Gay clubs should not be in our schools

Gay clubs should not be in our schools

Posted in the Southern Baptist Forum

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
equalityboy81

United States

#1 Feb 5, 2009
VIEWPOINT ~~ Gay clubs should not be in our schools

By Dennis Todd/Amelia Island

http://www.fbnewsleader.com/articles/2009/02/...

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#2 Feb 6, 2009
I do not think homosexual clubs should be allowed in schools either.
equalityboy81

Niceville, FL

#3 Feb 9, 2009
Well I do. I don't think a person's religious beliefs should be able to dictate what people can and cannot have. So I guess you are also saying that the Christian Athletes shouldn't be allowed in school either. Why do Christians get special rights? Why do they get to have their club and not the gays? That's un-American, un-Christian, unconstitutional, and plain unfair.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#4 Feb 9, 2009
equalityboy81 wrote:
Well I do. I don't think a person's religious beliefs should be able to dictate what people can and cannot have.
Well, in turn, I dont think a persons sexual preferences and desires should be able to dictate what people can and cannot have. How is that?
equalityboy81 wrote:
So I guess you are also saying that the Christian Athletes shouldn't be allowed in school either.
Not at all. That has nothing to do with it. Two entirely different entities. I dont even know how you can relate them to one another. Instead of apples & oranges, its more like apples and iron ore.
equalityboy81 wrote:
Why do Christians get special rights?
Well, first of all, they dont get special rights. Secondly, if they did, religious practice and expression is a constitutionally protected right. Homosexuality isnt. As a matter of fact, heterosexuality isnt either. Are you going to be ok with allowing hetersexual clubs on school campuses as well, or will that be discrimination? Think long and hard before you answer this one. There are about 12 different ways I can respond to your answer.
equalityboy81 wrote:
Why do they get to have their club and not the gays?
See my previous statement.
equalityboy81 wrote:
That's un-American,
No, it isnt. Not even close. Making this statement is comparable to saying if someone doesnt like apple pie, they are un-patriotic. Its a statement used strictly for an emotional response. It doesnt work on thinkers, only on feelers.
equalityboy81 wrote:
un-Christian,
???? Really? What secularly edited bible are you using? Also, please support your statement.
equalityboy81 wrote:
unconstitutional,
No, again, not even close. Please show me anywhere in the constitution it states that homosexuals have any preference in anyway or that their choices in their sex life is a protected right. It isnt in there. I looked.
equalityboy81 wrote:
and plain unfair.
This is the only feasible defensive point you have out of your list. What you must remember is point of view. Who is it unfair to. The 3% of the school body, or the 97%.
equalityboy81

United States

#5 Feb 9, 2009
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, in turn, I dont think a persons sexual preferences and desires should be able to dictate what people can and cannot have. How is that?
<quoted text>
Not at all. That has nothing to do with it. Two entirely different entities. I dont even know how you can relate them to one another. Instead of apples & oranges, its more like apples and iron ore.
<quoted text>
Well, first of all, they dont get special rights. Secondly, if they did, religious practice and expression is a constitutionally protected right. Homosexuality isnt. As a matter of fact, heterosexuality isnt either. Are you going to be ok with allowing hetersexual clubs on school campuses as well, or will that be discrimination? Think long and hard before you answer this one. There are about 12 different ways I can respond to your answer.
<quoted text>
See my previous statement.
<quoted text>
No, it isnt. Not even close. Making this statement is comparable to saying if someone doesnt like apple pie, they are un-patriotic. Its a statement used strictly for an emotional response. It doesnt work on thinkers, only on feelers.
<quoted text>
???? Really? What secularly edited bible are you using? Also, please support your statement.
<quoted text>
No, again, not even close. Please show me anywhere in the constitution it states that homosexuals have any preference in anyway or that their choices in their sex life is a protected right. It isnt in there. I looked.
<quoted text>
This is the only feasible defensive point you have out of your list. What you must remember is point of view. Who is it unfair to. The 3% of the school body, or the 97%.
There's nothing I can do to change your mind about your bigotry and bias towards the sexual ORIENTATION of homosexuality. You do not intimidate me. Just because you have freedom of religion does not give one the right to dictate it upon others or enshrine their beliefs into law. Remember the word: Gay-Straight Alliance. Notice it mentions the word gay AND straight. Majority doesn't always rule, not when it comes to minority rights. If majority ruled back in the day we'd still have slavery and women would still be submissive to their husbands. You have a right to believe the way you want to but you do not have the legal right to take aways rights from a segment of society that you disagree. The ACLU will win this case just like they did in Okeechobee (Okeechobee County), Florida. Just because a minority is a smaller percentage than a majority does not mean it is morally right to not consider their feelings and discriminate against them. I think a true Christian should be better than that. God loves everyone. But so many hide behind the cross so they can have a license to be a prejudice bigot. The bible says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It also say judge and ye shall be judged. I guess you shouldn't have a right to heterosexuality under the constitution then. The Constitution says all men are created equal. I didn't choose to be gay. Did you choose to be straight? I'd really love to hear you answer on that.
equalityboy81

