Southern Baptists debate gay vs. civi...

Southern Baptists debate gay vs. civil rights

There are 114 comments on the WHDH story from Jun 20, 2012, titled Southern Baptists debate gay vs. civil rights. In it, WHDH reports that:

A day after electing their first African-American president, Southern Baptists were considering a resolution Wednesday opposing the idea that gay rights are the same as civil rights.

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“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#109 Jun 26, 2012
If blacks could pass, like homosexuals always have; there would have been no civil rights struggle. Homosexuals have always enjoyed the same rights as the majority.

“Where's my fairy wand!”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#110 Jun 26, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Laughable? Seems to me being a pedophile no matter how disgusting it is or that it's against the law, it's still a sexual preference same as being gay. Wasn't too long ago, being a Queer was considered taboo. Now you all deem it the next best thing since cell phones. Won't be long before these freaks start wanting their equal rights just like you Queers been preaching.
Now you're just being silly.

Being a pedophile is not so much a preference as it is a mental issue. Stop drawing wild comparisons and conclusions.

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#111 Jun 26, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Every peer reviewed scientific study on the subject proves that homosexuals can and do change. Human sexuality is developmental in nature and not immutable.
NAMBLA marched in the Sanfrangomorrah Homosexual Arrogance Parade for years. Don't they still?
Repeating something over and over does not magically make it fact or reality. Despite your oft-repeated mantra about "every peer reviewed scientific study...proves that homosexuals can and do change," that is an utter, 100% lie. The exact opposite is true. Even Alan Chambers, Mr. Ex-Gay Therapy himself, recently admitted that “The majority of people that I have met, and I would say the majority meaning 99.9 percent of them, have not experienced a change in their orientation...". Your wanting your words to be true does not make it so.

And no, NAMBLA does not march in any parades that I am aware of, I doubt if it even exists any more, say for the last 20 or so years at least. You must get that information from the same antiquated place you get your information on peer reviewed scientific studies - your imagination.
Professor Bubblegum Shoe

Alpharetta, GA

#113 Jun 26, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Sorry but I consider being homosexual a mental issue. Can't control your desires same as a pedophile. Think about it.
You have outlived your education; so here is your chance to catch up:
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Sex orientation and pedophilic paraphilia are two different unrelated subjects (4 pages):
http://www.medicinenet.com/paraphilia/article...
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Now you know ;o))
Doctor Lickalotta

Alpharetta, GA

#114 Jun 26, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Every peer reviewed scientific study on the subject proves that homosexuals can and do change. Human sexuality is developmental in nature and not immutable.
NAMBLA marched in the Sanfrangomorrah Homosexual Arrogance Parade for years. Don't they still?
The problem with your theory is all the 'peer reviewers' are senile elderly straight people in their nineties (and their nighties); who never met an Authentic Borngay Person in real life
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So here is the Real Deal from the American Medical Association (AMA) February 19, 2011:
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Gay people are born with a different brain and spinal cord; body parts that are not interchangeable with straight people. On autopsy; the differences are visible to the naked eye
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"Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity are conferred during the first 12 weeks of gestation, and they are irreversible"
http://media01.commpartners.com/AMA/sexual_id...
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Now you know ;o))
Bob

Pekin, IL

#116 Jun 26, 2012
qwerty26 wrote:
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Repeating something over and over does not magically make it fact or reality. Despite your oft-repeated mantra about "every peer reviewed scientific study...proves that homosexuals can and do change," that is an utter, 100% lie. The exact opposite is true. Even Alan Chambers, Mr. Ex-Gay Therapy himself, recently admitted that “The majority of people that I have met, and I would say the majority meaning 99.9 percent of them, have not experienced a change in their orientation...". Your wanting your words to be true does not make it so.
And no, NAMBLA does not march in any parades that I am aware of, I doubt if it even exists any more, say for the last 20 or so years at least. You must get that information from the same antiquated place you get your information on peer reviewed scientific studies - your imagination.
I'm sure your bigotry and unscientific bent won't let you comprehend these facts, but here they are for any open minded person: http://narXth.com/main-issues/what-do-clinica... (remove the X)

NAMBLA apparently was in the San Francisco Homosexual Arrogance Parade until 2009. Nancy Pelosi even marched with NAMBLA advocate Harry Hay: http://www.mantecabulletin.com/archives/8094/

Of course we've all seen the current story of yet another HRC leader being busted for kiddy porn.

