History of the Great Gurjar Clan
Manjeet lohia

Delhi, India

#1238 Jun 11, 2011
GUjjar Da Bose or sab ki maa ki chut.....jisne GUJJAR k khilaf ek word bola
keshavsameerbain sla

New Delhi, India

#1239 Jun 18, 2011
please clarify why Rajputs says that...... they are bigger caste then us............means gurjars........please clarify........
keshavsameerbain sla

New Delhi, India

#1240 Jun 18, 2011
all readers ru interested in separate regiments in the Army..........please send ur comments to all for the same..........think & amplify the comments..........4 all readers..........bainsla/Gurja r bhai
keshavsameerbain sla

New Delhi, India

#1241 Jun 18, 2011
Sahibzada Masud Ahmed wrote:
Please add this historical name
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dear u r forget colonel kirori singh bainsla as new leader.........of gurjars.......
bainsla

Bangalore, India

#1242 Jun 19, 2011
well replied Harsana ji. They have forgotten their forefathers.They must realise that no clan or caste can come out of fire(agnikul theory).and they are the descendents of Gurjar Pratihars who ruled india during that time.And it is a well established fact written in most history books of aancient India and medieval india.
bainsla

Bangalore, India

#1243 Jun 19, 2011
Yes there should be a seperate regiment of Gurjars. We cannot fight under the name of Rajput regiment. The govt should recognise us and our bravery by making a gurjar regiment in indian army.
yaudheya

Gwalior, India

#1244 Jun 20, 2011
bainsla wrote:
well replied Harsana ji. They have forgotten their forefathers.They must realise that no clan or caste can come out of fire(agnikul theory).and they are the descendents of Gurjar Pratihars who ruled india during that time.And it is a well established fact written in most history books of aancient India and medieval india.
Then why any Parihar [ Pratihar ] King didn't call himself a Gurjar ? They always called themselves as the descenders of Lord Ram and Laxman who were the ancient Kshatriyas while Gurjars are the descenders of ' KHIJIR ' tribe who came in India with HUNS and these KHIJIR or Gujjar were famous for their brutality . Further they became succeed to establish a kingdom in Saurashtra under DADDA dynasty which was uprooted by Vatsraj Pratihar of Avanti and appointed the Bhatrvaddha Chauhan on the place of descenders of Dadda . From that time Gurjar lost their importance in Indian history and they were limited up to ' dairies and robberies ' even upto present time their behavior is same as ' criminal tribes ' and we have seen it during ' Gurjar reservation movement ' when they looted , raped MEENA's village and damaged Railway brutality which is national property .

So first learn to live and talk like civilized person then demand for a 'SEPARATE REGIMENT '.
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1245 Jun 20, 2011
DADDA were not a dynasty it was a title of great grandfather of gurjar pratihars and even today we are using same word to our grandfather. gurjar were not the descendents of khijrs. Because gurjar and khijirs have different surname. you said that they didn't call themselfs gurjar. The pratiharas belonged to the same clan that of Gurjaras was proved by the "Rajor inscription".From the phrase "Gurjara Pratiharanvayah" inscribed in the "Rajor inscription".It is known that the Pratiharas belonged to the Gurjara clan.The Rashtrakuta records and the Arabian chronicles also identify the Pariharas with Gurjaras. and i would like to inform you that hun is a gotra in gurjar and have many villages, gurjar were never came with huns but the huns were really gurjars and they got this title because of thier brutal nature. In hindi hun means "one who are like a beast".And torman and mihirgul were the huns king In India But they were not the huns ,whom from the Mongolia. Because Mongolian huns had different body structure and face. they looked like Chinese. And they were never conquered India. But yes it is true that they pushed the gurjars from their central asian kindoms as karonia, vokkana, chechen, chokur, kapisa, nagarhar, chaman. No historian can prove that gurjars came with huns in india.