United States

#6 Feb 9, 2009
http://www.marriage4all.org/fulllist.php

Amendment 2 Donors of Nassau County, FL:

Aaron & Abigail Bean
Marjorie Crawford
Amelia Baptist Church
Barbara Douglas
Helen Elmer
Marguerite Froscher
Mary Higgs
Donald Kirkland
Eva M. Little
Norman Pardue
Thomas Reeve
Danny Schnell
D. Brett and Jeanette R. Whitaker
Venita D. Durham
Helen Elmer
Charles Flowers
Thomas Wilson
Brandy Branch Baptist Church
Paul Davis
Harry Smythe
equalityboy81

United States

#7 Feb 9, 2009
Christian are mean! I haven't met a nice, loving one yet.
equalityboy81

United States

#8 Feb 9, 2009
It's just blatant discrimination. Christians hate homosexuals no matter how much they are in self denial. Why don't they just come out and say it in those words? Christians and straight people think they are better than gays and think gays shouldn't have the same rights and less rights than they have. My religion says it's okay to be gay so I guess the constitution should protect that since that is my religious beliefs.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#9 Feb 10, 2009
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing I can do to change your mind about your bigotry
Thats because it isnt bigotry. You only use that word as an emotional stimulus because its a last ditch effort to gain some ground. It doesnt work.
equalityboy81

Niceville, FL

#10 Feb 10, 2009
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats because it isnt bigotry. You only use that word as an emotional stimulus because its a last ditch effort to gain some ground. It doesnt work.
Call it whatever you want to but it doesn't change the fact that you and people that think like you are narrow-minded and the same type of people who condoned sexism, racism, and segregation. You'll twist it all around anyhow to suit you. I'm sure members of the KKK came back with the same type of responses you gave me. You apparently do not like homosexuals, that's pretty obvious. I can imagine that you are over 50, overweight, Southern Baptist, Caucasian, Republican, raised in the south, and wealthy. Did I guess right?
equalityboy81

Niceville, FL

#11 Feb 10, 2009
You can't honestly expect me to believe that you love or have any compassion whatsoever for homosexuals. Christians pick and choose who they love and associate with. They don't love everyone. It's all a lie.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#12 Feb 11, 2009
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
Call it whatever you want to but it doesn't change the fact that you and people that think like you are narrow-minded and the same type of people who condoned sexism, racism, and segregation. You'll twist it all around anyhow to suit you. I'm sure members of the KKK came back with the same type of responses you gave me. You apparently do not like homosexuals, that's pretty obvious. I can imagine that you are over 50, overweight, Southern Baptist, Caucasian, Republican, raised in the south, and wealthy. Did I guess right?
Ah, the ever popular "KKK" reference. ROFL!!!!!!

"I can imagine that you are over 50, overweight, Southern Baptist, Caucasian, Republican, raised in the south, and wealthy. Did I guess right?"

Nope.

You got the SB and born in the south from my profile. Real intuitive.....:)

Not over 50, I am white, not republican and certainly not wealthy.

