Protestants and Abortion

Jan 31, 2013 Full story: The American Spectator 43

Last week about 100,000 or more marched in the annual March for Life in Washington, D.C. This year they commemorated 40 years since the 1973 Supreme Court decision constitutionalizing abortion on demand.

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the real bible believe

Macungie, PA

#27 Feb 8, 2013
@ bible believer

Get behind me satan....I will pray for you
truth

Perth, Australia

#28 Feb 8, 2013
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#29 Feb 8, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Welcome!
I visited the Maximus site...yes interesting!
This is one is more informative, Morgana. The reason I got interested in it was due to either awarding or winning some type of recognition by the PLM.

http://www.answers.com/topic/maximus-inc
Bible Believer

United States

#30 Feb 9, 2013
the real bible believe wrote:
@ bible believer
Get behind me satan....I will pray for you
Another Catholic; idol worshiper. Implementing the Inquisition and now da poppa is bringing out his throne.

More of less I think he's like his pedophile brother.

The Catholic's bible is not of the line from the Apostles.
Ocean56

AOL

#31 Feb 9, 2013
the real bible believe wrote:
@ bible believer
Get behind me satan....I will pray for you
Does this nonsense have a POINT? Probably not, but I figured it can't hurt to ask.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#32 Feb 9, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Thank you, Morgana. That was interesting to read.
If you have time, google Maximus (helping gov't serve people). That's pretty interesting as well.
Thanks Katie! That is VERY interesting!! I would like to know the salary of Thomas Romeo....wouldn't you? Can't seem to find it!
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#34 Feb 9, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Thanks Katie! That is VERY interesting!! I would like to know the salary of Thomas Romeo....wouldn't you? Can't seem to find it!
funny, that, eh?

You're welcome. Look into Raymond Ruddy. He's the common thread here.

(censorship sucks)

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#37 Feb 10, 2013
Husker Fan wrote:
<quoted text>Ahem... The Apostles WERE CATHOLIC.
Ahem...Jewish.
Bible Believer

United States

#39 Feb 11, 2013
Catholicism was invented in 313 AD. You can follow them in reverse chronology; in reverse order you go back to Clement of Alexander and Titan who are labeled as Antichrist by the Apostle John.

NT churches were local churches and independent.

Peter was Bishop of Antioch. Never in Rome.

Catholicism = Inquisition and murder and torture. The Eucharist is a satanic ritual whereby they attempt to kill Jesus ritually.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#41 Feb 11, 2013
Well, I suppose it's too early in the day for popcorn, but I am enjoying my front row seat.
Bible Believer

United States

#43 Feb 11, 2013
Bitner wrote:
Well, I suppose it's too early in the day for popcorn, but I am enjoying my front row seat.
I'll furnish the butter. Mel Gibson's second movie; moron.

I wasn't aware Walt Disney's first was in the Vat i can. The Hill Vatican was used for the Temple of Lucifer since 520BC. It is under the symbol of the Star of Lucifer per Amos 5:26.

Murder is a way of life for the Cat A Holics. Their rituals are satanic and they perform the rites of wicca in the Vatican.

If they would read real books and history: all would know the fallacy of their man made religion by re-incorporating the Babylonian religion. REV 17 --- They are Mystery Babylon. Anyone that can read knows this. As I recall the pope had a monk to created papal lineage in 682AD
Dan

Omaha, NE

#44 Feb 11, 2013
Bible Believer wrote:
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I'll furnish the butter. Mel Gibson's second movie; moron.
I wasn't aware Walt Disney's first was in the Vat i can. The Hill Vatican was used for the Temple of Lucifer since 520BC. It is under the symbol of the Star of Lucifer per Amos 5:26.
Murder is a way of life for the Cat A Holics. Their rituals are satanic and they perform the rites of wicca in the Vatican.
If they would read real books and history: all would know the fallacy of their man made religion by re-incorporating the Babylonian religion. REV 17 --- They are Mystery Babylon. Anyone that can read knows this. As I recall the pope had a monk to created papal lineage in 682AD
Obviously, you're a protestant. Do you have a position on abortion, or do you spend the majority of your time handing tracts out at the airport?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#45 Feb 11, 2013
Bible Believer wrote:
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I'll furnish the butter. Mel Gibson's second movie; moron.
I wasn't aware Walt Disney's first was in the Vat i can. The Hill Vatican was used for the Temple of Lucifer since 520BC. It is under the symbol of the Star of Lucifer per Amos 5:26.
Murder is a way of life for the Cat A Holics. Their rituals are satanic and they perform the rites of wicca in the Vatican.
If they would read real books and history: all would know the fallacy of their man made religion by re-incorporating the Babylonian religion. REV 17 --- They are Mystery Babylon. Anyone that can read knows this. As I recall the pope had a monk to created papal lineage in 682AD
You misunderstand. I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just enjoying it.

By the way, you might want to watch those assumptions of yours. I'm in agreement with you about the Catholic religion.
Bible Believer

United States

#46 Feb 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Obviously, you're a protestant. Do you have a position on abortion, or do you spend the majority of your time handing tracts out at the airport?
I'm a Christian; neither Protestant nor Catholic. I'll follow scripture.

I'm a male: last time I checked, it turned out to be gas - like the hot air here.

Abortion can be murder.
Bible Believer

United States

#47 Feb 11, 2013
Bitner: I didn't realize your statement was serious. I was just having fun.