And yes yaudheya i m waiting for your answer of my previous post about the book nauker rajput. And Other book is ANCIENT INDIA fifth edition written by mahajan vidyadhar. he wrote in his book that "The word "Rajput" is used in certain parts of Rajasthan to denote the illegitimate sons of a Kshatriya chief or Jagirdar."

you said gurjars a criminal tribe. Then you should know why gurjar were considered as a criminal tribes. This is a real story of kotwal dhan singh gurjar which started On 10th may, 1857 Dhan Singh Gurjar opened the gate of the jail and started the revolution. People took up weapons and marched to kill the British people. Important places of Meerut were captured. After completing the task at Meerut, the revolutionaries started to march towards Delhi with the slogans "Dilli Chalo".

And on 30 may 1857 another gurjar king of bhatner riyasat raja umrao singh bhati fought with Britishers on the hindon river and won three times. he lost forth time and died. A fort at Parlchhatgarh in Meerut District, also known as Qila Parikishatgarh, is ascribed to a Gurjar Raja Nain Singh. According to a legend, the fort was built by Parikshit and restored by Nain Singh in the eighteenth century. The fort was dismantled in 1857, to be used as a police station. And gurjar of sharanpur under the leadership of raja fatua looted Britishers many time these gurjar rebels defeated by Britishers with help of gurkhas. The gurjar of bullendsaher hanged on a mango tree. This mango tree is now call kala aam and katle aam chock. thats why gurjar were considered as a criminal tribe. Because Britishers tagged them as a criminal tribe. Now i want to ask you if one person want his country become free and he is fighting for it then he should tag as criminal.

Do you have any single rajput name who sacrificed his life in revolt of 1857. rajput was a traitor community and always seek a chance to show that they were really traitors. thats why pandit nahru had written in his book "discovry of India" that gurjar are the loyal caste of india. he didn't write about rajputs and jaats.

Do some research and then make a post with authentic proves. Because we can write something easily but can't justify what we have written.
yaudheya

Gwalior, India

#1246 Jun 22, 2011
gujjar dedha wrote:
DADDA were not a dynasty it was a title of great grandfather of gurjar pratihars and even today we are using same word to our grandfather. gurjar were not the descendents of khijrs. Because gurjar and khijirs have different surname. you said that they didn't call themselfs gurjar. The pratiharas belonged to the same clan that of Gurjaras was proved by the "Rajor inscription".From the phrase "Gurjara Pratiharanvayah" inscribed in the "Rajor inscription".It is known that the Pratiharas belonged to the Gurjara clan.The Rashtrakuta records and the Arabian chronicles also identify the Pariharas with Gurjaras. and i would like to inform you that hun is a gotra in gurjar and have many villages, gurjar were never came with huns but the huns were really gurjars and they got this title because of thier brutal nature. In hindi hun means "one who are like a beast".And torman and mihirgul were the huns king In India But they were not the huns ,whom from the Mongolia. Because Mongolian huns had different body structure and face. they looked like Chinese. And they were never conquered India. But yes it is true that they pushed the gurjars from their central asian kindoms as karonia, vokkana, chechen, chokur, kapisa, nagarhar, chaman. No historian can prove that gurjars came with huns in india....
You put a number of eggs in a single basket . But i will handle them one by one [ because i donot have so time ]

