Why do Southern Baptists dislike Cath...
Bible Believer

Charlotte, MI

#62 Jan 28, 2013
Wonderful CtB. I talked to a guy (18 yrs taught by Jesuit priest); He found salvation. He jumped into the Bible and was extremely knowledgeable in a short time and he did know Catholicism.

Baptist do not hate Catholic, the person. We hope they will see error and become saved.

The Catholic church began formally ~318. From 313 they went through different bands of priest and arguments deciding on what was their doctrine. The NT churches mentioned in scripture rejected them at the counsel of Nicaea in 321 AD.

The Catholic's bible is not from the Apostles or the majority text. It is from the minority text out of Egypt and Rome. There is no Jerusalem tie.
up on this rock

Albemarle, NC

#63 Mar 11, 2013
there is i first century writyen maybe around from 50 ad to 90 ad just years after christ died for us. it is a well described step by step way of the early christian church. it is called the Didache, or the teaching of the apostles. this was written when the apostles were still alive and this is their teaching. the description of the early church that christ established is clear. It was and is the same church it is today! IT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#64 Mar 12, 2013
The RCC's inception was 313 AD. Read John's epistles in a real Bible --- RCC is Antichrist.
Lillian

Niagara Falls, Canada

#65 Mar 13, 2013
I am Roman Catholic with many so called Christian friends that are very dear to me. Unfortunately they have been brain washed to believe these 'horrific' non truths about our Catholic faith.
First of all, they say we are going to hell because we idolize statues and pray to them Its not the "statue" we pray TO but ask Saints and the Virgin Mary to 'Interceed" in our prayers to God.(Once I was in hospital, fry baptist friend said she would pray for me, I quickly reminder her that prayer would be classified also and an intercession.
Secondly: they dont believe Mary is Holy and shouldnt be honored as they the mother of God. "She is a nobody just like us"....WRONG!!! Where would ALLLLL Christians be without the young virgin girl be with the acceptence of Mary? Also Baptist women wait with anticipation on mother;s day to be honored by their children yet the mother of ?God shouldnt be honored??? What about the commandment Honor they mother and Father. there is no quote anywhere in the bible that says except the mother of our Lord and Saviour,

It kills me to hear Baptist say that unless they they are BORN AGAIN,,,, they will go to hell like all catholics. There is only one Baptism in the Bible not two.

Baptists are finger pointers, bible memorizers and go aainst God';s will. We are to Love God and Love our neighbor,baptists judge people FOR GOD... they actually place judgment on others, ONLY GOD does that,/they memorize the bible but forget to respect and love other Christians along the way -they are too busy finger pointing,

Eucharist - We all agree God created everything and is everything,,,, except in the Eucharist?? God is present in the Eucharist and lives in each and every one of us.

I am soooo proud to be Roman Catholic, 2000 years worth of history and tradition (not some man made religion) Very proud that Roman Catholics never ridicule other Christian faiths. We have always been respectful. Many Baptists/Protestants will openly BASH CATHOLICS (other Christians) openly during their Sunday service,

Many protestants are all up in arms that government officals want a world religion..... keep up the bashing and they may just go ahead with it,

As Christians its important that we dont loose sight of the big picture, WE ALL LOVE JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR, Let us love him together and not love him seperetly Okay,,,, so we have differences,/we should accept those difference (not agree with them ) but kindly respect each other and when our time comes we as individual will need to account to our Lord as to WHY we prayed the way we did and let God decide our fate., Lets not judge for him
cantbelievemyear s

Columbia, SC

#66 Mar 17, 2013
fedupwiththemess. Catholics use the King James version of the bible, same as you self-indulgent so-called saved evangelicals do. The bible was written by man, EVERY copy. The passages that you currently profess from were voted on by the one church, which by the way became the Catholic church. So you condemn the catholics but you preach from the book they approved. How ridiculous you sound.
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#67 Mar 17, 2013
cantbelievemyears wrote:
fedupwiththemess. Catholics use the King James version of the bible, same as you self-indulgent so-called saved evangelicals do. The bible was written by man, EVERY copy. The passages that you currently profess from were voted on by the one church, which by the way became the Catholic church. So you condemn the catholics but you preach from the book they approved. How ridiculous you sound.
Catholics use the minority text from the Egyptian strain. It is not the same as the textus receptus.

