History of the Great Gurjar Clan
kurmi kshatriya

Santa Clara, CA

#494 Aug 10, 2009
sardar patel was kurmi just like shiva ji,ye bich me saale gujar kahan se ghus rahen hai .
chowdhry gobar jaat

Kolkata, India

#496 Aug 14, 2009
kurmi kshatriya wrote:
sardar patel was kurmi just like shiva ji,ye bich me saale gujar kahan se ghus rahen hai .
jise dekho sab kshatriya ban ja raha hai.gujaro ne gand macha rakha hai.
punjabi gujar

Santa Clara, CA

#497 Aug 15, 2009
chowdhry gobar jaat wrote:
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jise dekho sab kshatriya ban ja raha hai.gujaro ne gand macha rakha hai.
shut up you idiot rustic badtameej jaat ki jhant gobar saale .pahle apana naam to dekh ,padhe likho ke beech me tujhe kisne bulaaya gobar jaat.jaat bhosadi ke tere ghar me only one aurat hoti hai usi ko sabhi bhaai baap chacha mil kar chdate hai roj ,sharm kar khet ke majdoor ja bail hank .
Vijay hooda

Lucknow, India

#498 Aug 18, 2009
punjabi gujar wrote:
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shut up you idiot rustic badtameej jaat ki jhant gobar saale .pahle apana naam to dekh ,padhe likho ke beech me tujhe kisne bulaaya gobar jaat.jaat bhosadi ke tere ghar me only one aurat hoti hai usi ko sabhi bhaai baap chacha mil kar chdate hai roj ,sharm kar khet ke majdoor ja bail hank .
Ye rajput Gujjar or jats mein ladai karwana chahta hai, par safal nahin hoga.

mughlon ke time mien jat bhi rajput ortein rakh lete the lekin shadi nahin karte the, unki baat ye kar raha hai.

jab rajput apni auratein mughal musalmon se share karte the to jatt to in auraton ko sirf apas mein hi share karte the.
king is singh

Jaipur, India

#499 Aug 19, 2009
Vijay hooda wrote:
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Ye rajput Gujjar or jats mein ladai karwana chahta hai, par safal nahin hoga.
mughlon ke time mien jat bhi rajput ortein rakh lete the lekin shadi nahin karte the, unki baat ye kar raha hai.
jab rajput apni auratein mughal musalmon se share karte the to jatt to in auraton ko sirf apas mein hi share karte the.
what is hooda ? is it a reserve caste? like chamar?
Khan

Pakistan

#501 Aug 21, 2009
Sounds great to hear,,,Gujjars in other areas? I thought they are only in the Northern Part of Pakistan.
GUJJAR GOOONG

Karachi, Pakistan

#503 Aug 23, 2009
baytay apnay baap ka pata nahe and dosron k baap ka btata hay, saala

kul apni behan ko lay jana.
Maratha warrior

New Delhi, India

#504 Aug 25, 2009
Persian Scholar IBN KHURDADBA in his book KITÁBU-L MASÁLIK WA-L MAMÁLIK OF writes about 9th. Century Gujjars and others castes living in the country:

There are seven classes of Hindus, viz., 1st, Juzaria (Gurjjara), among whom are men of high caste, and from among whom kings are chosen. The people of the other six classes do the men of this class homage, and them only. 2nd, Brahma ( Brahman), who totally abstain from wine and fermented liquors. 3rd, Kataría ( Kastriya), who drink not more than three cups of wine; the daughters of the class of Brahma are not given in marriage to the sons of this class, but the Brahmas take their daughters. 4th, Súdariá( Shudra), who are by profession husbandmen. The 5th, Baisurá, are artificers and domestics. The 6th, Sandália , who perform menial offices. 7th, Lahúd;* their women are fond of adorn­ing themselves, and the men are fond of amusements and games of skill.* In Hind there are forty-two religious sects;* part of them believe in a Creator and Prophet (the blessing of God be upon them!); part deny the mission of a Prophet, and part are atheists.
Maratha warrior

New Delhi, India

#505 Aug 25, 2009
Part of translation of the stone inscription of Dadda Gujjar who ruled over present day Gujarat in India in in the 3rd. Century:-

This inscription belonged to the Prasant Raga , the Great Great grand son of Dadda-I.
This inscription also confirm that Gurjjar is Royal race and not the people living in particular region. In Fact there are many regions spread in presenr day India, Pakistan, Afghainstan and bangla Desha whish which were part of the Gurjjar Empire in 6th. to 9th. century and are named after this Royal Race.

