SBC Urges Members to Combat U.S. Church Decline

Mar 27, 2008 | Posted by: Paul Zannucci | Full story: www.christianpost.com

The nation's largest Protestant denomination intends to utilize a church planting day to raise awareness among congregants on the need to plant churches in light of declining numbers in the United States.

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Mar 27, 2008
 
Felt compelled to do a piece on this on my block. Seems an odd way to raise the number of parishioners.

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Mar 27, 2008
 
Paul, I like your article and agree. While it is nice to have a new church (and this actually does work) the reason for building a new church should be due to the fact that the old one is too small for the number of people. Personally, I like the older churches. I dont care much for the "new style" of churches. They are too loud and dont really seem to be focused on what is most important, not that they are bad, just not right.

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Religion is dying. Just like human sacrifice, cannibalism, and other barbarities die off as societies become enlightened, religion will die off as we learn more about the cosmos and our species.

It's just a matter of time. Just like an organism that goes through many small changes over time until it is no longer recognizable as the thing it started out as, so too will religion have the same fate--to be a vestige that no longer serves a purpose. Our future decedents will think we were illogical, credulous barbarians.

Too bad I won't live to see it happen; I would love to see that day...

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Mar 28, 2008
 
Thanks Kerdy.

It's funny you mention "they are too loud." My parents just started going to one of these new churches (because it's close to where they moved) and their only complaint is that it is almost unbearably loud. About a year or so ago I visited, out of curiosity, a "praise and worship" service at a rapidly growing Baptist church that has its own private school linked to it. Afterward, my ears rang the same way they used to when I was a kid and would go to rock concerts. Just amazingly loud. I wonder what the point of that is?

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Reasoner wrote:
Religion is dying. Just like human sacrifice, cannibalism, and other barbarities die off as societies become enlightened, religion will die off as we learn more about the cosmos and our species.
It's just a matter of time. Just like an organism that goes through many small changes over time until it is no longer recognizable as the thing it started out as, so too will religion have the same fate--to be a vestige that no longer serves a purpose. Our future decedents will think we were illogical, credulous barbarians.
Too bad I won't live to see it happen; I would love to see that day...
La-la-la-la-laaaah! What? I couldnt here you due to the fact that you are being ignored.

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Paul Zannucci wrote:
Thanks Kerdy.
It's funny you mention "they are too loud." My parents just started going to one of these new churches (because it's close to where they moved) and their only complaint is that it is almost unbearably loud. About a year or so ago I visited, out of curiosity, a "praise and worship" service at a rapidly growing Baptist church that has its own private school linked to it. Afterward, my ears rang the same way they used to when I was a kid and would go to rock concerts. Just amazingly loud. I wonder what the point of that is?
The only point is to look cool and get young people in. Hey, I wont knock it if it gets young people saved, but it isnt my thing. I go to church to worship, learn, and fellowship. If I wanted to jam out I would go to a concert. Another thing I have noticed, and I have no way of knowing for sure, is that it appears that some of these people get caught up in the "act" verses the worship. Maybe because I am not an outwardly emotional person and I just dont understand it, but it seems wrong to me.

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I think one thing that results in decline of traditional churches, no matter how solid they are, is an overemphasis on certain issues like church attendance and tithes, and not enough on issues that are also biblical, but they are suspicious of them.

All one has to do is mention the holy spirit or his gifts and the door shuts.

I would never recommend extremism, like is seen in some churches, but there is a power that the holy spirit has, and it is viewed with suspicion instead of acceptance. Since SBC is very faithful in interpretation of the Word, they would be expected to be the most careful if using the gifts of the holy spirit. Instead, it is afraid of them, and they quench the spirit instead.

For example, I expressed interest recently in joining a local baptist church, but as soon as I stated a belief in miracles, gifts of the holy spirit, and healing by God, I was referred elsewhere. The church should not be a desert - dry as a bone. It should be alive, with everything God wants us to have.

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Marianne Tioran wrote:
For example, I expressed interest recently in joining a local baptist church, but as soon as I stated a belief in miracles, gifts of the holy spirit, and healing by God, I was referred elsewhere.
What? I must apologize being a Baptist myself. Keep in mind that there are over 200 types of Baptist churches and some of them make me wonder why they are even called Christian.

