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Is Religious Right Conceding on Gay Rights Issues?

There are 228 comments on the EDGEptown.com News Feed v1.0 story from Mar 27, 2011, titled Is Religious Right Conceding on Gay Rights Issues?. In it, EDGEptown.com News Feed v1.0 reports that:

The head of the Southern Baptists is among a growing number of conservative & evangelical Christians who's conceded that gay marriage is inevitable.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#225 Oct 8, 2011
Gary47 wrote:
they don't flaunt, because they (genuine ex gays) don't exist. the ex gay 'ministries' are frauds. all credible research shows you can't change sexual orientation.<quoted text>
Flaunting sexuality? Does this qualify?
http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/say-yes-to-th...

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#226 Oct 8, 2011

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#227 Oct 10, 2011
Intohishands wrote:
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And again you Conpletely twist what I'm saying. He gave us The Church who gave us the bible, surely the Church who had the authority to give us the bible has authority to interpet it. I'm no bible scholar but I've read enough of the explanations of different interpretations to see which ones make sense. One has to wonder if the fact you find it all so confusing is because you can't make it say what you want it to.
God plays no games. I'm pretty sure being nailed to a cross wasn't a whole lot of fun. Your analogy of a child on the hwy is so far off the mark of the God I know and describe as to be laughable, much like your backing of the cliff analogy you fail to acknowledge the many ways God talks to us. I can see how it's easier to just believe the way you do. Do you believe that Satan exists? Do you believe that there is a battle for our souls?
You are believing what you wish to believe. We all do. You believe that the Catholic Church is omnipotent and God-given because you *want* to believe it. Everyone believes that of whatever their chosen religious beliefs are.

But there's no evidence to support that other than the people running the church saying so and, frankly, why *wouldn't* they say that?? Would you expect them to say, "We're really just making all this God stuff up as we go along to keep ourselves housed and fed." That would be even crazier than what they ARE doing.

The point I'm trying to make, that you keep rejecting outright, is that God gave us brains and consciences to USE them. Not to simply walk through life in lock-step with what someone else tells you you should be doing. I believe that refusing to use the brain God gave you to question and learn is the ultimate insult to God.

And, no, I don't believe in the Satan that you believe in (or hell, for that matter). The "Satan" I believe in exists inside all of us, as does what you consider the "battle for our souls". It's the ever-present battle we fight in ourselves between doing what's RIGHT and doing what we *want* to do. They're not always the same thing, are they? And I believe that by how we deal with that inner battle, we either create out own heaven or hell right here on Earth.

But I will never believe that there's a God somewhere standing by the sidelines of a great cosmic game he's created, keeping score and watching as some people are sent to burn in hell forever while others (the "worthy" ones) get to come live with him. That's just nuts.

Do YOU believe that God will allow your son to burn in hell forever if he falls in love with another man and spends his life with him in a loving, committed relationship?

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#228 Oct 10, 2011
heartandmind wrote:
..aww, shucks...LOL.
there was a lutheran pastor a couple yrs ago that made a public statement to the press about there were bigger problems that faced christianity than the issue of "homosexuality".
fundamentalists will withdraw when faced with other denominations when they should be instead working with them to "cure the ails of society" - hunger, homelessness, despair, etc. it sickens me when i read or hear christians or politicians discussing cutting publics funds to agencies that help these fronts - the ones that need it the most are looked down upon the most by these so called self avowed christians without pity or remorse. instead, the thought that should be running through their pretty little heads is "there but for the grace of God go I". i'm disgusted by fundamentalists that think that too much money is spent on these people...when they oppose abortion and believe in the death penalty....when they won't help the poor and needy.
sorry, this is a bit of soap box for me, hence the diatribe. maybe if these fundamentalists would talk out of both sides of their mouths they might be a little more believable....
i guess i've ticked off enough people at this point. LOL. carry on, eJohn.
This past weekend I saw Gov. Rick Perry on TV bragging about how he cut funding to Planned parenthood. He had just finished a long ramble about God and how every human life is valuable. The Liberty Counsel Logo prominently displayed behind him.

And as hard as I tried I just couldn't reconcile his claims with his opposition to gays and lesbians getting married, adopting or having the same rights and 'Constitutional protections' he affords an unborn fetus.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#229 Oct 11, 2011
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>This past weekend I saw Gov. Rick Perry on TV bragging about how he cut funding to Planned parenthood. He had just finished a long ramble about God and how every human life is valuable. The Liberty Counsel Logo prominently displayed behind him.
And as hard as I tried I just couldn't reconcile his claims with his opposition to gays and lesbians getting married, adopting or having the same rights and 'Constitutional protections' he affords an unborn fetus.
yeah, you're equal until you come out....

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#230 Oct 11, 2011
heartandmind wrote:
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yeah, you're equal until you come out....
so I should just be grateful I can pass in white society?
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#231 Oct 11, 2011
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>so I should just be grateful I can pass in white society?
well, yeah, but unless they think you're a man, that is. because, afterall, women are beneath men and aren't worthy of anything except to take care of them and deserve no voice at home or in the church.....

it's amazing to me how many denominations and faith actually package and sell that to their congregants. how is it that any modern american woman would fall for that nonsense?

i've asked repeatedly about what about an elderly lady who's husband has passed? who speaks for her in those churches where women have no voice? if she were a child, her father would. if she were married, her husband would. so when she's suddenly a widow, she's got no advocate for her in the church building...so only her money's good in the plate but her thoughts ideas and words aren't worthy enough to consider or listen to. no one's been able to give me a reasonable answer for that common scenario.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#232 Oct 11, 2011
heartandmind wrote:
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well, yeah, but unless they think you're a man, that is. because, afterall, women are beneath men and aren't worthy of anything except to take care of them and deserve no voice at home or in the church.....
it's amazing to me how many denominations and faith actually package and sell that to their congregants. how is it that any modern american woman would fall for that nonsense?
i've asked repeatedly about what about an elderly lady who's husband has passed? who speaks for her in those churches where women have no voice? if she were a child, her father would. if she were married, her husband would. so when she's suddenly a widow, she's got no advocate for her in the church building...so only her money's good in the plate but her thoughts ideas and words aren't worthy enough to consider or listen to. no one's been able to give me a reasonable answer for that common scenario.
You just reminded me of something someone I met at a Special Olympics said to me:

"You know what's better than being a medal winner at the Special Olympics"

"Not being seen as just another retard"

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