Muhammad's Tribe were Arab Hindus

Muhammad's Tribe were Arab Hindus

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roseo

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 Jun 4, 2008
Arabian donkey- why dont u kick ur daddys landmine-
better yet light the fuse u bomb head-
fix ur brains!
U know deep down inside u- u have hindu lineage-
the kabba in mecca was originally a temple of SHIVA-
why do u deny the truth?
Arabian Horse

UK

#4 Jun 4, 2008
enlighten me about this "hindu lineage". i'm all ears. i suppose as a sikh u would know about this coz afterall u lot r a plagerised version of hinduism.

tel me sumting was it the sikhs who gave the hindus the idea of reincarnation & diwali or was it vice-versa? is it the bible that priases hindu gods or is it the sikh holy book, the adi granth?

& wots the moral in this response? people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
roseo wrote:
Arabian donkey- why dont u kick ur daddys landmine-
better yet light the fuse u bomb head-
fix ur brains!
U know deep down inside u- u have hindu lineage-
the kabba in mecca was originally a temple of SHIVA-
why do u deny the truth?
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#5 Jun 4, 2008
The SGGS only gives examples of other religions so people can understand easier. Would you listen to something if a non-muslim would tell you that you are doing something wrong? NO! but you would listen when a muslim tells you that you are wrong. Arabian camel, i know you are the same guy as popeye etc and i ave given you answers.

Did you get the idea of hell and heaven from the bible?

Diwali is celebrated bye sikhs because of the release from prison of the sixth guru, Guru Hargobind Ji, and 52 other princes with him, from the Gwalior Fort in 1619.

Another important Sikh event associated with Diwali is the martyrdom in 1734 of the elderly Sikh scholar and strategist Bhai Mani Singh, the Granthi (priest) of Harmandir Sahib (Golden Temple). He had refused to pay a special tax on a religious meeting of the Khalsa on the Diwali day. This and other Sikh martyrdoms gave further momentum to the Khalsa struggle for freedom and eventually success in establishing the Khalsa rule north of Delhi

I gave you all the answers regarding reincarnation but I haven't received any answers from you regarding the points I raised regarding koran? The only answer you give is "you need to udnerstand arabic" and if somebody writes in punjabi you tell him "write in english" man everything can be translated and there is also an english version of koran. The only thing you do is making excuses because you know nothing and as other muslims dont know nothing about their religion only try be a "Wanna be imam". if you know that much then give answers and stop abusing religions as I don't abuse islam and mohammed. You and other muslims do. We give answers and you also can give answers and not make any excuses.
roseo

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#6 Jun 4, 2008
http://probedeep.blogspot.com/2008/01/was-kab...

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It provided a forum for theelite and the learned to discuss the social, religious, political,literary and other aspects of the Vedic culture then pervading Arabia.‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ asserts that the conclusion reached at thosediscussions were widely respected throughout Arabia. Mecca, therefore,followed the Varanasi tradition (of India) of providing a venue forimportant discussions among the learned while the masses congregatedthere for spiritual bliss. The principal shrines at both Varanasi inIndia and at Mecca in Arvasthan (Arabia) were Siva temples. Even tothis day ancient Mahadev (Siva) emblems can be seen. It is the Shankara(Siva) stone that Muslim pilgrims reverently touch and kiss in theKaaba.

Arabictradition has lost trace of the founding of the Kaaba temple. Thediscovery of the Vikramaditya inscription affords a clue. KingVikramaditya is known for his great devotion to Lord Mahadev (Siva). AtUjjain (India), the capital of Vikramaditya, exists the famous shrineof Mahankal, i.e., of Lord Shankara (Siva) associated withVikramaditya. Since according to the Vikramaditya inscription he spreadthe Vedic religion, who else but he could have founded the Kaaba templein Mecca?
roseo

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#7 Jun 4, 2008
Kaaba a Hindu Temple?

[Note: A recent archeological find in Kuwait unearthed a gold-plated
statue of the Hindu deity Ganesh. A Muslim resident of Kuwait requested
historical research material that can help explain the connection between Hindu civilisation and Arabia.]

Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?
By P.N. Oak (Historian)

Glancing through some research material recently, I was pleasantly surprised to come across a reference to a king Vikramaditya inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire.

The
text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a gold
dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on page
315 of a volume known as ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ treasured in the
Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey. Rendered in free
English the inscription says:

"Fortunate
are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram’s reign. He was
a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his
subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in
sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of
ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her
life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance.
The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new
moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is
the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose
benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us- foreigners as we were.
He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose
brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These
scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again
made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred
existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to
preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s
behest."

Now arabian donkey- bow down to ur indian heritage!
Arabian Horse

UK

#8 Jun 4, 2008
Man u r so predictable. One thing i've noticed about sikhs on this forum is that anything they purport 2 argue is normally lifted wholesale from an internet site. typically this saves the sikh from thinking. if it contains 1 or 2 words that fits in with his skewered outlook on life like 'kaba' & 'hinduism' in the same sentence, then the sikh decliams, we've got 1 on those muslims who keep scaring us with being tortued in hell along with our 10 gurus. Let other people see the internet site u used 4 ur 'research'2 argue ur case:
http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm

& 4 the more open-minded folks, u would have noticed by now that the title says: "was" not "is". In other words its all guess work 'ia tuhme al kalb'.

as 4 bowing? u know, & i don't have 2 tel u this, as a muslim it always insha'allah tala gone b to our lord almight Allah (swt). if ur not already doing it then i hopoe u don't die 2 regret it.
roseo wrote:
Kaaba a Hindu Temple?
[Note: A recent archeological find in Kuwait unearthed a gold-plated
statue of the Hindu deity Ganesh. A Muslim resident of Kuwait requested
historical research material that can help explain the connection between Hindu civilisation and Arabia.]
Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?
By P.N. Oak (Historian)
Glancing through some research material recently, I was pleasantly surprised to come across a reference to a king Vikramaditya inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire.
The
text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a gold
dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on page
315 of a volume known as ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ treasured in the
Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey. Rendered in free
English the inscription says:
"Fortunate
are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram’s reign. He was
a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his
subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in
sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of
ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her
life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance.
The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new
moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is
the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose
benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us- foreigners as we were.
He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose
brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These
scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again
made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred
existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to
preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s
behest."
Now arabian donkey- bow down to ur indian heritage!
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#9 Jun 4, 2008
Arabian Horse wrote:
Man u r so predictable. One thing i've noticed about sikhs on this forum is that anything they purport 2 argue is normally lifted wholesale from an internet site. typically this saves the sikh from thinking. if it contains 1 or 2 words that fits in with his skewered outlook on life like 'kaba' & 'hinduism' in the same sentence, then the sikh decliams, we've got 1 on those muslims who keep scaring us with being tortued in hell along with our 10 gurus. Let other people see the internet site u used 4 ur 'research'2 argue ur case:
http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm
& 4 the more open-minded folks, u would have noticed by now that the title says: "was" not "is". In other words its all guess work 'ia tuhme al kalb'.
as 4 bowing? u know, & i don't have 2 tel u this, as a muslim it always insha'allah tala gone b to our lord almight Allah (swt). if ur not already doing it then i hopoe u don't die 2 regret it.
<quoted text>
We sikhs were only 30 million or less at the time and muslims were around hundreds of millions but still we brought your empire to the knees. Sikhs killed millions of muslims despite being a minority we created our sikh empire under maharaja ranjeet singh. However, arabian camel this is not I'm proud of because killing people makes no sense. It happened at that time, soldiers were killed and their families were ruined.

I have still not received any answers from you regarding the contradiciton in koran and what mohammed did. I'm still waiting. Would you please explain these things. I hope you have enough courage and can speak about the truth.
Arabian Horse

UK

#10 Jun 4, 2008
Sikh rule began wen there was a power vacum& no real oppostion. no wonder the mice came out 2 play wen the cats had gone away.

By the time sikhs got a small taste of power (1841-1849), the mughlas of india were a spent force. The Dali Lama of the day could have carved a state out for himself in the punjab if he wanted 2.