You are completely uninformed. Catholics inception was 313ad. The are of the hidden god cult of the Saturn worshipers. Their symbol is the hexagram.
Angela

Stamford, CT

#68 Mar 21, 2013
A shocking event happened when a bunch of Baptist decided to run into a catholic church in the middle of a service and yell, "You are all going to hell!" I am very devastated and shocked. Jesus does not want one to judge. That day they were very judging which really breaks my heart. Jesus himself wanted us all to be Christ-like, I hope this doesn't happen in the future. I also went to a wedding to hear my baptist friends judging us Catholics. By the way, we HONOR saints because of their goodwill. I would NEVER worship a saint only honor.
Angela

Stamford, CT

#69 Mar 21, 2013
Lillian wrote:
I am Roman Catholic with many so called Christian friends that are very dear to me. Unfortunately they have been brain washed to believe these 'horrific' non truths about our Catholic faith.
First of all, they say we are going to hell because we idolize statues and pray to them Its not the "statue" we pray TO but ask Saints and the Virgin Mary to 'Interceed" in our prayers to God.(Once I was in hospital, fry baptist friend said she would pray for me, I quickly reminder her that prayer would be classified also and an intercession.
Secondly: they dont believe Mary is Holy and shouldnt be honored as they the mother of God. "She is a nobody just like us"....WRONG!!! Where would ALLLLL Christians be without the young virgin girl be with the acceptence of Mary? Also Baptist women wait with anticipation on mother;s day to be honored by their children yet the mother of ?God shouldnt be honored??? What about the commandment Honor they mother and Father. there is no quote anywhere in the bible that says except the mother of our Lord and Saviour,
It kills me to hear Baptist say that unless they they are BORN AGAIN,,,, they will go to hell like all catholics. There is only one Baptism in the Bible not two.
Baptists are finger pointers, bible memorizers and go aainst God';s will. We are to Love God and Love our neighbor,baptists judge people FOR GOD... they actually place judgment on others, ONLY GOD does that,/they memorize the bible but forget to respect and love other Christians along the way -they are too busy finger pointing,
Eucharist - We all agree God created everything and is everything,,,, except in the Eucharist?? God is present in the Eucharist and lives in each and every one of us.
I am soooo proud to be Roman Catholic, 2000 years worth of history and tradition (not some man made religion) Very proud that Roman Catholics never ridicule other Christian faiths. We have always been respectful. Many Baptists/Protestants will openly BASH CATHOLICS (other Christians) openly during their Sunday service,
Many protestants are all up in arms that government officals want a world religion..... keep up the bashing and they may just go ahead with it,
As Christians its important that we dont loose sight of the big picture, WE ALL LOVE JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR, Let us love him together and not love him seperetly Okay,,,, so we have differences,/we should accept those difference (not agree with them ) but kindly respect each other and when our time comes we as individual will need to account to our Lord as to WHY we prayed the way we did and let God decide our fate., Lets not judge for him
Yes I have noticed that too. It scares me to see what happens as friends get older.
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#70 Mar 22, 2013
But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Amos 5:26 (KJV)

When you look at the 'fish eater' hat with the hexagon; surely you have to realize it is the god Dagaon. For 3800 years the hexagram has been the Star of Lucifer. You see the pope w/cardinals following with the letters STUR on poles. What is it? From the verse above it is for their god; 666 or Lucifer. S=60, T=400, U=6, R=200 = 666. The numerical value of the Hexagram \ 666.