First you should read that Dadda 1 was the founder of Gurjar dynesty of Nandipuri so this dynesty became famous as ' Dadda dynesty '. Satisfied ? You have accepted already that Gurjar came in India from outside hence this point has become useless that gurjar belong to Khijir or donot . So first , stop your efforts to make any blood connections with Lord Ram and Laxman . Where the question of so called ' famous ' " Rajor inscription " is you should read it carefully because meaning of ' Gurjarpratiharanvaya ' is ' pratihar belong to gurjar desh ' which is same as ' Gurjar Brahmin '[ Brahmin of Gurjar desh ] or ' Gaud Brahmin [ Brahmin of Gaud desh ], Tailang Brahmin [ Brahmin of Tailangana ]. And if we accept that meaning for one minute as you determine then how it can be related with Pratihar of Kannauj because they or their courtier poet Rajshekhara never described Pratihar kings as Gurjar . The Gurjar Pratihars Kings always stated as the descenders of Lord Shriram and Laxman . These were the inscriptions of Rashtrakuts , a Kannada poet and Arabian traveler who used word ' Gurjar king ' for Pratihar because till that time Pratiharas had captured the ' GURJARATRA ' so naturally Pratihar kings were called as ' Gurjar king '.
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1247 Jun 25, 2011
so why they didn't say that they were rajputs they always used gurjar surname with thier name. dadda were not a dynasty it was just a name. And yes if dada were a dynasty then today all gurjars should use dada as thier surname instead of gurjar. lol do you know the boundaries of (akhand bharat) which covers today India, pakistan, afghanistan and some parts of central asia and i have not accepted that the gurjars came in India from outside. I have written that the gurjar in kushan era (kushane, kasana gurjars) ruled in central asia around the silk road. they lost thier kindoms because of actual huns(the Mongolians) and most of other tribes of central asia like saka and khijirs. they pushed these gurjars to todays northern India. Central asia which was called akhand bharat that time because of gurjar rulers. They went to central asia from India and they expanded their kindoms to the silk rout. Well this is a shocking post from you that the pratihars were rajputs but never used rajput word with thier name and always said that they were gurjar even the outsider travlers also stated them as gurjar like al-beruni written in his book "farishta" that in India their was a king who is called al jujar (gurjar raja). he wasn't written that their was king of rajput lol. and suleman who was a arab merchant writen in his book "SILSILAT-UL-TWARIKH that "MALIK-AL-JUJAR (gurjar raja) who has a big army. And he was a big enemy of arabs. he written kanuaj as "MAMLKAT-AL-JUJAR means capital of gurjardesh. Now we come to the topic of pratihars in 712 when arabs attacked on sindh then gurjar pratihar were ruling on awanti and bhinmal. you said that they were not gurjars then why the decendents of raja jaipal pratihar ( great grandson of samrat mihirbhoj, raja of kabul and defeated by gaznavi)claim they are gurjars mostly they resides in pakistan and in India. their title is khatana, dont confuse with khatana surname it is because raja jaipal ruled over kabul and that time kabul called khatan and rana of khatan is khatana. Now we should go to the topic of gurjar gaud brahmins so my brother if you ever read the history of gurjar gaud brahmins then you will find that there was a gurjar king whose name was raja karan gurjar and his ruling time is unknown. But some gurjar brahmins says that he ruled in treta yug. I would like to give the link of gurjargaud brahmin site, you can read why they are gurjar brahmins chapter closed.http://gurjargaudsamaj. com/.

Before 12th century their were no rajput caste in india. No rajput name in India. They got opportunity after fall of gurjar empire. Rajput the name of illegitimate children of gurjar kings. their are no authentic proofs that gurjar are connected to the khijirs and other tribes of outsider.

And yes yaudheya i m waiting for your answer of my previous post about the book nauker rajput. And Other book is ANCIENT INDIA fifth edition written by mahajan vidyadhar. he wrote in his book that "The word "Rajput" is used in certain parts of Rajasthan to denote the illegitimate sons of a Kshatriya chief or Jagirdar."

This is only trailer, And next time when you about to write something else, Please give some authentic proofs. I am waiting for your next post.
yaudheya

Gwalior, India

#1248 Jun 26, 2011
you are so furious that you forget historical facts .

A -- Nandipuri Dynasty -- It was a real Gurjar dynasty because Huen Sang or Yuvan Chwang clearly said that it was a Gurjar king . It became famous in history as Dadda dynasty also because Dadda 1 was it's founder . The name of other Kings of this dynasty are following --

1-- Dadda 'the first'[ approx 600 a.d.] 2-- or JayBhatt the first ' Veetraag ' 3-- Dadda the second ' Prashantrag ' 4-- Jay Bhatt the second 5-- Dadda the third ' Bahusahay '6 -- Ahirol 7-- JayBhatt the fourth [ approx 730 a.d.].
Jaybhatt the fourth was defeated by Pratihar NaagBhatt the first of Avanti [ Ujjain ] and this single Gurjar dynasty was uprooted and Bhatravaddh Chauhan was appointed as governor for this area .