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#117 Jun 26, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure your bigotry and unscientific bent won't let you comprehend these facts, but here they are for any open minded person: http://narXth.com/main-issues/what-do-clinica... (remove the X)
NAMBLA apparently was in the San Francisco Homosexual Arrogance Parade until 2009. Nancy Pelosi even marched with NAMBLA advocate Harry Hay: http://www.mantecabulletin.com/archives/8094/
Of course we've all seen the current story of yet another HRC leader being busted for kiddy porn.
Oh yeah, NARTH. The group that had George Rekers on its board until he resigned in disgrace because he was caught still being gay. The group that every reputable scientific and sociological group eschews. The group who relies on another of George Rekers' pets, the American College of Pediatricians, a small phony group of right-wing gay bashers, not to be confused with their legitimate actual science-based cousin, the American Adademy of Pediatrics.

And you do know that Harry Hay was not exactly a cornerstone of the gay rights movement, right? He got lots of flak for his radical ideas. You can find outliers in every organization and movement, and generalizing about the entire organization or movement on the basis of one or two anecdotal cases puts you on shaky ground. Anecdote does not equal data.

I could generalize that all christians are bigoted pigs from the example of Anita Bryant or George Briggs, for example (or perhaps you if you claim to be a christian). But I don't. So you get back to your avid reading of all your mimeographed tracts from your right wing bigots, but don't expect thinking persons to subscribe to your beliefs on your say-so.
Bob

Pekin, IL

#118 Jun 26, 2012
qwerty26 wrote:
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Oh yeah, NARTH. The group that had George Rekers on its board until he resigned in disgrace because he was caught still being gay. The group that every reputable scientific and sociological group eschews. The group who relies on another of George Rekers' pets, the American College of Pediatricians, a small phony group of right-wing gay bashers, not to be confused with their legitimate actual science-based cousin, the American Adademy of Pediatrics.
And you do know that Harry Hay was not exactly a cornerstone of the gay rights movement, right? He got lots of flak for his radical ideas. You can find outliers in every organization and movement, and generalizing about the entire organization or movement on the basis of one or two anecdotal cases puts you on shaky ground. Anecdote does not equal data.
I could generalize that all christians are bigoted pigs from the example of Anita Bryant or George Briggs, for example (or perhaps you if you claim to be a christian). But I don't. So you get back to your avid reading of all your mimeographed tracts from your right wing bigots, but don't expect thinking persons to subscribe to your beliefs on your say-so.
Few of the studies cited involved NARTH. You remain exposed as a liar.

NARTH is an academic group and is neither right wing nor Christian.

Your ad hominems don't hide the truth, liar.

The next time you read of a young homosexual's suicide, remember how you and other hateful old homosexuals lied to him and told him he could never change.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#119 Jun 26, 2012
So the church opposes government recognizing a new form of marriage, I can understand that.

TomInElPaso

“Impeach the reality show actor”

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#120 Jun 26, 2012
Tell us what it was like for you when you changed. Till the you're nothing but an asshat.
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Few of the studies cited involved NARTH. You remain exposed as a liar.
NARTH is an academic group and is neither right wing nor Christian.
Your ad hominems don't hide the truth, liar.
The next time you read of a young homosexual's suicide, remember how you and other hateful old homosexuals lied to him and told him he could never change.
Gage

Pekin, IL

#122 Jun 27, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
Tell us what it was like for you when you changed. Till the you're nothing but an asshat.
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Why do you keep exposing your self hatred by trying to project your homosexuality as an insult. It just makes YOU look pathetic.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#123 Jun 27, 2012
The issue isn't gay vs. civil rights; same sex marriage is special rights to justify gender segregation in marriage. Civil rights are for individual freedom but gay rights are for special mascot victim groups to facilitate dividing the citizenry along sexual predilection.

Civil rights unite; same sex marriage destroys the gender diversity of an ideal cultural family model.

TomInElPaso

“Impeach the reality show actor”

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#124 Jun 27, 2012
What business isit of yours. Was I talking to you prick? Oh wait, are you one of those fcuking trolls who change name more often than you brush your teeth after eating out your wife?
You sure you want to talk about pathetic? Maggot mouth!
Gage wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you keep exposing your self hatred by trying to project your homosexuality as an insult. It just makes YOU look pathetic.
England 2012

Uttoxeter, UK

#125 Jun 27, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
How do I know that the Bible is TRUE ??? Because it came straight from God to my pastor's brain thru his mouth to my ears into my fingers onto my keyboard and there it is on YOUR screen so I KNOW it's true !

:)

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So you believe everything your pastor tells you? Mmm, let me guess, you have a very poor education, have prob never left the US and were brainwashed by your parents. are you one of the snake handling, speak gibberish in "tongues" and believe t Rex was on Noahs ark?

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