Its amazing with this power vacum, the british began colonising in the east of the country whilst the sikhs grabbed their chances in the west of the subcontinent. However, whilst the british worked their way across the subcontitnet, sikh adveturism stalled. the sikhs ran out of inspiration & direction. thats y the sikh principlaity lasted for the best part of half a decade. then in 1849 the british defetated the sikhs decisevly.

then the sikhs were routed again 1n 1984, wen the indian army crushed them ruthlessly.

since 1984, sikhs relaised who r the 'rulers' of india & who r the 'ruled'. 2day in the grand scheme of things, sikhs r r irrelevant & unknown.

BTW, wot r these answers u r looking 4? wot r ur questions.
Sikh wrote:
<quoted text>
We sikhs were only 30 million or less at the time and muslims were around hundreds of millions but still we brought your empire to the knees. Sikhs killed millions of muslims despite being a minority we created our sikh empire under maharaja ranjeet singh. However, arabian camel this is not I'm proud of because killing people makes no sense. It happened at that time, soldiers were killed and their families were ruined.
I have still not received any answers from you regarding the contradiciton in koran and what mohammed did. I'm still waiting. Would you please explain these things. I hope you have enough courage and can speak about the truth.
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#11 Jun 4, 2008
HAHA! You muslims only could kill women, elderly people and children. You are famous for doing that.

Look what your own pakistan General said;

Maj. General M. Khan of Pakistan wrote in his book 'Crisis of Leadership' about the bravery of the Sikh soldiers during the Indo-Pak war.

Here are some excerpts from the book:

"the main reason of our defeat was Sikhs fighting facing us. We were helpless to do anything in front of them. Sikhs are very brave and they have a great craving for martyrdom. They fight so fiercely that they are capable of defeating an army many times bigger than theirs."

"Alas, a handful of Sikhs converted our great victory into a big defeat and shattered our confidence and courage.."

"The same thing happened with us in Dhaka(Bangladesh). In the battle of Jaissur, the Singhs opposed the Pakistani army so fiercely that our backbone and our foothold was lost. This became the main and important reason of our defeat and the Sikhs' fancy for martyrdom and mockery with death for the sake of safety and honour of the country, became the sole cause of their victory."

When banda singh bahadur kept fighting with 100.000 of moghuls and they were only only 700 sikhs holding back that many moghuls for 7 months. When muslims captured him they felt ashamed confronting the moghul emperor and one moghul said "how will we face the emperor by saying that 100.000 moghuls were being fought by only 700 sikhs.(if you want proof for that let me know)

everybody knows that muslims have absolutly no chance thats why you have lost the wars in 1965, 1971 and we also took away your east pakistan.
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#12 Jun 4, 2008
arabian camel, dont feel ashamed of that but it's the truth. You only attack if you are 100 against 1 otherwise you look out for women or children to kill and feel proud in doing that.

You are a true stinki camel(paki).
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#13 Jun 4, 2008
Sikh empire was from 1716-1849 when you were already slaves of british we were free for another 100 years.
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#14 Jun 4, 2008
What will be the food for the people in Hell?
The Qur'an makes the following statements regarding the food that unbelievers will have in hell:

No food will there be for them but a bitter Dhari S. 88:6 Y. Ali

Nor hath he any food except the foul pus from the washing of wounds, S. 69:36 Y. Ali

In a footnote, Yusuf Ali gives the following explanation for Dhari:

It is a plant, bitter and thorny, loathsome in smell and appearance, which will neither give fattening nourishment to the body nor in any way satisfy the burning pangs of hunger....

Other translators render the term as "bitter thorn-fruit" (Pickthall) "dry, bitter and thorny herbage" (Sher Ali), "cactus thorn" (Arberry), "the foul thorn" (Palmer).

Obviously, both kinds of ‘food’ are chosen to evoke a feeling of horror when thinking about Hell. However, the contradiction is in the double claim that this or that will be the only food, i.e.