B -- Gurjar Pratihar dynasty of Jodhpur or Mandaur --- 1-- Harish Chandra ' the PRATIHAR Brahmin '[ He was the ' Kulguru of Pratihar -- Ghatiyal inscription of Khankhu Devaliya ] 2-- Rajjil 3-- NarBhatt 4-- Naagbhatt 5-- Bhoj 6-- Yashovardhhan 7-- Chanduk 8-- Sheeluk 9-- Jhot 10-- Bhilladitya 11-- Kakka 12-- Bahuk 13-- Kakkuk 14-- Dhidhak 15-- SubhachhRaj [925 a.d.]

C -- Pratihar of Avanti ---

1-- Naag Bhatt the first [ 730 - 756 a.d.]
2-- Kakutsth
3-- Dev Raj
4-- Vats Raj [ 783 - 795 a.d.]
5-- Naag Bhatt the second
6-- Ram Bhadra
7-- Mihir Bhoj the first
8-- Mahendr Pal the first
9-- Bhoj the second
10- Mahipal the first
11- Mahendra Pal the second
12- Vijay Pal
13- Rajya Pal [ 990 a.d.-- 1019 a.d.]
14- Trilochan Pal [ 1019 a.d.-- 1027 a.d.]
Now tell me which was ' your so called Gurjar King '? where the question of inscription of Rashtrkut and title as ' JUJRA' for pratiharas of Ujjain and Pratiharas of Mandaur you should understand that these inscriptions and title was started from the time of 800 a.d. when Pratihar Kings had won the ' GURJARATRA ' hence they were called as Gurjar or Jujra but in their own inscriptions such as ' GWALIOR inscription ',' KALA inscription ',' BADAL inscription ',' Prathvi raj Vijay ' etc., there is not a single indication that Pratiharas belonged to Gurjars . About Rajauri inscription i have given detail explination in my preious post . Do you know Chand Bardai described two types of Pratihar --- one belonged to HARISHCHANDRA BRAHMIN PRATIHAR and second belonged to RAGHUVANSHI PARIHAR of Kannauj and no one of them were called as Gurjar .

Now come on the JayPal of Kabul . I read your post and show this ' GOOJAR GYAN ' to my students and they all enjoyed it .
I am not understanding , whom about are you talking . There was only one king of Kabul and his descenders who resisted Subuktgeen and Memud of Ghajani and it was Jay Pal ' Shaihya ' who was a Brahmin not a Gurjar . His father ' Kallar ' captured the throne of Kabul from ' Lagtorman ' a Hindu-Turk or Indo - Kushan ruler .
So first clear your History concept then talk .
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1249 Jun 26, 2011
hahaha lol i just laugh on you let just clear your "RANDPOOT GYAN". I dont know about your historical knowledge but I like your posting style as a school boy. Talk without proofs.

The Gujjar Pratihar is a gotra of Kushana Era. It is most likely a branch of Khatana branch of Gujjar Kushans.
Here are some records to tell the people who are spreading the wrong information that Pratihar dynasty was not a Gujjar dynasty.

1. The pharse “Gurjara-Pratiharanvayah,’’ that is “Pratihara clan of the Gurjara’’, occurred in the 4th line of Rajor (Alwar). The Alwar and Rajour were ruled by the fuedatories of Gujjar Pratihars of Kannauj and also from the same family. This inscription confirms that Pratihara Emperors were Gujjars

2. The Pratihar Emperors are reffered as Juzr or Jurz in many Arab and persian records which is the Arab or Persian form of the word Gujjara. The Arabs writers, like Abu Zaid and Al Masudi who alluded to their fights at many places with the Juzr or Gurjaras or Gujjars. Many Arab writes have also written that Gujjars are the highest caste in India and all the kings are selected from them. Also all the caste pay homage to them. The Brahmins are listed as second.

3. The Pratiharas belonged to the Gurjara stock is also confirmed by the may Rastrakuta records.

4. The Kanarese poet, Pampa, describes Emperor Mahipala ( Grandson of Samrat Mihir Bhoja Mahan and father of Hindu Shahi king Jaipal ) as “Ghurjararaja’’ in his works.