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Marianne Tioran wrote:
I think one thing that results in decline of traditional churches, no matter how solid they are, is an overemphasis on certain issues like church attendance and tithes, and not enough on issues that are also biblical, but they are suspicious of them.
All one has to do is mention the holy spirit or his gifts and the door shuts.
I would never recommend extremism, like is seen in some churches, but there is a power that the holy spirit has, and it is viewed with suspicion instead of acceptance. Since SBC is very faithful in interpretation of the Word, they would be expected to be the most careful if using the gifts of the holy spirit. Instead, it is afraid of them, and they quench the spirit instead.
How right you are! Some focus on appearance, did you give 50 or 100 dollars this week. The pastor need another 700 dollar designer suit. Things like that bother me! While I dont think the fire and brimstone messages need to be done weekly, more churches today only teach of the nice things, the pretty things. They forget that there is real teeth in the Word of God that people need to hear. I once told someone that if you walk out of church EVERY Sunday feeling good aobut yourself, someone isnt doing their job and his name is Preacher.

I think church member should become more active in politics! Notice I said members, not the church itself. Christians are the silent majority in this country and its time that changes. We cant be silent when someone says "seperation of church and state". First, show me where that is in the constitution. It isnt. Second, maybe to keep government out of church and keep the church from taking over the government was the idea behind this thought. American is literally going to hell and we are doing so in a muscle car, pedal to the metal, wearing a smile on our faces. To grow the church, teach fundamental biblical doctrine. That is all it takes. Live how we are supposed to live and be role models for each other, our children and the lost. Ok, off my soap box. Sorry.
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There's an old saying among Christians:
Episcopalians are Presbyterians with proper, genteel manners, and Presbyterians are rich Methodists, and Methodists are just Baptists that have an education.

Maybe Southern Baptists are moving up the "church food chain." Meaning our members are leaving to go to the Methodist church(which happens to be the 2nd largest Protestant group in the US) or higher because they graduated high school and finally went to college or something, then graduated college and realized they feel uncomfortable over the others that didn't have the opportunities they had and more comfortable in the Methodist church. By the way, I being serious, and not trying to be mean; I'm a Southern Baptist myself- born and raised.

I personally knew a church family that became rich and immediately went to the Presbyterian church across town after that. My husband says that they didn't have come from a good enough school and didn't had those "sissy, soft manners" (his words, not mine) to be accepted in the "flowery" Episcopal church or else they would have joined right away.

WHo cares if folks are leaving our churches, if they're like those families I know, then let them leave! They're stuck up and their children always acted like they were better than my kids just because they went to the College of Charleston for accounting and law (my kids went to a nearby city's community college, and thank the Lord they got good jobs in this economy- my girl's a nursing home aid and my son's a successful mechanic at one of the biggest car dealership in town). They acted like it's Stanford or Yale or something. They were usually outwardly nice but not really caring to others in the church and they had that sense of "I'm better than you" glint in their eyes... so if people are fixing to leave the Southern Baptist churches and our Convention, let them leave.

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GospelLight wrote:
WHo cares if folks are leaving our churches, if they're like those families I know, then let them leave! They're stuck up and their children always acted like they were better than my kids just because they went to the College of Charleston for accounting and law ...... resentment continues
I might avoid you as well seeing that you like to talk smack about people.

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Kerdy 1 wrote:
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The only point is to look cool and get young people in. Hey, I wont knock it if it gets young people saved, but it isnt my thing. I go to church to worship, learn, and fellowship. If I wanted to jam out I would go to a concert. Another thing I have noticed, and I have no way of knowing for sure, is that it appears that some of these people get caught up in the "act" verses the worship. Maybe because I am not an outwardly emotional person and I just dont understand it, but it seems wrong to me.
I go to a "very" contemporary church and my ears don't ring...could be the acoustics...

I thought of the "act" too, early on, but when I saw that it was pure worship, to each their own as I am also somewhat reserved...
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The Southern Baptist Convention can start investigating America's declining church membership by looking at the number of abortions in this country and checking out the web-site of Life Dynamics Incorporated!!!

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<quoted text>I might avoid you as well seeing that you like to talk smack about people.
LMAO.. and you DON'T? OMG I can't believe this post!

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GospelLight wrote:
There's an old saying among Christians:
Episcopalians are Presbyterians with proper, genteel manners, and Presbyterians are rich Methodists, and Methodists are just Baptists that have an education.
Good thing I was a Lutheran then...Now EFC
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Good thing I was a Lutheran then...Now EFC
Which stands for Entirely F@cking Crazy.

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Lord Quiggy wrote:
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Which stands for Entirely F@cking Crazy.
Hmmm, LQ stands for EFC...

Thanks for admitting it....
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Hmmm, LQ stands for EFC...
Thanks for admitting it....
Now if only you would admit that the only reason you don't like our president is because he is half black...

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