The god of this world has your eyes blinded. Ye worship ye know know not what!
darrel

Edmonton, Canada

#71 Mar 23, 2013
samson wrote:
I don't know that anyone hates the Catholic church in America. The RCC has a well documented history and it was not a good history,so that is why many stay away from Catholicism. The RCC had its inception around the time of Constantine and it was originally the church of God. However in a relatively short time it became a political system that was a church in name only. The history of the RCC is one of wars and killing of christians who would not bow down to it. Many christian have considered it the whore of Babylon. All one has to do is honestly study the New Testament and compare it to the history of the RCC. According to the evidence, the RCC has been a political system for most of its existence and sometimes a very corrupt system. So the RCC is not the church of God, but it did began as a church of God. In America the Catholic church is just another religion classified as christian and some of its members are probably christian(in my opinion).

You should read all christian writtings before Constantine and you will find the Catholic Chuch and its doctine,I callange anyone to read te early Chuch Fathers to see if this persons post is true. The Whore of Babalyon John refers to the city were my Lord was crusified which was Jerusalum which was killing Christians along with Pagen Rome (the beast/Babalyon). What not in the bible is this notion of the rapture ( the word is not in the bible). Not one protastant reformer or early Christian writer taught the consept of the rapture.In came form John Darby in the 1830's from England. As far as American history and world history the Catholic Church brougt you the first universities ,ophenages , hospitals ,fighting off Islam in Europe and former Christian countries in the middle east,....ect. There are so many more good things the bad that the Catholic Church has done and they 100% verifiable. You can also read historical fact that Protastentism was not so kind to Catholis either. As a Catholic I am taught to recognize you as a Christian under Gods Grace which I do . But I do love sharing trueth and facts which I am clled to do.
darrel

Edmonton, Canada

#72 Mar 23, 2013
Disciple of Jesus wrote:
The RCC's inception was 313 AD. Read John's epistles in a real Bible --- RCC is Antichrist.
Read every Christian writer before 313 and see if the Church was Baptist or Catholic in its doctrine. In 387 the Catholic Bishops decided which books were to make up the Bible and it was our monks and priests who hand written it until the printing pess was invented by a Catholic who also printed the first type bible.
darrel

Edmonton, Canada

#73 Mar 23, 2013
Raised Catholic wrote:
<quoted text>My family and my wife's family are both Catholic. My sister in law had a beef with our pastor and pulled her 4 children out of the church school. She has friends who belong to a local Baptist church and school, so she sent her kids there. Now, several years later, when one of my nephews was in 6th grade, he was listening to a conversation we all were having in the kitchen before dinner and he asked me "Aren't we supposed to hate Catholics?"
I did a "say what?" to him. I asked him "who told you this?"
He said it was the teachers at his school!
I used to work in sales, and on another occasion, during my sales pitch, I received a totally unsolicited question from my customer "Are you saved?" I thought to myself 'here we go now,'
and rolled my eyes. This man was from another Baptist church about 25 miles away and basically told me that if I wasn't a member of the Baptist church, I wasn't going to heaven! Arrogance to the nth degree!
I find it so hypocritical that other Christian denomination bash Catholics and the Catholic Church, when it states plainly in the Bible: Judge not, that you not be judged. Matthew 7:1
As a Catholic I am taught to respect you as fully Christian and uner Gods Grace.
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#74 Mar 23, 2013
But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27
Amos 5:26-27 (KJV)

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Rev 17:4-13 (KJV) RCC is Antichrist as they display the Star of Lucifer on absolutely everything, priest and pope; all their building and books.
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#75 Mar 23, 2013
John said Antichrist came out from the early church. Fairly easy to trace to Egypt and on to Rome.

I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. 15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. 1
Rev 2:13-16 (KJV)

That thing Jesus hates is found in the RCC; Opus Dei still holds the doctrine of the Nicolaitans.
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#76 Mar 23, 2013
RCC following pagan religion and its traditions.