If anybody is looking for more information, he is probably not interested about the truth and he should be asked counter questions like if Pratihars were not Gujjars who were they?
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1250 Jun 26, 2011
Counter questions are asked by noted scholar John Key in his book : India- a History for the Gujjar history which was stolen by others. are as follows:-

At Page 195

Based in Western India at the opposite extremity of Arya-Varta, the Gurjara-Pratiharas have been awarded an Imperial sway greater even than Harsha's and a national resolve worthy of the Congress Party. "They were of the people and did not stand away from their hopes, aspirations and traditions. The y spearhead of the religio-cultural upsurge' the Gurjara-Pratihars were bulwark of defence against the vanguard of Islam, and protectors of Dharmal.

Page 196: How the Gujjar History was stolen:

Tod spent ten years amongst the still-independent rajputs as a political agent in the early nineteenth century. In the subsequent Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan, one of the most substantial and sonorous works of British Indian scholarship, he would claim to have established' the common origin of the tribe of Rajasthan and those of ancient Europe'. Invoking 'the Sycthic tribes' as the common link, this was simplay a variation, albeit less remote, of the Indo-Aryan hypothesis advanced by philogists like Jones. Tod also delved deeply into the Puranic pedigrees whereby the various rajput houses claimed descent from heroes of the epic and Vedas. And he valiantly tried to trace each clan to its original homeland. But he failed to explain the greatest mystery of all: why the rajputs, so prominent in Indian history throughout the second millennium AD, had figured in it not once during the first millennium. Where, in short, had the rajputs sprung from? The mystery is still unresolved. Even if rajput clans like the Pratiharas were really Gurjaras, they can still only be traced to C500; and there remains the problem of where the Gurjaras and rajputs sprang from.

Page 197 ( The Word Bhadana, a celebrated Gotra of Gujjars invariably found on various coins of Yodheyas).

Yuadheyas offered a stout resistance to Rudradaman of the Junagarh inscription, and whether earlier still they have migrated from somewhere outside India -- all such mysteries remain unexplanied.

What is certain is that Gurjara-Pratihars representd a social and political grouping very different from those of their Pala and rashtrakuta rivals for imperial patrimony of Kannauj. When they first emerged it was as the most successful amongst several related Gurjara royal families; their extensive conquests were often made and subsequently controlled by feudatories who were often relations; and when their empire disintegrated, it did so into powerful local kingdoms ruled by the families who claim a similar kastriya status and a similar-rajput provenance. This prevalence of loose, kin based relatioships suggests that tribe and clan were important to the Gurjara-Pratiharas. Nevertheless, the Gurjara-Pratihars observed the conventions and assumed the traditional epitets of paramouncy. Vatsraja, who from Ujjain appear to have ruled over Malwa and much of rajasthan in the 780s, had been the first to assume the titles of Maharajadhiraja and Parmeshwara.

At page 203 In the Panjab the Shahis jostled with the Gurjaras, Kasmiris and Sindhi rivals,sometimes as allies, sometimes as enemies; while in Afghanistan their fuedatories clung to considerable territories to the south and east of Kabul. These latter were the first to go, and in 870 Kabul itself was recaptured.
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1251 Jun 26, 2011
One more question from Col. Todd. that he has reffered Ferriasta very frequently in his fake historical stories , Why he went blind reading a very important information, a mother of all information, the origin of the great tribe which explains everything for having common surnames with other rulers.

The History of the Rise of Mohammedan Power in India, Volume 1, chpt. 8

The rajas, not satisfied with their married wives, had frequently children by their female slaves, who, although not legitimate successors to the throne, were styled Rajpoots, or the children of the rajas.

The Muslim invaders took full advantage of this realy bad and immoral practice popular among Hindoo kings, to find a good alley among Hindoos and to also satisfy their own lust and appointed these son of kings as their Governors. During Mughal period this community became so powerful that they started abusing their own people and motherland. Later Col. Todd. also exploited the situation to find a weak alley against strong Marathas.

Babarnama is concrete evidence that Udai Pur was ruled by Nagari gotra of Gujjars. Udai Singh Nagari was the last Gujjar ruler. Also it was not ruled by Seesodia rajputs earlier, the descendents of Rana Sanga who fled from battle to save his life is confirmed by Ain i Akbari.

