibet, which WAS an independent, soverign nation till 1950.
China invaded India in in 1962, causing India to cess 38 000 square kilometres of territory.
In 1979, China invaded Vietnam with a force of over 85 000!
Gee so much For China not invading anyone in the past 100 years. Oh yeah and you forgot ot mention that between 1906 and 1949, China was in full scale civil war, with each other and the Japanese. How convenient that you forgot that too. Also, China is backing the DPRK regime, has been threatening Taiwan with invasion (and has over 800 missiles aimed at it), and it's recent military expansion has worried her neighbours.
China owes the world to become a democracy as soon as possible. It's human rights abuses, and the number iof people killed in two major Socialist inspired events (The Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward) killed over 49 000 000 people! And the CCP still say that Mao was only 30% wrong, 70% right. Plus the English did not invade in the last 100 years, and please tell me when the French invaded China also.

which word i should use on you?
can that be sutpid?
do you read books about chinese history?
do you know since when Tibet has been a part of China?
how can you use expression like "invade tibet"?
and China is trying to invade Taiwan?LOL.

God!

can you see that your stand is such an unfair?

If some super power is backing up a part of your country and trying to break up it? what will your government do?

Taiwan is nothing but a part of China. and US and Japan are backing up taiwan trying to get it away from China.

so... based on your theory, can I call Abram Lichon a invader? since he invaded part of the america?

and don't forget that is india who was provoking China at first and they are still doing it today, this is part of the reason why Tibet is so unstable.

Do you know how many money China put in Tibet trying to bring better living standard for Tibet people?

I don't give a dame to that footage. It's a shame. It's nothing but a lie. I have been tibet many time. its peace and beautiful. Tibet people and people from other part of China just get along with very well.

i love that place.

[Evenson]

why wrote:

<quoted text>
which word i should use on you?
can that be sutpid?
do you read books about chinese history?
do you know since when Tibet has been a part of China?
how can you use expression like "invade tibet"?
and China is trying to invade Taiwan?LOL.
God!
can you see that your stand is such an unfair?
If some super power is backing up a part of your country and trying to break up it? what will your government do?
Taiwan is nothing but a part of China. and US and Japan are backing up taiwan trying to get it away from China.
so... based on your theory, can I call Abram Lichon a invader? since he invaded part of the america?
and don't forget that is india who was provoking China at first and they are still doing it today, this is part of the reason why Tibet is so unstable.
Do you know how many money China put in Tibet trying to bring better living standard for Tibet people?
I don't give a dame to that footage. It's a shame. It's nothing but a lie. I have been tibet many time. its peace and beautiful. Tibet people and people from other part of China just get along with very well.
i love that place.

"do you know since when Tibet has been a part of China?
how can you use expression like "invade tibet"?"

Easy-that is what China did. They broke the Sino-Tibetan peace treaty from the 12th century:

http://www.tibetjustice.org/materials/treatie...

Tibet was completely independent from China till the invasion by the PRC in 1949.

"and China is trying to invade Taiwan"-they have nearly 800 short ranged missiles aimed at Taiwan, every year the PLA and PLA/N hold an exercise that envisions and amphibious invasion of Taiwan.And yes, I have read Chinese history books thank you very much. And nothing gives the Chinese the right to hold onto Tibet like they are doing.

"so... based on your theory, can I call Abram Lichon a invader? since he invaded part of the america"-He invaded Canada temporariy to make sure the British did not try another against his own country. He did not stay in Canada, nor did he illegally annex any part of Canada. China has done this to Tibet.

"Do you know how many money China put in Tibet trying to bring better living standard for Tibet people:-don't give me this rhetoric-how man Tibetans are left? Plus the British used the same excuse with the Chinese the Europeans with Asia-oh yeah that went really well didn't it? Also, the Chinsese government is just pouring money into the region for the purposesof control and exploitation, nothing more. Travel to India, see the Tibetan Cultural vilage set up by the Tibetans in exile, and also go talk to the Dalai Lama, and his Government in exile. Do not give me this rhetoric on how the CCP is making life better for the Tibetan people:

www.savetibet.org/programs/lotessay/2003/2ndp...

www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/preserving-cultu...

[Andrez Lopez]

In February of 1912, the last emperor of the Ching dynasty abdicated and the new Republic of China was formed. In the same year under the influence of the Briitsh rule in India, the Tibetans revolted against the central government in Peking. Taking the opportunity that the central government was weak and just beginning to get organized to govern, they revolted and fought the central government garrison of troops in Lhasa. If at the time Cnina had the CCP and the new railroad this separatist movement could not have happened. The Dalai Lama "reterned" to Tibet from India in July 1912 to take control of Tibet. In 1913, the separatist of Tibet and the separatist of Mongolia signed a treaty proclaiming mutual recognition and their INDEPENDENCE FROM CHINA. The separatist movement in Tibet was under the influence of the British colonial power in India and the separatist movementin Mongolia was under the influence of Russia. All these manipulation and orchestration was conceived in London and Moscow. China under Chiang Kai Sek's regime could not do anything because the KMT goverment was fighting the Japanese. China is still fighting the relics of European colonialism and warring ghost of Japan who want to resurrect with the blessing of our country.