Jesus' birth: Luke 2 = Jesus born in September. Roman tax day was Sept 2nd. Mary was great w/child and days were accomplished - Sept 9th was the Festival of Trumpets when you crown a king.

Acts 12:4.... Easter for Ishtar and Tammuz totally pagan

The Eucharist is a pagan ritual to crucify Jesus afresh. Your pagan robes are bloody as they are from your father Lucifer.
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#77 Mar 23, 2013
Babylonian doctrine under the Star of Lucifer was adopted by Jezebel and the Tribe of Dan. It is the same as the RCC today (REV 17 & 2Cor 6:15). Amos 5:26 and you find the Star of Lucifer; it was birth from Babylon. The sign of the cross (Tau) was for Tammuz and their priesthood was over laity and they called the priest father. Totally pagan in origin...... Do not follow DEC 25th or Easter which are both pagan from Babylon and follow their tradition. Follow Jesus.
darrel

Edmonton, Canada

#78 Mar 23, 2013
Rudy wrote:
Church history does show that protestants, then baptists or ana-baptists were severely persecuted by the Catholic Church.
I am a Southern Baptist pastor and believe what the Bible says concerning salvation or "becoming Christian". "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe(trust) in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved(reconciled to God).
The whole reason for the Protestant movement begun in earnest by Martin Luther Oct.31st 1517, was to bring purity and integrity back to the Catholic Church. His desire was not to leave the church but to reform it. He wanted the Church to forsake the authority of man and return to the authority of the Word because man, as Pope and priests , had turned their offices to pursuing their own glory and enrichment through the selling of salvation(called indulgences )to fill the papal coffers.
Anyway, in his search of the Scriptures to compare the practices of the church of his day to the church Jesus established, he found a key phrase that changed his life and freed him from the oppression of salvation of works(being good for God to gain His favor). Romans 1:17- "the righteous shall live by faith." Then we do good works out of a love of God and a love for people. Thus the point of James.
If we read the book of Romans and of Hebrews, we find that the need for a priest(a go-between for us and God) is no longer needed because Jesus' sacrifice on the cross was sufficient for all salvation. Through Him, we who are Christians have direct access to God the Father through Christ the Son.
Also in the area of the Eucharist, Jesus need not give His physical body and blood again and again as a sacrifice. Because His death on the cross was sufficient and complete.
The Bible, is the only authority for faith and practice of any Christian and NT Church as God spoke through the prophets, the NT writers and the Apostles of the early church and the Canon closed at their physical death.(There is so much more to this truth that I do not have room in this forum to address it adequately.)
Anyhow, The definition of a Christian is a person who has recognized and confessed their sinfulness before a Holy God, repented(turned away from) of their sin asking the forgiveness of God by acknowledging, trusting and claiming Jesus Christs' atonement(payment) and taking our place on the cross for the punishment of our sins. Then professing Him as the Lord (boss) of their lives from that point on in obeying the Word of God.
See Romans 3:23,5:8,6:23 and 10:9 and 10.
Now matter where you worship. If they faithfully teach the truth of Scripture and love Jesus with all they have, you are a Christian!
What Baptists object to concerning Roman Catholicism is that it traditionally has made the joining the church and the sacraments the conduits of grace which lead to salvation. Whereas the Grace of God accessed through faith in the sufficiency of Christ for forgiveness of sin is the only way to God and salvation. It is about relationship with Jesus Christ not a religion.
By the way, I love my Catholic in-laws!
In His Love
the bible qoutes overlooked are

" we are justified by works and not by faith alone"
"work out your salvation with fear and trembling"
"faith without works is dead"

basically the catholic church teaches that faith+works+grace work together.

the anabapist were also perscuted by fellow protastants.Catholics were also pericuted by protastants an vise versa

we do not teach christ dies over and over again. It is a rerepizentation of the one time scacrifice of christ.it is worth reading the early church fathers to see how the interpreted the bible and the eucharist.

there was no bible until the catholic bishops decided which of the books were inspiried in 382 ad

I CAN HONESTLY SAY I LOVE YOU TO PASTER
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#79 Mar 24, 2013
The Inquisition and murder defines Catholicism. They have never changed.