I would like to mention here that in all the Indian version of translations of Babarnama the word Nagari which is Gujjar clan was removed probably to facilitate the stealing of Gujjars’ history to Seesodiya clan of Rajputs.

Refrerences:
1.The Memoirs of Babur, Volume 2.

Salâh ud dîn, Governor of Raisen and Sârangpûr, was in possession of a territory that could furnish 30,000 horsemen; Râwal Udai Singh Nâgari [/b[b]]had 12,000 horsemen; Hasan Khan Mewâti, Governor of Mewât, 12,000; Bahâdur Hemladuri, 4,000; Sattervi Kachji, 6,000; the Governor of Barmul, Parm-Deo, and Mirta, 4,000; Birsingh Deo Jehân, 4,000; Mahmûd Khan, son of ...

2. The Memoirs of Babur, Volume 2, chpt. 63

... ten infidels, who, unlike the ten blessed, unfolded the misery-freighted banners, which mark them out for futuretorment and wailing, possessed many dependants and armies, and wide-extended pergannas. As, for instance, Silâhed-dîn possessed thirty thousand horse; Râwal Ûdai Sing Nâgari, ten thousand horse; Medini Rai, ten thousand; Hassan Khan Mewâti, twelve thousand horse; Bârmal Îdari, four thousand horse; Narpat Hâda, seven thousand; Sattervi Kachi, six thousand; Dharm Deo,...

3. The Memoirs of Babur, Volume 2, chpt. 65

... their heads. Hassan Khan Mewâti was enrolled in the band of the dead by a matchlock shot, and in like manner many of these bewildered and misled rebels, the leaders of that army, were struck by arrows or musket-shot, and closed their lives; of the number, Râwal Udai Sing, before named, who was Prince (Wali) of the country of Udaipûr, and had twelve thousand horse; and Rai Chander¬bhân Chuhân, who had four thousand horse, and Mânikchand Chuhân, and Dilpat Rai, who were masters of four thou¬sand horse, and Gangû, and Karm ...

Also that Bagar region was not ruled by the Seesodiya rajputs before the invasion of Baber is confirmed by Ain I Akabri. Please see the following reference.

1.THE AIN I AKBARI BY ABUL FAZL 'ALLAMI (ri, Volume 2, chpt. 167 )

In the vicinity of Mórá and Mangréj is a state called
Pal through which runs the river Mahendri towards the Gujarát side. It has a separate ruler who resides at Dúngarpúr. On the Málwah side is Bánswálah (Bánswára) and that too has a separate chief. Each of them has a force of 5,000 horse and 10,000 foot, and both are of the Sesódiah clan. The rulers were of the Ráná's family, but for some time past it has been otherwise.
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1253 Jun 26, 2011
And one thing,please show these post to your so called students. Jis school me tu padhta hai uska principle mujhse tution leta hai jo likhna hai soch ke likh mera time barbaad mat kar. ye to sabit ho gaya ki tujhe kuch pata hai nahi bas apni khujli mitane aa jata hai. And for your kind information dedha gotra of gujjars in delhi celebrates "SAMRAT MIHIR BHOJ JAYANTI" every year. Because dedha is a branch of gurjar pratihar. tere rajput manate hai mihir bhoj jayanti, jara tarikh to bata de mujhe.
yaudheya

Gwalior, India

#1254 Jun 26, 2011
gujjar dedha wrote:
And one thing,please show these post to your so called students. Jis school me tu padhta hai uska principle mujhse tution leta hai jo likhna hai soch ke likh mera time barbaad mat kar. ye to sabit ho gaya ki tujhe kuch pata hai nahi bas apni khujli mitane aa jata hai. And for your kind information dedha gotra of gujjars in delhi celebrates "SAMRAT MIHIR BHOJ JAYANTI" every year. Because dedha is a branch of gurjar pratihar. tere rajput manate hai mihir bhoj jayanti, jara tarikh to bata de mujhe.
Mr. Principle , your such uncivilized attitude show that how type of school is , which has such principle . I presented basic inscriptions of imperial Pratiharas and you are presenting abuses ,Muhammadadan and Britisher historian's books and illogical logic .
Rajpooton ka itihas churane se behtar hai aaj itihas bana kar dikhao . Jaise Rajputon jitane PARAMVEER CHAKRA jeet kar dikhao phir Rajpooton ko gaali dena aur bahaduri ki deenge haankana .