Om ! Salutation ! Filled with prosperity ! In that great ocean the royal race of Gurjjara ………………
……………… He announces to all Rajas, neighbouring proprietors, governors of provinces, the chief men of districts, heads of villages (Thakurs), and others:-
Be it known to you that we have granted, with the pouring out of water in the month of Karttika, for the increase of the merit and fame of ourself and our parents, and for the performance of the Bali, Charu, Vaiswadeva, Agnihotra, the Pancha-maha-yajnas (five great sacrifices), and other rites, the village of Sirisha-padraka, a lasha-grama included in the province of Akrureswara, with the water courses and all things standing thereon, including every variety of income, free of any rights to forced labour for cutting and hewing, and into which the entrance of cheats and outcasts is interdicted, to be enjoyed for all time as long as the sun, moon, sea, and earth shall endure by the sons, grandsons, and descendants of the following Brahmans who, following Brahmans who are having left the town of Jam- to dwell in the town of Jaicbusara,1 dwell in the village of Sirisha-padraka included in the district of Akrures- wara, viz., to Bhatti the Adhyapaka (teacher) and to Gop'aditya, Bhattijana, Visakha, Agnisarmma, and Drona, associate Brahmans and Brahmacharis of the Vatsa stock and Aswalayana school—and to Bhattidama and Vatra of the Kdsyapa stock. To Tapi - sarmma, Tapi-sarmma the second, Datta-swami, Bhagi-swami, Pitri-sarmma, Bhatti, and Drona, associate Brahmans and Brahmacharis of the Kanwa school (of the Yajur), and^of the stock of Dundaki, adhwaryyu of the Vajasaneya (portion of the Yajur). To Karkka the Adhyapaka, and to Abukaj both of the Dhu- mrayana stock — to Vata- sarmma, Saila, Ghosha, Mahadeva, and Bava, of the Kaundinya stock—to Dhara, Visakha, Nandi, and Ramila, of the Mathara stock, and to Dharmmadhara, of the Harita stock. To Indrasarmma, Adit- yaravi, Tapisura, Indrasura, Iswara, Dhara, Damadhara, and Iswara the second, associate Brahmans and Bralima- busara—to Adityaravi and to Tapisura, Indrasura Iswara, associate Brahmans and Brahmacharis of the Bharadwaja stock and Kanwa sect — to Bhatti the Adhyapaka, and to Vaha, Visakha, Agnisarmma, Bhattijana and Drona of the Vatsa stock—to Visakha Dhara, Nandi, and Rama, of the Mathara stock—to Tapi- sarmma, Tapisarmma the Second, Drona, Bhatti, Pitr- sarmma, Bhagiswami, and Drattaswami, of the Daun- daki stock—to Dhara, Dama-. dhara, and Iswara, of the Lakshmanya stock—to Bdva, Ghosha, and Saila, of the Kaundinya stock—to Bhatti- daini and Vatra, of the Kas- yapa stock — to Dharmmadhara, of the Harita stock— and to the Adhyapaka Karkka and to Abuka and Indrasura, of the Dhaumrayana stock. Bramhcharis of the Chhandogya Bharadwaja stock ami of the Kauthuma school (of the Sama-veda). Also to the following residents of Bherajji- kn who hare retired from Bharukachchha,1 viz., to Bha- dra, Vasusannma, Dronaswa- mi, Rudraditya, and Purna- swami, associate Brahmana and Brahmacharis of the Su- dharmmana-chaulisa stock, and of the Pippalada school (of the Atharva-veda.) To Brahmans of these four schools is the village granted with the especial object of promoting the study of the four Vedas.
To these thirty-four Brahmans (is the village granted).
This is the autograph of Prasanta-raga, son of Vita-raga, devoted to the worship of the Sun.
Bhardwaj
New Delhi, India
Maratha warrior

Lucknow, India

#506 Aug 26, 2009
The fact recorded by IBN KHURDADBA in his book KITÁBU-L MASÁLIK WA-L MAMÁLIK that Gurjjars were the highest class in India and all the kings are chosen from them and all others caste pay homage to them is also supported by the Nasal Index survey ( A course genetic analysis) done by the British Empire In India.

Here also the Gurjjars stands at the top. Here is the result of Nasal Index Survey.

No. Tribe Nasal Index Nasal Type
1. Gurjar 66.9 Leptorrhine
2. Sikh 68.8 Leptorrhine
3. Brahman (Bengal) 70.3 Sub-Leptorrhine
4. Kayasth (Bengal) 70.3 Sub-Leptorrhine
5. Rajput 71.6 Sub-Leptorrhine
6. Vellala 73.1 Sub-Platyrrhine
7. Brahman (Bihar) 73.2 Sub-Leptorrhine
8. Brahman (Bhojpur) 74.6 Sub-Leptorrhine
9. Tamil Brahman 76.7 Sub-Leptorrhine
10. Vaisya (Bania) 79.6 Sub-Leptorrhine
11. Pariah 80.0 Sub-Platyrrhine
12. Irula 80.9 Sub-Platyrrhine
13. Kol 82.2 Sub-Platyrrhine
14. Dom 83.0 Sub-Platyrrhine
15. Bhil 84.1 Sub-Platyrrhine
16. Chamar 86.0 Platyrrhine
17. Musahar 88.7 Platyrrhine
18. Santal 88.8 Platyrrhine
19. Kadia 89.8 Platyrrhine
20. Munda 89.9 Platyrrhine
21. Paniyans (Malabar) 95.1 Platyrrhine
22. Asur (Lohardaga) 95.9 Platyrrhine
Maratha Warrior