So, now that you realize you were very wrong in your assessment, do you wonder what else you are wrong about? Percentage wise, I would say a great deal.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#13 Feb 11, 2009
equalityboy81 wrote:
You can't honestly expect me to believe that you love or have any compassion whatsoever for homosexuals.
I do indeed expect that.
equalityboy81 wrote:
Christians pick and choose who they love and associate with.
Who they love, no. Who they associate with, yes. But its the same with every living person, not just Christians.
equalityboy81 wrote:
They don't love everyone.
No one does.
equalityboy81 wrote:
It's all a lie.
What you are saying, yes.

PS - I love my brother and he is homosexual. I just talked to him on the phone tonight for about 2 hours.
equalityboy81

Jacksonville, FL

#14 Feb 12, 2009
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I do indeed expect that.
<quoted text>
Who they love, no. Who they associate with, yes. But its the same with every living person, not just Christians.
<quoted text>
No one does.
<quoted text>
What you are saying, yes.
PS - I love my brother and he is homosexual. I just talked to him on the phone tonight for about 2 hours.
Love from Christians is always conditional and with strings attached. They judge people too much and tell them how to live their life. I'll live my life as I see fit thank you very much. I'm just as good as anyone else. So, do you think your brother is going to burn in hell since he is gay?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#15 Feb 12, 2009
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
Love from Christians is always conditional and with strings attached.
No, it isnt. Love is unconditional, real love that is. Expecting someone to act properly and in accordance with the will of God is not strings. They want that BECAUSE they love you, not the other way around.
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
They judge people too much and tell them how to live their life.
God judges us according to His will and tells us how to live our lives. Christians just pass the information along. Thats our job. Christ commanded us to do so. If someone hadnt done that with us, we wouldnt be Christians. Kind of like the whole "pass it foward" thing.
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll live my life as I see fit thank you very much.
Every person is responsible for their choices and actions, including Christians. Just be prepared to accept the responsiblility that comes with those choices. Thats all I am saying, because one day you will have to answer for them, just like everyone else.
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just as good as anyone else.
You very well may be a great person. Of that, I have no doubt; however, being good isnt enough. Good people will go to Hell. What is important is being forgiven. It makes no difference what you do in this world or how good it is if you reject Christ. If you do reject Christ, its all for nothing in the end. This rat race will be over soon for everyone. What will you do after that happens? Good people are still sinners. I am a good person, but I still sin.
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
So, do you think your brother is going to burn in hell since he is gay?
No, if he burns in Hell, its because he rejected Christ. As I told you, homosexuality is NOT a one way trip ticket to eternal damnation. Its simply a sin, as all other sins. There is only one unforgivable sin and homosexuality isnt it. I also believe that there can be CHristian homosexuals, but very few. Why? Because there are Christian drunks, drug addicts and those addicted to porn.

Whoever explained the sin of homosexuality to you did not, apparently, do a very good job.

If my bother goes to Hell, its because he isnt a CHristian. Not because he is a homosexual. Even he knows homosexuality is a sin. Its one of his personal struggles. We talk about it often.
equalityboy81