Kher manate raho vahi jo manana chahte ho , Galib ne bhi khoob kaha hai , " DIL BEHLANO KO GAALIB YE KHAYAL ACHHA HAI " Ab samajh mai aaya ki hamare ilake me Goojaron ko ' JHARROOOO ' kyon kahate hai .
yaudheya

Gwalior, India

#1255 Jun 26, 2011
My facts was on the basic inscriptions not on the view of col. Tod who tried to state the Rajputs as the descenders of Shaka and Kushans which was not true .

And why did you not give some more GYAN on JAY PAAL of Kabul , Mr. Principle ?

Dialogue tak to filmon se churakar likhte ho , Itihas churate ho to achambha kya ?
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1256 Jun 27, 2011
I like your post school boy, I will try to refine your"****POOT GYAN". But promise me to show these post to your so called students. because they should know the fact of fake rajput history. Let go to rja jaipal of kabul.

I would like to inform you here that Kabul was part of Gujjar Empire from 899AD to 1002AD. It was lost to Arabs in 870AD by another Gujjar clan who claimed that they were direct descendents of Great Kaniska. The last ruler of this family was made prisoner by his Brahmin vazier probably by taking the advantage of arab attacks in 870AD. This incident alarmed the Gujjar Emperor of Kannauj, Mihir Bhoja the Great and as a result all the areas up to Waihind were included in his Empire.
For a short duration under the rule of Mahendrapal around AD 990, the Takshshila region of Gujjar Empire was lost to Shaknarvarman,( a ruler of a kalwar or karal tribe which makes and sell wine). Probably that time the Gujjar Emperor Mahendra Pal, successor and son of Great Bhoja was away to his eastern campaign as one his inscription is found from Dinajpur district at PratiharRaj Pur near Dhaka in present day Bangla Desa. Soon after his return Shankarvarman was killed in AD993 and all his descendents were finished in 899AD by the Gujjars of Kannauj and the Kabul was re-captured in AD 899AD.
In 960AD Jaipal, the son of Kshtipal ( Samrat Mahipal of Kannauj is mantioned by this name in many of his inscriptions and Khisti and Mahi both translate to universe and Pala means Palak, the protector.
Anandpal was son of Gujjar ruler Jaipal and Anandpal was son and successor of Jaipal. The Son of Jaipal Brahm Pal ( written as Brahmanpal in history) was killed and Trilochana Pal was sent from Kannuj to take the control of ongoing wars with Mahmud. Trilochana Pal was son of Rajyapal the ruler of Kannauj.

Dev Pal and Vijaypal, the rulers of Kannauj are also mentioned as son of Kshitipal and hence Jaipal the Gujjar rulers of Kabul and Wahind having its capital at Lahore was the real brother of the Vijaipal, the Gujjar Emperor of Kannauh and Grandfather father of Trilocanapala, who defeated Mahmud on more than one occassion.

In Indian history Jaipal is written as Brahmin and in Pakistan history he is written as Janjua and in actual he was Gujjar. Ferrista mentioned the name of his father as Ashatpal which is Khistipal of Sankrit.

In Indian history Lalliya, the Brahmin Vazier is shown as friend to Gujjar pratihar Empire but in fact he was and adversary.