Delhi, India

#507 Sep 2, 2009
Gujjar and Jats are Pure Aryan races:

Many historians who distorted the history of India by giving wrong version that Gurjars ( and hence their ruling Clans like Pratihars, Parmars,Chauhans,Solankis,Chap s,Chandellas,TanwarsGuhilas etc.) were not a race but they were called Gurjars because they were from Gurjara Pradesh.

The Gurjjar inscription of the first quarter of 4th. century clearly in my post #505 clearly state the Gurjjara was a Royal race.

The same historians also argued about the Nasal index that Nasal Index can be altered and Gurjjars and Jats are of are not but Sythians. The anthropornetrical considerations supported by the Historical facts gives one solution only that they cannot but only be Aryans. This view is based chiefly on anthropornetrical considerations
and it is also supported by history. It is indeed strange that even after the publication of Sir H. Risley's views based on anthropometric
measurements taken at the Census of India in 1901 their origin should still be a matter of controversy. Those measurements clearly show
that the noses of Girjjars and jats are distinctly fine and that their heads
are long. It is sometimes argued by Sir H. Risley's opponents that noses might be made tine and heads may be lengthened by manupulation.
But thi3 argument cuts off the very ground from under the feet of the science of Authropometry. If noses could be made fine very few people in
India -would have had flat noses, for line noses are prized all over the country. It is because noses and heads cannot be manupulated and have an ineradicable tendensy to persist in difterent races, that antiiropometry has any value as a science. Wo will' therefore, detail the anthropometncal argument first and then see
whether history supports or contradicts the inferences derivable from it.
Indian

New Delhi, India

#508 Sep 3, 2009
Cant u understand guys how easy it is to make Indians fight among themselves. Any foreigner will pretend himself to be Rajput and start abusing Gujars. Who knows that person is actually a Rajput or Jaat ? Anybody can write any name and make us fight among ourselve. Why dont we understand this? These foreigners are making us fight among themselves, and we fools are fighting among ourselves. Thats why we were ruled for 700 years by Mughals and 200 years by Britishers and we want to repeat same mistake again and again. For GODS sake, please stop fighting and start respecting each other. UNITED INDIA STANDS AND DIVIDED INDIA HAS ALWAYS FALLEN. so please if u really love this motherland please stop fighting. We all are children of same Mother India and that means we are all equal.
Virendra Singh

San Jose, CA

#509 Sep 3, 2009
All,

I have provided several proof on Wikipedia that Patel was a kurmi and all Leva Patidar web sites very clearly mention that Leva Patidars are Kurmis.

Do you have any proof other than K. L. Munshi's book about Patel being Gurjar by caste.

Its wide accepted fact in UP, MP, Bihar, Maharsatra and Gujara that Patel was Kurmi by caste.
Virendra Singh

San Jose, CA

#510 Sep 3, 2009
Pl refer Maharastra OBC list. URL http://ncbc.nic.in/backward-classes/maharasht... . This show that Leva Patil and Leva Patidars are Kurmis not Gurjars.
amit tanwar

India

#511 Sep 9, 2009
kaun sala gurjaron k bare me galat bolega uski maa behen chod di jaegi
ur dad

Nottingham, UK

#512 Sep 13, 2009
rajputs were once slaves!
aryan chaudhary

Ahmedabad, India

#513 Sep 18, 2009
09719253085 bhosdike ye hai mera no. or address bhi likh liyo village-gaziwalla,sarsawa saharanpur,western uttar pradesh mother chod jaha bulana o bula lena
Rajput

Littlehampton, UK

#514 Sep 18, 2009
Gujjar say barh kar kanjoos meh ni dekha jindagi me. gujjar berchod bhookay kutaay salaay .shoodra..gujjar ki dosti me nuksan hi nuksan . jis nay gujjar ko dost banaya wo moo pay gira agar saanp or gujjar najar aa jaay to pehlay gujjar to maro gujjar ko lund kay neechay laga kar rakho.
Rajput

Littlehampton, UK

#515 Sep 18, 2009
punjab ka gujjar berchod doodh bechnay wala . tumhari gujri ki choot bajt hai meray ghar jab doodh daynay ati hai gujri sali. salaa teri jaat to soodra he.. berchod rajputo nay chod chod kay tum gujjro ko nikala he hamaray lund say ! gujjari to hoti hi randi. gujjar berchod barway hotay he apri gujjari ko 100 rupay kay liya bech dayta he. barwa berchod kami gujjar
ROHIT LOHIA

Delhi, India

#516 Sep 19, 2009
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