What REALLY happens at DEATH
Posted in the Southern Baptist Forum
#1 Nov 10, 2012
When we die it is the END of our present bodies. It becomes dust and some bodies vaporized like in 9/11. So THIS SAME body will never again exist. What will "come up" from the graves? MANY never HAD a grave!
At death our breath and "spark" of life returns to God in heaven (good and bad people) So, in a sense we ALL go to heaven. Then at the 2nd coming a kind of re-incarnation takes place. New bodies are created for the saved.
At the end of the Millennium, the wicked are "raised" and ALSO receive new bodies, just to be destroyed again....to burn for eons of time...."for ever and ever"!
This does not make much sense to me. Do YOU understand any of it? Or should we believe the SantaClaus type idea of "Mama teaching angels how to sing"?
The world has become so confused. All churches and world religions believe "we are right". Is not the onus on God to send some heavenly messenger to come and tell us the truth? or must we continue the game of putting the puzzle together? Why will God nor Satan REVEAL themselves so we can SEE for once?
#2 Dec 21, 2012
I am Baptist; so, I will respond as such with all based on the King James Version (not a translation) which is a Holy Bible.
One must bear this in mind: the White Throne Judgement and the Judgement seat of Christ (two). And also know this; this is not a parable - There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Luke 16:19-26 (KJV)
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Heb 9:27-28 (KJV)
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Romans 14:10-11 (KJV)
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Cor 5:10 (KJV)
People die and go to their destination: Death and judgement but a Great White Throne Judgement for the lost. They shall see and know and regret in torment in the Lake of Fire forever. For the saved; to appear before Jesus and forever be with the Lord and then a final judegment when all are gathered and just prior to entering the New Heaven and New Earth.
For this is set in stone: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10 (KJV) read the entire chapter.
Forget the Brethren doctrine of the 7 yr trib and millenium which JN Darby brought to the USA. It is a created doctrine by the Jesuit priest. Francisco Ribera was a major proponent. But it came to USA by the Plymouth Brethren. It is not Baptist doctrine nor supported by scripture.
The man of sin will be revealed before rapture out of tribulation: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
2 Thess 2:3 (KJV) Rapture during tribulation and after the man of sin is revealed. He is now revealed. One man owns Israel and the hexagram is his family flag -- the star of Lucifer.
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