Samant Deva the Gujjar fuedatory of Samrat Mihir Bhoja the great was the descendents of Laghurman ( also called Katorman).
I all the citaions needed for the above historical facts. His coins are similar to Gujjar coins found having Nandi bull on one side and horse rider warrior on the other side.

you said that you presented basic inscriptions of imperial Pratiharas and i am presenting abuses ,Muhammadadan and Britisher historian's books and illogical logic . so tell me my so called historian which inscription of gurjar pratihar stated that they were rajputs and not gurjars, and i also clear the meaning of rajour inscription Gurjara-Pratiharanvayah,’’ that is “Pratihara clan of the Gurjara’’,

Do you have any inscription that indicate the gurjar pratihars were rajput. tujhe ek silaleth to kiya ek chote pather par bhi rajput word nahi milega.
gujjar dedha

Delhi, India

#1257 Jun 27, 2011
AUR RAHI BAAT GURJARON KI BAHADURI KI TO 1857 KE GADDAR KI KAHANI PADH LIYO JO ME APNI PAHELI POST ME DE CHUKA HOON. YE KAHANI US WAQT KI HAI JAB TERE BAAP DADA APNI BAHU BETIYON KO ANGREJO KE GHAR DOLE ME BHEJTE THE. TAAKI UNKI JHUTI SHAAN BACHI RAHE. GURJAR TO JAANE HI APNI BHADURI KE LIYE JATE HAI. RAHI BAAT PARMVEER CHAKRA KI TO WO DESH KE LIYE JITA JATA HAI KISI JATI KE LIYE NAHI AUR HUM SABKO UNKA SAMMAN KARNA CHAHIYE JO DESH KE LIYE APNA BALIDAAN DETE HAI CHAHE WO RAJPUT HO YA GURJAR YA JAAT. AUR RAHI BAAT ITIHASH CHURANE KI TO TU HI YAHAN AAKE APNI KHUJLI MITA RAHA HAI. AUR YE SABIT KARNE ME LAGA HUA HAI KI GURJAR PRATIHAR RAJPUT THE GURJAR NAHI BINA KISI PROOF KE. CHOR TO TU HAI.
AND YES I USED RUDE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I CANT RESPECT MY ILLEGITIMATE SON.
yaudheya

Gwalior, India

#1258 Jun 27, 2011
gujjar dedha wrote:
I would like to inform you here that Kabul was part of Gujjar Empire from 899AD to 1002AD.
you said that you presented basic inscriptions of imperial Pratiharas and i am presenting abuses ,Muhammadadan and Britisher historian's books and illogical logic . so tell me my so called historian which inscription of gurjar pratihar stated that they were rajputs and not gurjars, and i also clear the meaning of rajour inscription Gurjara-Pratiharanvayah,’’ that is “Pratihara clan of the Gurjara’’,
If such type of history will read in our college , it will make good material for laughing so keep it op to goojar's schools .

Vese Mihir Bhoj aur Mahendrapal hamare poorvaj to hai par unki empire boundry Kabul tak faili thi , itana kahne mai to hamai bhi jhijhak hoti thi halanki Afghanistan us samay tak Hindu cuture ke antargat aata tha par ab to goojar na keval Parihar dynesty aur doosare Rajputs clanes jaise Tomar Chauhan Sikarwar aadi ko bhi goojar banane par tule hai balki unke empire ki boundries South India se Georgia tak phail rahi hai aur shayad kuch dino mai China , Russia , Germany France aur Britain se hote hue America tak phail Jayengi And then list of GOOJAR greatmens will be --- Lord Ram goojar , Lord Narsingh goojar , Lord Parashram goojar , Lord Buddh goojar , Chandr Gupt Maurya goojar , Ashok goojar , Kanishka goojar , Vikramaditya malav goojar , Yaudheya goojar , Samudra Gupta goojar , Chandra Gupta Vikramaditya goojar , Skandgupta goojar , Harshavardhana goojar , Maukhari goojar , Later Guptas goojar , Pratihar goojar , Chauhan goojar , Tomar goojar , Sikarwar goojar , Marana Pratap goojar , Shivaji goojar , Bundela goojar , Baaji rao goojar , Guru nanak goojar , Guru Govind Singh goojar , Banda Bahadur goojar , Bhagat Singh goojar , Chandrshekhar Ajad goojar , Sardar Patel goojar , Netaji Subhash goojar Indira goojar , Rajeev goojar , Manmohan Singh goojar , Hitler goojar , Stalin goojar , George w. Bush goojar , Obama goojar , goojar ...goojar ....goojar ...bas charo or goojar hi goojar . JHARRU pagalkhane mai aapka swagat hai .

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