Crazy Baptist

Winnsboro, SC

#21 Oct 29, 2009
RuthTillman wrote:
I live in South Florida and I am trying to find out if there are any Christian counseling centers where they specialize in helping gay men. He is a teenager and acting out very badly. We had an all night prayer meeting at my church where some of the members and I made a prayer circle around him and just called on God for hours but there has been no change. I have had prayer sessions with church elders in his bedroom while he was at school and annointed the walls and his bed...we have just tried everything and it is very frustrating. I know God can move mountains and I need his help. If anyone knows of any place where I can send him for help please let me know and even if you can't help please pray for us. Thank you.
Mrs Tillman. What you have been taught in your church is probably correct as to how God feels or what God thinks or has said about homosexual sex.

I can not help you with a support group in your area. I don't know of any but what I can do is refute what some of these people here are saying to you as far as homosexuality being a sin or not. This is what the Holy Bible says:

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

Romans 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

Romans 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable ....

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

I am not telling you these things to hurt you or put you in any more agony than you must already be. This thing you are going thru is not going to be easy. Love your son. Try at all leangths not to put him into the streets. Pray every day. God answers the prayer of the sencere. I will pray for you.

CB

Christy

Villa Rica, GA

#22 Nov 16, 2009
RuthTillman wrote:
I live in South Florida and I am trying to find out if there are any Christian counseling centers where they specialize in helping gay men. He is a teenager and acting out very badly. We had an all night prayer meeting at my church where some of the members and I made a prayer circle around him and just called on God for hours but there has been no change. I have had prayer sessions with church elders in his bedroom while he was at school and annointed the walls and his bed...we have just tried everything and it is very frustrating. I know God can move mountains and I need his help. If anyone knows of any place where I can send him for help please let me know and even if you can't help please pray for us. Thank you.
I feel so sorry for your son. You have a wonderful gift from God, your child, and you are trying to make who he is into something bad. God doesn't make mistakes and your son did not choose to be gay, he simply is who he is. If you refuse to see that and continue to try to "change" your son, you could drive him from your life or worse, drive him to suicide. Is that what you want??
Why not try loving your son instead of telling him theres something "wrong" with him??
I WILL pray for you, I'll pray that you see the truth before you drive your son from your life forever.
keepnsane

Dalton, GA

#23 Dec 4, 2009
Look, the reality is you don't know what led to your son's situation. He may have been seduced or molested. He clearly got in over his head in his life on many levels.
He could be on drugs. All you know is that he is in a crisis.
You can "hate the sin" but definitely love the sinner. it is a tough road in this generation, being gay or bi is very mainstream today. He may be gay, he may be confused.
You cannot allow hate, fear & rejection to come from you. If a parent can't love him, how is he going to know that God can.
I know this is all easier said than done. You dedicated him to God, and God will take care of him.
Milly

Tualatin, OR

#24 Dec 4, 2009
You know god made this world and us, and regardless what anyone thinks or believes he loves us like a mother loves her child after birth. I personaly think god wouldnt send us to hell for loving someone. Thats what he wants is for everyone to love each other. So what its not what you would do there are lots of things we wont understand or do in our lives and it doesnt mean we should hate and judge what we dont do or know about. Last thing I have to say why are we all waisting our precious time on earth judging what other people do? We should be loving what time we get with the people we love. Let god do the judging. Its not your job to ruins someones life trying to put them in a bubble you think iis perfect. We she love what we get and cherish it all instead of wasiting our time doing gods job. In the end only god can make the finaly judgement. Let him guide us.
Jesus Saves

United States

#25 Dec 25, 2009
Ruth. I am faced with the same issue and I live in South Florida as well. http://www.exodus-international.org/ is a great resource but I am finding difficultly locating a Christian Counselor as well. You also must realize that this issue is to be treated the same as any addiction, yet it is twofold. Porn as well as homosexuality. Keep on praying for Godly wisdom. If you locate a counselor, please let me know. thanks.
Christy

Douglasville, GA

#26 Dec 28, 2009
Before you do more harm than good with these so-called "coversion therapies", maybe you should take a look at what the American Psychological Association has to say about the matter.

http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientat...
Christy

Douglasville, GA

#27 Dec 28, 2009
My apologies, the word should be "conversion", not "coversion."
JiD

Auckland, New Zealand

#28 Feb 22, 2010
I am a christian and I dont get why Homosexuality is such a big deal. You cant choose what and who you like. I believe God made people the way they are, because after all he does have a plan for all of us. Or maybe Im too young to understand all this. Lol
Digusted

Calgary, Canada

#29 Mar 9, 2010
It's pretty obvious how much you
love your son, I Mean. Changing him so you won't look bad . I mean seriously good job most gay kids that go through Councelling end up with depression that can lead to suicide. this is one of the hardest things a kid can deal with and when someone he
loves the most doesn't accept him it's devastating. Tip for the future , try love I know it's a crazy idea but just try it .
anonymous

Woodbury, NJ

#30 Jun 1, 2010
THANK GOD MY PARENTS ARE NOT LIKE YOU. I SERIOUSLY THINK I WOULD MOVE OUT, AND NEVER TALK TO YOU AGAIN. f*CKING B!TCH
bubba