No food except Dhari (88:6).
No food except foul pus (69:36).
There is yet another passage that is relevant to this discussion:

Is that the better entertainment or the Tree of Zaqqum?
For We have truly made it (as) a trial for the wrong-doers.
For it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-Fire:
The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils:
Truly they will eat thereof and fill their bellies therewith.
Then on top of that they will be given a mixture made of boiling water.
Then shall their return be to the (Blazing) Fire. S. 37:62-68 Y. Ali; cf. 56:52

Thus, regarding this one topic alone, the Qur'an contains three contradictions:

"Eating of the tree of Zaqqum" (37:66) contradicts "eating only Dhari" (88:6).
"Eating of the tree of Zaqqum" (37:66) contradicts "eating only foul pus" (69:36).
"Eating only Dhari" (88:6) contradicts "eating only foul pus" (69:36).
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#15 Jun 4, 2008
Koran:

23:14 blessed Allah the best of all creators. How many creators exist? Don't muslims say there is one allah? how comes the quran mentions more?

17:1 Mohammad visited Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa. The problem is that there was no Masjid Al-Aqsa nor any other masjid during the life of Mohammad since Islam entered Palestine after Omar Bin El Khattab conquered Palestine after the death of the prophet. Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa was built almost sixty years after the death of Mohammad by Marwan bin Abdelmalik.

ANSWERS OR EXPLANATION PLEASE! THIS TIME YOU GIVE NO ANSWERS I KNOW THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND EXCUSES AND YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT ISLAM IS NOT WITHOUT CONTRADICTIONS AND MISTAKES
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#16 Jun 4, 2008
Why did mohammed married a 6 year old child and slep with ther at the age of 9?

Why did mohammed married his adopted sons wife and made adopttion haram?

Mohammed said If I'm wrong then only will I be hurt but what about the 1.1 billion people who follow mohammed?
Arabian Horse

UK

#17 Jun 4, 2008
the sikh tradition of brown-tounging continues well n true till this day.

after the british beat u in2 submission in 1849, u then became their lap dogs. u couldn't do e-nuf 2 plz ur new found masters. the british used n abised sikhs for their own end knowing fully well how ignorant the sikh specimen was.

a bit canny, but if the same numbers from the year 1849 a re-arranged u get 1984. coincidence or wot? this time around the hindus came in2 ur home i.e. amritsar, & taught u a lesson that probably upset the reincarnation cycles of ur 10 gurus. wow wot a beating. & the sikhs, the pussys that u lot r, did nothing, absolutely nothing. it was the 1980s & instead u lot got busy with making bagra music n dnacing n boozing 2 4get the beating ur hindu masters inflicted on u.

& losing the 1971 war was inevitable coz of the impossible supply & demand logistics involved at the time.
Sikh wrote:
HAHA! You muslims only could kill women, elderly people and children. You are famous for doing that.
Look what your own pakistan General said;
Maj. General M. Khan of Pakistan wrote in his book 'Crisis of Leadership' about the bravery of the Sikh soldiers during the Indo-Pak war.
Here are some excerpts from the book:
"the main reason of our defeat was Sikhs fighting facing us. We were helpless to do anything in front of them. Sikhs are very brave and they have a great craving for martyrdom. They fight so fiercely that they are capable of defeating an army many times bigger than theirs."
"Alas, a handful of Sikhs converted our great victory into a big defeat and shattered our confidence and courage.."
"The same thing happened with us in Dhaka(Bangladesh). In the battle of Jaissur, the Singhs opposed the Pakistani army so fiercely that our backbone and our foothold was lost. This became the main and important reason of our defeat and the Sikhs' fancy for martyrdom and mockery with death for the sake of safety and honour of the country, became the sole cause of their victory."
When banda singh bahadur kept fighting with 100.000 of moghuls and they were only only 700 sikhs holding back that many moghuls for 7 months. When muslims captured him they felt ashamed confronting the moghul emperor and one moghul said "how will we face the emperor by saying that 100.000 moghuls were being fought by only 700 sikhs.(if you want proof for that let me know)
everybody knows that muslims have absolutly no chance thats why you have lost the wars in 1965, 1971 and we also took away your east pakistan.
Arabian Horse

UK

#18 Jun 4, 2008
blatant lie. 1716 is the date commonly given wen sikhs began to establish independent states. it was i repeat, not until 1801, wen a homogeneous sikh state was established for the first time.