[Andrez Lopez]

On Sept. 1, 2006 Aditya of Delhi, India wrote:
it's really a hair raising situation for me as I learnt that the route for china and tibet has been opend. It's indeed a step forward for a new civilisation. what hacinates me that apart from political tieups or business tieups, people of these two countries will know wach other and prosperous growth will born. this kind of understanding is indeed very necessary through out the world to gain peace and fraternity which will invariably stop wars and discrepancies. All the best to the people of these countries for showing the meaning of 'live and let live.'

Good expression of the spirit of Mahatma Gandhi, which is poles apart from the mischievious thinking of the Indians under the British colonial rule!

[why]

Stupid Evenson see what lopez said?
I won't bother to augue with you.
you are stupid and stubborn.

[why]

Let me teel you how many countries invaded china over 100 years past.
English, america, germany, french, japan, Italy, Austria...
Have ever seen in the foreigh musen how many chinese treasures are showing? and what behind that? they are robbers.

I have been visit Nangking masscre musem. I saw what jap did to china. Killed thousands of civillians.
raped thousands of women even little girls.
they used civillian to practice their shooting skils, stabbing skills...

China deserve to take a revenge to the whole world someday.

[Evenson]

why wrote:

Stupid Evenson see what lopez said?
I won't bother to augue with you.
you are stupid and stubborn.

No i just see past what teh CCP puts on it's website. YOU are stupid enough to believe anything they put on here.YOU love the fact that the Tibetans have been reduced to a virtual life of decadence and slavery, and also the fact that the ones who sem happy are usually the ones who have helped the Chinese in the first. YOU love the fact that one of the worlds most peaceful religions and spiritual leaders has been forced to flee their own country. YOU aqlso love the fact that nuns have been raped by cattle prods, virtually all of their 5000+ temples and monastaries were destroyed, the massacres etc.
I know what has happened becasue I accept the reality and history of what has happened. You live in a fairy land where everythnig that the CCP says must be true and righteous. Grow up and face reality. I'm surprised to see that you even acknowledged your countries role in WW2.

[Evenson]

Andrez Lopez wrote:

In February of 1912, the last emperor of the Ching dynasty abdicated and the new Republic of China was formed. In the same year under the influence of the Briitsh rule in India, the Tibetans revolted against the central government in Peking. Taking the opportunity that the central government was weak and just beginning to get organized to govern, they revolted and fought the central government garrison of troops in Lhasa. If at the time Cnina had the CCP and the new railroad this separatist movement could not have happened. The Dalai Lama "reterned" to Tibet from India in July 1912 to take control of Tibet. In 1913, the separatist of Tibet and the separatist of Mongolia signed a treaty proclaiming mutual recognition and their INDEPENDENCE FROM CHINA. The separatist movement in Tibet was under the influence of the British colonial power in India and the separatist movementin Mongolia was under the influence of Russia. All these manipulation and orchestration was conceived in London and Moscow. China under Chiang Kai Sek's regime could not do anything because the KMT goverment was fighting the Japanese. China is still fighting the relics of European colonialism and warring ghost of Japan who want to resurrect with the blessing of our country.

Taking a samll paragraph out of history like this is like looking at only a small section of a chart-you do not get the whole picture. You conveniently forgot to mention that China ILLEGALLY took Tibet during the 18th century, and THAT was only for an extremely short period of time.

http://tibet.dharmakara.net/tibethistory.html...

So China has no right to Tibet at all-no political, no military and no historical claim to the independent country of Tibet. See the real picture for a change.

[why]

Who believes the lies?
I once was in Chongqing.
There was a student prarade
and they lighgt some firecracks.
And I was there. and I saw it.

you know what i heard that night over VOA.they said chinese army fired at students and bullest sound like firecracks.

www.savetibet.org/
www.dharma-haven.org/

These two website just built by somebody like the VOA coverage I just mentioned.

So now who lives in fairyland? What you said just makes me laugh. It's time wasting thing to argue with you.

I'll just stay silence.

[Evenson]

why wrote:

Let me teel you how many countries invaded china over 100 years past.
English, america, germany, french, japan, Italy, Austria...
Have ever seen in the foreigh musen how many chinese treasures are showing? and what behind that? they are robbers.
I have been visit Nangking masscre musem. I saw what jap did to china. Killed thousands of civillians.
raped thousands of women even little girls.
they used civillian to practice their shooting skils, stabbing skills...
China deserve to take a revenge to the whole world someday.

Please tell me when Austria, Italy and Germany invaded China. Please enlighten me.

"Have ever seen in the foreigh musen how many chinese treasures are showing? and what behind that? they are robbers"-look into the history of the Communists in China- THEY destroyed virtually anything that linked their country with teh past, as to try and make sure that the only way for the people to look to was the future, never the past. This is made obvious with the virtual destruction of Confucianism and Taoism in China during the 1950's. So the Chinese can blame the CCP for destroying their history, not the Europeans.

" have been visit Nangking masscre musem. I saw what jap did to china. Killed thousands of civillians.
raped thousands of women even little girls.
they used civillian to practice their shooting skils, stabbing skills..."-the one thing that gets me when people argue this point is that they never seem to realise that the Chinese did exactly the same and,if possible, worse to the Tibetan people between the 1950's and the 1970's. THIS is why I do not like the CCP-bunch of power mad hypocrits.So the Chinese can play victim with what the Chinese did to them, but when they do the same to another country, it must be wrong. This is pathetic and horrible.