United States

#16 Feb 12, 2009
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it isnt. Love is unconditional, real love that is. Expecting someone to act properly and in accordance with the will of God is not strings. They want that BECAUSE they love you, not the other way around.
<quoted text>
God judges us according to His will and tells us how to live our lives. Christians just pass the information along. Thats our job. Christ commanded us to do so. If someone hadnt done that with us, we wouldnt be Christians. Kind of like the whole "pass it foward" thing.
<quoted text>
Every person is responsible for their choices and actions, including Christians. Just be prepared to accept the responsiblility that comes with those choices. Thats all I am saying, because one day you will have to answer for them, just like everyone else.
<quoted text>
You very well may be a great person. Of that, I have no doubt; however, being good isnt enough. Good people will go to Hell. What is important is being forgiven. It makes no difference what you do in this world or how good it is if you reject Christ. If you do reject Christ, its all for nothing in the end. This rat race will be over soon for everyone. What will you do after that happens? Good people are still sinners. I am a good person, but I still sin.
<quoted text>
No, if he burns in Hell, its because he rejected Christ. As I told you, homosexuality is NOT a one way trip ticket to eternal damnation. Its simply a sin, as all other sins. There is only one unforgivable sin and homosexuality isnt it. I also believe that there can be CHristian homosexuals, but very few. Why? Because there are Christian drunks, drug addicts and those addicted to porn.
Whoever explained the sin of homosexuality to you did not, apparently, do a very good job.
If my bother goes to Hell, its because he isnt a CHristian. Not because he is a homosexual. Even he knows homosexuality is a sin. Its one of his personal struggles. We talk about it often.
We all I can tell you is I've accepted Jesus as my saviour. Some people believe you can lose your salvation. I am not one of those people who believe that. To believe otherwise is calling God a liar.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#17 Feb 12, 2009
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it isnt. Love is unconditional, real love that is. Expecting someone to act properly and in accordance with the will of God is not strings. They want that BECAUSE they love you, not the other way around.
<quoted text>
God judges us according to His will and tells us how to live our lives. Christians just pass the information along. Thats our job. Christ commanded us to do so. If someone hadnt done that with us, we wouldnt be Christians. Kind of like the whole "pass it foward" thing.
<quoted text>
Every person is responsible for their choices and actions, including Christians. Just be prepared to accept the responsiblility that comes with those choices. Thats all I am saying, because one day you will have to answer for them, just like everyone else.
<quoted text>
You very well may be a great person. Of that, I have no doubt; however, being good isnt enough. Good people will go to Hell. What is important is being forgiven. It makes no difference what you do in this world or how good it is if you reject Christ. If you do reject Christ, its all for nothing in the end. This rat race will be over soon for everyone. What will you do after that happens? Good people are still sinners. I am a good person, but I still sin.
<quoted text>
No, if he burns in Hell, its because he rejected Christ. As I told you, homosexuality is NOT a one way trip ticket to eternal damnation. Its simply a sin, as all other sins. There is only one unforgivable sin and homosexuality isnt it. I also believe that there can be CHristian homosexuals, but very few. Why? Because there are Christian drunks, drug addicts and those addicted to porn.
Whoever explained the sin of homosexuality to you did not, apparently, do a very good job.
If my bother goes to Hell, its because he isnt a CHristian. Not because he is a homosexual. Even he knows homosexuality is a sin. Its one of his personal struggles. We talk about it often.
"Whoever explained the sin of homosexuality to you did not, apparently, do a very good job."

I meant did NOT do a very good job.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#18 Feb 12, 2009
equalityboy81 wrote:
<quoted text>
We all I can tell you is I've accepted Jesus as my saviour. Some people believe you can lose your salvation. I am not one of those people who believe that. To believe otherwise is calling God a liar.
On this, we agree completely! My bother makes the same statement of salvation and its not my place to say whether or not he has or hasnt. I look at the fruit he produces and can make an assumption based on that, but thats all.
equalityboy81

United States

#19 Feb 12, 2009
This is a reply to the doctor's opinion:

http://www.fbnewsleader.com/articles/2009/02/...
OldSchoolMethodi st

Tennyson, IN

#20 Feb 28, 2009
Gay clubs in schools are nothing more than a smokescreen devised by gay and lesbian teachers so they may shove homosexuality down the throats of everyday normal teenagers.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Southern Baptist Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News What would Jesus say about same-sex marriage? (Jul '15) May 17 dollarsbill 19,223
News Oklahoma Baptists weigh in on beleaguered semin... May 13 blackandwhiteagain 4
News Leader of Southern Baptists slams Trump-loving ... Apr '18 sbcnetweblink 2
Great Harm to USA!! =What the Democrats are doi... Apr '18 Gismys 1
If a protestant is saved through faith, Are you... (Sep '15) Mar '18 Paul 2
News Prominent Southern Bapist minister survives ous... (Oct '07) Mar '18 karma is one 82
News Just a Reminder that Flags Are at Half-Staff To... Mar '18 The Bible Student 2