Catholicism's informal start was 313 AD; formally in 318 AD. New Testament churches rejected Catholicism in 321 AD formally.

Catholicism came from those leaving the early Church; see epistles of John --- Antichrist came out from among us. Their path went to Alexandra Egypt. And from Titan, Clement, Origen, to Eusebius and whamo the birth of the Catholics by re-inventing the Babylonian religion.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#48 Feb 11, 2013
Huskerlicious wrote:
<quoted text>They were followers of CHRIST, they were CATHOLIC. Saint Peter was the first Pope, look it up.
LMAO! And were the Apostles born and raised in a Catholic church that did not yet exist? No, they were Jewish.
Bible Believer

United States

#49 Feb 12, 2013
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Romans 2:26-29 (KJV)
Dan

Omaha, NE

#50 Feb 12, 2013
Bible Believer wrote:
Bitner: I didn't realize your statement was serious. I was just having fun.
Catholicism's informal start was 313 AD; formally in 318 AD. New Testament churches rejected Catholicism in 321 AD formally.
Catholicism came from those leaving the early Church; see epistles of John --- Antichrist came out from among us. Their path went to Alexandra Egypt. And from Titan, Clement, Origen, to Eusebius and whamo the birth of the Catholics by re-inventing the Babylonian religion.
The Church's start was with Christ's commission to the Apostles. The word "Catholic" and "Church" first appeared for the first time in the letter of St. Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans, written about the year 110.

The rest of your post is....well, speculative.
Montana Man

Kalispell, MT

#51 Jul 26, 2013
The word 'Babylon' means 'confusion,' as God brought confusion at the tower of Babel. This is likened to the confusing teachings of spiritual Babylon.

In Revelation, spiritual Babylon is pictured as the Mother (of Harlots) together with her daughters which descended from her. If it's true that the mother is the Catholic church, who then are the daughters? Which religious system can trace its roots back to the Catholic church? A clear contrast can be seen between the early church during the time of the Apostles, and the backslidden church (Catholic) which it later became. One can clearly see the transition of the early church from the pure virgin (in doctrine and total faithfulness to the Master) to the ruling queen (also likened in Revelation to Queen Jezebel). Having been liberated from her persecutors, she played the harlot with the Roman empire, and ascended to the throne of power and supreme authority. Her newly adopted heathen teachings are embraced as essential to salvation, even though they were not supported by scripture (Hebrew and Greek). I am not simply referring to the most obvious heresies (i.e., the mass, transubstantiation, indulgences, praying to saints, the papacy, the priesthood, etc.), but to those teachings that are universally accepted, yet and not recognized by her adherents as being self-contradictory. These teachings have relied on the twisting of scriptures to say what they do not mean, and which the original languages do not support. The 4 main doctrines that disagree with the Word of God are: 1. The Ransom, 2. The personage of God as distinct from His son, Jesus, 3. The immortal soul of man, 4. The future that awaits unrepentant, sinful man.

In short, the Bible teaches the oneness of God, and the submission of the Son to his God and father. It does not teach the trinity (a word which isn't even found in scripture), yet it is insisted that belief in the triune God is essential for salvation, that one cannot be a Christian if he does not believe in the Trinity. It also rejects the humanity of Jesus, and makes him out to be a God-man, a hybrid of human and God (which is impossible, since God is unchangeable). It would have us to believe that Jesus wasn't really tempted by the devil (since God cannot be tempted with evil), and that Jesus didn't really die (since God is immortal and cannot die). It would have us believe that Jesus was delivering a stage performance, wherein he was deceiving the world into thinking that he died, when in actuality, he was very much alive. It misses the fact that Jesus had to be 100% human (albeit perfect) in order to lay down his perfect life as the Ransom. A God-man is not a corresponding price for the ransom of mankind. The penalty placed upon mankind (through Adam) was death. God warned Adam: "the day you eat of it, you shall die." Physical death was the penalty God warned Adam about, nothing more, yet we are taught that the Bible teaches (through twisting of scriptures) an additional punishment awaits mankind after death, that shall never cease, called hell-fire. A logical man will readily see that since God never warned Adam about this horrendous everlasting punishment, if such a place truly awaits sinners, that God is awfully unjust, unwise and weak. The Bible does not teach that man was given an immortal soul. It says that man became a living soul (sentient being). The Ransom involves the perfect man Jesus offering up his life for the perfect man, Adam. This in turn delivers all his descendants from the death penalty, which they inherited from Adam. Both the 'justified'(Christians) and the 'unjust(ified)'(the rest of mankind) shall be resurrected. While Christians go to be with Christ in the first resurrection, mankind is resurrected later into the Millennial Kingdom. After a period of time, those still rebellious shall die for the 2nd time (second death), and never again exist. However, those who love righteousness shall receive eternal life on a paradise earth.
The Real Deal

Kearney, NE

#52 Oct 16, 2013
Bible Believer wrote:
I'm not sure where the Protestants stand from denomination to denomination. Many are Ecumenical.
Baptist are against abortion however.
Catholics say what's convenient. They are going with the money since they are being sued. Now they are saying life doesn't begin until after the child is birthed.
No, the Catholic Church does not "say what's convenient."

The Catholic Church is against abortion in all instances and that includes rape.

The only procedure in which "abortion" of a embryo is allowed is the implantation of an embryo in the fallopian tube - ectopic pregnancy.

See also the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the "Abortion" heading:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm

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