burn or bury the deceased person?

burn or bury the deceased person?

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cuezed

Ilford, UK

#1 Nov 18, 2012
hello. i would like to know why sikhs burn the deceased body and not bury?
Pathan Bhenchod

Nottingham, UK

#2 Nov 18, 2012
cuezed
Birmingham, UK

Good question why do us muslims bury our dead ?
Fateh

Brampton, Canada

#3 Nov 19, 2012
It doesn't make a difference whether you burn or bury. The body is useless once the soul has left it.
Sydney Hindoo Bhenchod

Europe

#4 Nov 19, 2012
Why do Muslims bury their dead bodies and Hindus cremate them?
Allah is able to recollect the scattered elements of a person’s body from any place of earth which is a tiny minuscule of His creation. It is quite easy for Him. The Qur’an declares:“And they say: When we are bones and fragments, shall we forsooth, be raised up as a new creation? Say: Be ye stones or iron or some created thing that is yet greater in your thoughts!

Then they will say: Who shall bring us back (to life)? Say He who created you the first time”(17;49-51)

There is a tradition of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) that a man willed his body to be burnt after his death and its ashes be scattered all over the land and sea. On the Day of Reckoning, he shall be asked the reason thereof? He replied that he feared God’s wrath, so he tried to avoid it being raised up from his grave for fear of Allah. Allah would ask him if he had witnessed that his constituents who recollected from wherever they were. He would be ashamed and be pardoned by the special mercy of Allah as he feared Him at the time of his death.

It is speculated by some, that the man perhaps belonged to the Indian sub-continent and his descendants started burning their dead after hearing his fate from the Prophet of their time. The speculation gains credence from the fact that the dead bodies of saints and children among Hindus are buried instead of being burnt. It probably means that those who are supposedly innocent are buried while the rest being sinners are burnt.

There may be another reason of Hindus burning their dead,“agni’ in Sanskrit means ‘fire’. According to Panini, the highest ancient Sanskrit authority on Philology, the word is derived from ‘Agrini’ which means ‘the first’ or ‘ the foremost’. Agrini was previously used for One God and later its derivative Agni replaced it. Now the same word, Agni in the Vedas is used for God as well as for fire according to the context. The dead had to be surrendered to one God agrini. With the passage of time, the word was changed to Agni which also means fire. So, the people from the land of Sanskrit started surrendering their dead to fire. It may be noted that mention of burial can even today be found in Vedas;

“Let me not yet O Varuna, enter into the house of clay (the grave); Have mercy, spare me, Mighty Lord.. O Bright and Powerful God, through lack of strength I erred and went astray, have mercy, spare me Mighty Lord.”(Rigveda 7:89:1,3)

“Have thyself, Earth not press thee downward heavily (after the burial); Afford him easy access gently tending him; Cover him as mother wraps her skirt over her child, O Earth.. I stay on the earth from thee, while over thee I place this piece of earth. May I be free from injury. Here let the fathers keep this pillars firm for thee, and there let Yama (The Lord of death) make thee an abiding place.”(Rigveda 10:18:11,13)

It may be mentioned that a large number of Hindus in South India bury their dead, instead of burning.

The Muslims bury their dead as the prophet (Pbuh) guided them and as all the earlier prophets sent to all nations including India would have guided their people. All the prophets preached Islam, the religion of nature although every prophet would have used the word in the language of his nation, instead of the Arabic word ‘Islam’. It may be that ‘Svadharma’(Nature’s religion) was used in place of Islam in India and ‘Sanatan Dharma’(The Eternal Religion) in place of its Arabic synonym ‘Deen-e-Qayyim’. The true Sanatan Dharma or Svadharma preached burial of the dead as it is according to nature. The burning of millions of men requires a huge quantity of firewood which creates ecological imbalance. The fumes add to pollution. The electrical pyres also are not the solution, as they consume energy, much needed by the living. Burial is echo friendly, pollution-free and energy saving.
Sydney Hindoo

Australia

#6 Nov 19, 2012
Sydney Hindoo Bhenchod wrote:
Why do Muslims bury their dead bodies and Hindus cremate them?
Allah is able to recollect the scattered elements of a person’s body from any place of earth which is a tiny minuscule of His creation. It is quite easy for Him. The Qur’an declares:“And they say: When we are bones and fragments, shall we forsooth, be raised up as a new creation? Say: Be ye stones or iron or some created thing that is yet greater in your thoughts!
Then they will say: Who shall bring us back (to life)? Say He who created you the first time”(17;49-51)
There is a tradition of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) that a man willed his body to be burnt after his death and its ashes be scattered all over the land and sea. On the Day of Reckoning, he shall be asked the reason thereof? He replied that he feared God’s wrath, so he tried to avoid it being raised up from his grave for fear of Allah. Allah would ask him if he had witnessed that his constituents who recollected from wherever they were. He would be ashamed and be pardoned by the special mercy of Allah as he feared Him at the time of his death.
It is speculated by some, that the man perhaps belonged to the Indian sub-continent and his descendants started burning their dead after hearing his fate from the Prophet of their time. The speculation gains credence from the fact that the dead bodies of saints and children among Hindus are buried instead of being burnt. It probably means that those who are supposedly innocent are buried while the rest being sinners are burnt.
There may be another reason of Hindus burning their dead,“agni’ in Sanskrit means ‘fire’. According to Panini, the highest ancient Sanskrit authority on Philology, the word is derived from ‘Agrini’ which means ‘the first’ or ‘ the foremost’. Agrini was previously used for One God and later its derivative Agni replaced it. Now the same word, Agni in the Vedas is used for God as well as for fire according to the context. The dead had to be surrendered to one God agrini. With the passage of time, the word was changed to Agni which also means fire. So, the people from the land of Sanskrit started surrendering their dead to fire. It may be noted that mention of burial can even today be found in Vedas;

It may be mentioned that a large number of Hindus in South India bury their dead, instead of burning.
The Muslims bury their dead as the prophet (Pbuh) guided them and as all the earlier prophets sent to all nations including India would have guided their people. All the prophets preached Islam, the religion of nature although every prophet would have used the word in the language of his nation, instead of the Arabic word ‘Islam’. It may be that ‘Svadharma’(Nature’s religion) was used in place of Islam in India and ‘Sanatan Dharma’(The Eternal Religion) in place of its Arabic synonym ‘Deen-e-Qayyim’. The true Sanatan Dharma or Svadharma preached burial of the dead as it is according to nature. The burning of millions of men requires a huge quantity of firewood which creates ecological imbalance. The fumes add to pollution. The electrical pyres also are not the solution, as they consume energy, much needed by the living. Burial is echo friendly, pollution-free and energy saving.
I heard that you eat your dead, so nature goes with nature and also benefits khalsa.
Sydney Hindoo Bhenchod

Europe

#7 Nov 20, 2012
Sydney Hindoo
Sydney, Australia

You hindu bhenchods do that. In Islam we have respect for our dead. Do you hindus eat cow shit.

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