Same-sex marriage: Faiths' views are wide-ranging

When John Stansell was growing up in Nashville, Tenn., his family was in church any time "the church door was open." That has been the case the past 22 years as well.

[Richard Nolan]

In response to your "Same-sex marriage: Faiths' views are wide-ranging" - Both age 72 later this month, my partner of 53 years) and I will be married in CT (where we lived and were both educators for decades) when we return in June for our college class's 50th reunion. Moreover, I am also a retired Episcopal priest in good standing. We shall be married by a UCC minister in a church setting to be in line with CT diocesan policies. Why marry now? We live in West Palm Beach as registered domestic partners, but our attorney warned us that there is movement afoot by the radical religious right to obliterate the registry, as apparently happened in Michigan. Having been rushed to the hospital by ambulance about 5 times in recent years, I (we) need some sort of persuasive document that makes it clear that we are not strangers to each other. At this time there is a court case in progress in Miami re a lesbian couple kept apart during a hospitalization, and the patient died alone. Although our CT marriage certificate won't be recognized as such in Florida (a developing nation), it just might be persuasive. By the way, the hospital that was so cruel to the victimized couple would not recognize their advance directives as justification for visitations, including their health care surrogacy (because the patient was judged competent most of the time). We basically like living here as retirees, but in most locales the culture is 50 years behind Connecticut. The Governor is prepping for national candidacy, married recently, and is not about to do anything to spoil his carefully crafted, conservative image-in-the-making. We are very much looking forward to our sentimental journey to CT next month!

[JAM]

Kudos to CT.

Cheers, Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace
Washington CT USA

http://justicesofthepeace.blogspot.com

[Daniel P from Long Island]

Richard Nolan wrote:

In response to your "Same-sex marriage: Faiths' views are wide-ranging" - Both age 72 later this month, my partner of 53 years) and I will be married in CT (where we lived and were both educators for decades) when we return in June for our college class's 50th reunion. Moreover, I am also a retired Episcopal priest in good standing. We shall be married by a UCC minister in a church setting to be in line with CT diocesan policies. Why marry now? We live in West Palm Beach as registered domestic partners, but our attorney warned us that there is movement afoot by the radical religious right to obliterate the registry, as apparently happened in Michigan. Having been rushed to the hospital by ambulance about 5 times in recent years, I (we) need some sort of persuasive document that makes it clear that we are not strangers to each other. At this time there is a court case in progress in Miami re a lesbian couple kept apart during a hospitalization, and the patient died alone. Although our CT marriage certificate won't be recognized as such in Florida (a developing nation), it just might be persuasive. By the way, the hospital that was so cruel to the victimized couple would not recognize their advance directives as justification for visitations, including their health care surrogacy (because the patient was judged competent most of the time). We basically like living here as retirees, but in most locales the culture is 50 years behind Connecticut. The Governor is prepping for national candidacy, married recently, and is not about to do anything to spoil his carefully crafted, conservative image-in-the-making. We are very much looking forward to our sentimental journey to CT next month!

Congratulations ! Better late than never !

:)

I was born & raised Lutheran for 40 years. Been UCC the past 13 years.

PEACE !

:)

[Daniel P from Long Island]

One of the things that angers me is the attempts by the Catholics and other so-called "Christians" to present their opposition as monolithic within Christianity, when this is certainly not the case.

And EACH TIME then Catholic clergy speak out against gay marriage, we NEED MORE clergy to speak out in FAVOR of gay marriage EVEN LOUDER !

PLEASE do so !

PEACE !

:)

[robroy]

Fortunately, these are the same "churches" that are disappearing the fastest. The wages of sin is death.

"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

[Rose]

As long as they keep their faiths to themselves, no problem.

[Jerald]

Richard Nolan wrote:

... Although our CT marriage certificate won't be recognized as such in Florida (a developing nation), it just might be persuasive....

Florida a "developing nation"! Priceless. Thanks for the laugh; too bad it's really not all that funny when you think about it too deeply.

My best to you and your partner. You are two citizens who are certainly deserving of much better treatment by our nation and our states.

[Daniel P from Long Island]

Jerald wrote:

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Florida a "developing nation"! Priceless. Thanks for the laugh; too bad it's really not all that funny when you think about it too deeply.
My best to you and your partner. You are two citizens who are certainly deserving of much better treatment by our nation and our states.

Well, I think down there that except for the vast enclaves of New Yorkers, the natives are still marrying their cousins and wondering what the word "shoes" means.