Elberfeld, IN

#31 Jun 16, 2010
Ha Ha Ha now that was a funny thing to say.
mscapricorn3

Cincinnati, OH

#32 Jun 27, 2010
premio53 wrote:
<quoted text>
Rather than offend homosexuals by directly confronting the issue of their sinful lifestyle, modern evangelism often tries to soften the approach by saying that "God hates the sin, but loves the sinner." This isn’t a new concept.
Charles Finney stated, "God is not angry merely against the sin abstracted from the sinner, but against the sinner himself. Some persons have labored hard to set up this ridiculous and absurd abstraction, and would fain make it appear that God is angry at sin, yet not at the sinner. He hates the theft, but loves the thief. He abhors adultery, but is pleased with the adulterer. Now this is supreme nonsense. The sin has no moral character apart from the sinner. The act is nothing apart from the actor. The very thing that God hates and disapproves is not the mere event—the thing done in distinction from the doer; but it is the doer himself. It grieves and displeases Him that a rational moral agent, under His government, should array himself against his own God and Father, against all that is right and just in the universe. This is the thing that offends God. The sinner himself is the direct and the only object of his anger."
So the Bible shows. God is angry with the wicked [Psalm 7:11], not with the abstract sin. If the wicked turn not, God will whet His sword—He has bent His bow and made it ready—not to shoot at the sin, but the sinner—the wicked man who has done the abominable thing. This is the only doctrine of either the Bible or of common sense on this subject" (The Guilt of Sin).
The biblical way to witness to a homosexual is not to argue with him about his lifestyle but to use the Law to bring the knowledge of sin. This will show him that he is guilty of breaking God’s holy Law, and he is damned not because of, but despite his sexual preference. The Law was made for homosexuals, as well as other lawbreakers. See Psalm 5:5 (The Evidence Bible)
correction is right
mscapricorn3

Cincinnati, OH

#33 Jun 27, 2010
Correction is absolutely right...You correct your children..Show love to them in any case..Love is correction. A parent's job is to correct our children with explanation of what and why the acting out is occurring...Yes. homosexsuality is a form of acting out a fear of something..Find out the fear and correct the reason
mscapricorn3

Cincinnati, OH

#34 Jun 28, 2010
RuthTillman wrote:
My son is not a self-confessed Christian. He has, however agreed to counseling as an alternative to being turned out of the house.
Correction is what your son needs..

“Ahimsa”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#35 Jun 28, 2010
mscapricorn3 wrote:
Correction is absolutely right...You correct your children..Show love to them in any case..Love is correction. A parent's job is to correct our children with explanation of what and why the acting out is occurring...Yes. homosexsuality is a form of acting out a fear of something..Find out the fear and correct the reason
Yes, a good parent does indeed correct their child....when there is reason for correction. Homosexuality is NOT a form of acting out, whether from fear or anything else, and it's rubbish for you to spread untruths. Gay/lesbians are perfectly normal and, when treated as human beings, they are as well adjusted as any of us.
Parents who try to "change" a basic part of who their child is are just asking for that child to rebel and possibly even commit suicide. A person knows their truth at at early age. I knew that I "liked" boys when I was in kindergarten and I've heard many of my gay friends say it was the same for them. Of course, their innocent attractions were to the same sex. This is not something that one wakes up to one day and says "I think I'll be gay." Our sexual orientation is a fundamental part of each of us.
I hate facists

United States

#36 Aug 26, 2010
RuthTillman wrote:
I live in South Florida and I am trying to find out if there are any Christian counseling centers where they specialize in helping gay men. He is a teenager and acting out very badly. We had an all night prayer meeting at my church where some of the members and I made a prayer circle around him and just called on God for hours but there has been no change. I have had prayer sessions with church elders in his bedroom while he was at school and annointed the walls and his bed...we have just tried everything and it is very frustrating. I know God can move mountains and I need his help. If anyone knows of any place where I can send him for help please let me know and even if you can't help please pray for us. Thank you.
Your son doesn't need help! You do. No one picks to be gay you demented nasty old bitch. Go see a psychiatrist and not one of you superstitious "Christian" counselors who sound like witch doctors. GET HELP FOR YOURSELF SOON! Either that or a brain transplant. BECAUSE YOU ARE A HATE FILLED OLD BITCH WHO WON"T ACCEPT YOUR OWN SON> SHAME ON YOU! You are an a$$hole!
Mathew345-23

Pennsburg, PA

#38 Sep 6, 2010
RuthTillman wrote:
I live in South Florida and I am trying to find out if there are any Christian counseling centers where they specialize in helping gay men. He is a teenager and acting out very badly. We had an all night prayer meeting at my church where some of the members and I made a prayer circle around him and just called on God for hours but there has been no change. I have had prayer sessions with church elders in his bedroom while he was at school and annointed the walls and his bed...we have just tried everything and it is very frustrating. I know God can move mountains and I need his help. If anyone knows of any place where I can send him for help please let me know and even if you can't help please pray for us. Thank you.
I can suggest Christshari'ahn Counseling Center in Ponte Vedra.

Also, the site christwire.org is invaluable. In case your son has a dog or a cat the site has a wonderful article on whether gay pets go to heaven.
LastChristian

Canoga Park, CA

#39 Sep 14, 2010
You might try looking into [url=http://www.narth.com/inde x.html]NARTH[/url].

That and lots of prayer
Jesus Friend

Rising Sun, MD

#40 Sep 14, 2010
leave him alone .... he is fine .. Gay is OK.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/beliefs.html
Ignorance

Fort Worth, TX

#41 Sep 16, 2010
I hate Christians. You people preach brotherly love, acceptance, and forgiveness, yet at the same time, this woman is sending her son to counseling for something as simple as sexual orientation. And guess what? IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHOICE. Shocking to you, I know. There are several scientific studies that show that sexual orientation is something a baby is born with. You may think it's not true, but it makes a lot more sense than a imaginary demon. You should accept your son for who he is, or he may just blow his brains out. Seriously, get your head out of your asses before you make him do something you'll regret the rest of his life.

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