but if living a lie makes u happy, as a sikh u probably know this only 2 well, i grant u the date of 1716-1849.
Sikh wrote:
Sikh empire was from 1716-1849 when you were already slaves of british we were free for another 100 years.
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#19 Jun 4, 2008
Arabian Horse wrote:
the sikh tradition of brown-tounging continues well n true till this day.
after the british beat u in2 submission in 1849, u then became their lap dogs. u couldn't do e-nuf 2 plz ur new found masters. the british used n abised sikhs for their own end knowing fully well how ignorant the sikh specimen was.
a bit canny, but if the same numbers from the year 1849 a re-arranged u get 1984. coincidence or wot? this time around the hindus came in2 ur home i.e. amritsar, & taught u a lesson that probably upset the reincarnation cycles of ur 10 gurus. wow wot a beating. & the sikhs, the pussys that u lot r, did nothing, absolutely nothing. it was the 1980s & instead u lot got busy with making bagra music n dnacing n boozing 2 4get the beating ur hindu masters inflicted on u.
& losing the 1971 war was inevitable coz of the impossible supply & demand logistics involved at the time.
<quoted text>
Why you get angry? the 1984 attack happened and still the indian army of 2500 army officers took around 3 days only to defeat 250 sikhs(you want proof let me know). What happened in gujarat? hindus killed 10.000 of muslims and that wasnt even a army only mobs with swords and muslims couldnt do anything.

Even today look at kashmir how the indian army f*cks them up. nearly 100.000 muslims in kashmir have been killed and still you can't defend yourself. The oly time the moghul empire got the power because muslims where 100 times more than hindus. you attacked their villages raped gilrs and killed children(I know islam tradition). as soon as the sikhs came and went against you, you ran of to marry your sister and settle down somewhere in afghanistan. Look today! afghanistan, iraq and soon iran Muslims get killed like rats!
Sikh

Liverpool, UK

#20 Jun 4, 2008
Look at that you islamic smelling camel!

1984 happened once and it was soon over but killings of muslims in kashmir started in 1989 and is still on going and nearly 100.000 have been killed and the number are growing. Hopefully one day you people will be wiped out and there would be no more islamic shit in the world. It's happening slowly. Just watch that video!

http://video.google.com/videoplay...
Dj Rising Pole

Pune, India

#21 Jun 10, 2008
arabian horse is actually stupid paki donkey !!!
Cooldude

Chicago, IL

#22 Jul 2, 2008
Arabian Horse wrote:
blatant lie. 1716 is the date commonly given wen sikhs began to establish independent states. it was i repeat, not until 1801, wen a homogeneous sikh state was established for the first time.
but if living a lie makes u happy, as a sikh u probably know this only 2 well, i grant u the date of 1716-1849.
<quoted text>
Mr. Arabian Horse
You name itslef indicates about Sanskrit name of "Aravashtan" means Arava= Horse and sthan= place
So, Arabia itself is derived from Aravasthan..
Arav becomes Arab
It is well nown in our history that Aravasthan was known for the horses

Jats of India lived there and muhammed's wife Ayesha was treated by one of the Jats physician when she was ill.. did you know this?????
King Vikramaditya constructed a pillar in memory of victory over Arabia-- now the Qutb minar in New Delhi

The Pehlavi dynasty of Iran is the lineage of Pahlava ruler of India, who were the ancestors of Pehlavi
Kurdistan is a lineage of the Kuru trible that lived in northwestern india
Vikramaditya's inscription is found on the wall of Kaaba....
Mecca has a Vishnu padam (lotus feet- print)
Said in our of our verses..I can quote you that..

The symbol of crescent moon symbolizes shiva and zam zam water symbolizes Ganga
Wherever there is Shiva, there is Ganga..
The clothes you wear at mecca- white clotes around shoulder .... it is practiced in Indian temples where we are required to wear white sheets of clothes around shoulders ....it is a hindu pracitce... this proves that kaba is a hindu temple
The stone of the kaaba is the stone same as that of shiva lingam........

...Muhammed copied a lot from christ, jews, hindus and zororastrians and made the faith

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