Catholicism is a man-made religion based on Baal worship 100%.

From the Star of Lucifer to the STUR the cardinals carry: both = 666.

They lie about the Bible; the Catholic bible is not the same as the Christian's Bible - they do not say the same thing.

The Papacy is Antichrist.
Kathleen

Asheville, NC

#80 Apr 2, 2013
fedupwiththemess wrote:
<quoted text>Yes they do. they worship mary and dead saints and statues of mary. oh yeah they do. They also worship rosary beads.
If you believe this you are so sick. I am Catholic and have never worshipped any "thing". Only God. Your so called uneducated pastors have you brainwashed no doubt. How do I know? I used to be one of you!
Kathleen

Asheville, NC

#81 Apr 2, 2013
Rudy wrote:
Church history does show that protestants, then baptists or ana-baptists were severely persecuted by the Catholic Church.
I am a Southern Baptist pastor and believe what the Bible says concerning salvation or "becoming Christian". "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe(trust) in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved(reconciled to God).
The whole reason for the Protestant movement begun in earnest by Martin Luther Oct.31st 1517, was to bring purity and integrity back to the Catholic Church. His desire was not to leave the church but to reform it. He wanted the Church to forsake the authority of man and return to the authority of the Word because man, as Pope and priests , had turned their offices to pursuing their own glory and enrichment through the selling of salvation(called indulgences )to fill the papal coffers.
Anyway, in his search of the Scriptures to compare the practices of the church of his day to the church Jesus established, he found a key phrase that changed his life and freed him from the oppression of salvation of works(being good for God to gain His favor). Romans 1:17- "the righteous shall live by faith." Then we do good works out of a love of God and a love for people. Thus the point of James.
If we read the book of Romans and of Hebrews, we find that the need for a priest(a go-between for us and God) is no longer needed because Jesus' sacrifice on the cross was sufficient for all salvation. Through Him, we who are Christians have direct access to God the Father through Christ the Son.
Also in the area of the Eucharist, Jesus need not give His physical body and blood again and again as a sacrifice. Because His death on the cross was sufficient and complete.
The Bible, is the only authority for faith and practice of any Christian and NT Church as God spoke through the prophets, the NT writers and the Apostles of the early church and the Canon closed at their physical death.(There is so much more to this truth that I do not have room in this forum to address it adequately.)
Anyhow, The definition of a Christian is a person who has recognized and confessed their sinfulness before a Holy God, repented(turned away from) of their sin asking the forgiveness of God by acknowledging, trusting and claiming Jesus Christs' atonement(payment) and taking our place on the cross for the punishment of our sins. Then professing Him as the Lord (boss) of their lives from that point on in obeying the Word of God.
See Romans 3:23,5:8,6:23 and 10:9 and 10.
Now matter where you worship. If they faithfully teach the truth of Scripture and love Jesus with all they have, you are a Christian!
What Baptists object to concerning Roman Catholicism is that it traditionally has made the joining the church and the sacraments the conduits of grace which lead to salvation. Whereas the Grace of God accessed through faith in the sufficiency of Christ for forgiveness of sin is the only way to God and salvation. It is about relationship with Jesus Christ not a religion.
By the way, I love my Catholic in-laws!
In His Love
Typical baptist. Quote quote quote. Everyone and their brother in baptistry are pastors with a 2 week education to get their diploma. I would rather have a knowledgeable priest anyday with years and years of education. The catholic church teaches on the same gospel readings world wide. Every church in the world is in sync. Hence it's called the Universal Church. It's a very devoted mass. I can go there and talk with Jesus. Your Baptist church? It's like going to a carnival. Loud music, hands waving and clapping. Pastor pounding an angry fist and yelling. How can you possibly talk or even hear Jesus there ?

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