:)

[Verad]

Richard Nolan wrote:

In response to your "Same-sex marriage: Faiths' views are wide-ranging" - Both age 72 later this month, my partner of 53 years) and I will be married in CT (where we lived and were both educators for decades) when we return in June for our college class's 50th reunion. Moreover, I am also a retired Episcopal priest in good standing. We shall be married by a UCC minister in a church setting to be in line with CT diocesan policies. Why marry now? We live in West Palm Beach as registered domestic partners, but our attorney warned us that there is movement afoot by the radical religious right to obliterate the registry, as apparently happened in Michigan. Having been rushed to the hospital by ambulance about 5 times in recent years, I (we) need some sort of persuasive document that makes it clear that we are not strangers to each other. At this time there is a court case in progress in Miami re a lesbian couple kept apart during a hospitalization, and the patient died alone. Although our CT marriage certificate won't be recognized as such in Florida (a developing nation), it just might be persuasive. By the way, the hospital that was so cruel to the victimized couple would not recognize their advance directives as justification for visitations, including their health care surrogacy (because the patient was judged competent most of the time). We basically like living here as retirees, but in most locales the culture is 50 years behind Connecticut. The Governor is prepping for national candidacy, married recently, and is not about to do anything to spoil his carefully crafted, conservative image-in-the-making. We are very much looking forward to our sentimental journey to CT next month!

Congratulations to you both!!!!

[Verad]

robroy wrote:

Fortunately, these are the same "churches" that are disappearing the fastest. The wages of sin is death.
"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

Thank goodness people are starting to see that the evangelical, ultra-conservative churches are full of hypocrites. About time.

[Truth]

(1Cor 6:9 [KJV])
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

(Rom 1:25 [KJV])
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

(Rom 1:26 [KJV])
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

(Rom 1:27 [KJV])
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

[Jerald]

Truth wrote:

(1Cor 6:9 [KJV])
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
(Rom 1:25 [KJV])
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
(Rom 1:26 [KJV])
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
(Rom 1:27 [KJV])
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Yawn.

[Publius]

Truth wrote:

(1Cor 6:9 [KJV])
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
(Rom 1:25 [KJV])
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
(Rom 1:26 [KJV])
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
(Rom 1:27 [KJV])
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Lev. 11:10 (KJV) "And all that have fins but not scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters; and of any living thing, which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you"

Lev. 18:19 (KJV) "Also thou shalt not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness."

Lev. 18:29 (KJV) "For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people"

Lev. 19:19 (KJV) "Thou shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind; thou shalt not sow thy field with miongled seed; neither shall a garment made of linen and woolen come upon thee."

[Daniel P from Long Island]

Publius wrote:

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Lev. 11:10 (KJV) "And all that have fins but not scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters; and of any living thing, which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you"
Lev. 18:19 (KJV) "Also thou shalt not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness."
Lev. 18:29 (KJV) "For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people"
Lev. 19:19 (KJV) "Thou shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind; thou shalt not sow thy field with miongled seed; neither shall a garment made of linen and woolen come upon thee."

Maybe God was drunk when he wrote these silly rules.

[former stamford resident]

I hope all you gay people will be happy when you meet up in hell. God bless.

[Quest]

former stamford resident wrote:

I hope all you gay people will be happy when you meet up in hell. God bless.

Can you read the hearts and souls of others, exactly as Jesus does?

You are saying here that you can, since you know who is saved and who is condemned.

Isn't standing in Jesus place to judge a sin?

[figures]

Truth wrote:

(1Cor 6:9 [KJV])
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
(Rom 1:25 [KJV])
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
(Rom 1:26 [KJV])
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
(Rom 1:27 [KJV])
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Stop hiding behind bible quotes and think for yourself, coward!

[Justice of the Peace]

Congratulations! I have been honored to perform many Connecticut Civil Unions and Same Sex Marriages over the past five years. These marriages threaten no one and only bring happiness into the lives of these families. Things are changing across the country and I'm happy to be a part of this change. Gay and lesbian couples are simply that, couples. Their love is no different than any other and we should respect their right to be legally wed. I am sure that some day it will be the rule across the land. Meantime, let the religious hold their own beliefs and not try to push them on others.

[Good Deal]

Why not just make up your own religion? Why twist others to your misconceptions? What that article doesn't tell us is how the memberships in those Churches is going down rapidly because, as with the general public, people don't want to be associated with such an obvious ignorance of the Bible!

These aren't cases where the existing congregations decide one day to support this. Liberal ministers get their feet in the door and bring in like minded followers. People defect and they now have the majority!

As for Bible quotes.... don't shoot the messenger!

[Darwin]

Daniel P from Long Island wrote:

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Well, I think down there that except for the vast enclaves of New Yorkers, the natives are still marrying their cousins and wondering what the word "shoes" means.
:)

Another prime example of the undeserved smug air of superiority that gays (and New Yorkers in general)exhibit. You ask for equality at the same time that you look down your noses at others. Look at your words and understand how they hurt others just as you claim to be hurt.