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On 13th April 1978, the Nirankari convention took place in Amritsar. A fanatical agricultural inspector named Fauja Singh, affiliated with the Akhand Kirtani Jatha and Bhindrawala marched through the streets of Amritsar to confront the Sant Nirankaris. They saw it their duty to stop what was in their eyes anti-Sikh preaching, however, along the way Bhindrawala and a few of his close associates slipped away. For this act, Bibi Amarjit Kaur, Fauja Singh’s wife and head of Babbar Khalsa called Bhindrawala a coward.
That day, 12 Sikhs including Fauja Singh and 3 Sant Nirankaris died in the ensuing clash. The 12 Sikhs were immediately declared as martyrs by Akhand Kirtani Jatha (A.K.J.), and Samparda Kartar Singh Sikhs (known popularly as ‘Dam Dami Taksal’). This situation presented Sanjay Gandhi and Jail Singh with a potential political disaster. The Congress Party began to whip up anti-Sant Nirankari sentiments amongst the Sikhs via their Congress-controlled Sikh temples in Delhi. Not wishing to alienate their coalition partners, the S.G.P.C. Akalis tried to play down the Sant Nirankari incident in Punjab. The Congress-held Gurdwaras in Delhi promoted Bhindrawala as a hero of the Sant Nirankari incident. Meanwhile the Sant Nirankaris had their court case moved from Punjab to the neighboring state of Haryana because they felt that in Punjab they would not get a fair hearing. The Akali Dal allowed the Sant Nirankaris to move their case to avoid breaking up the coalition government. The Haryana court acquitted the Sant Nirankaris.
"Quite predictably, the voice of truth first raised by Baba Buta Singh Ji and Avtar Singh Ji and now spread by Baba Gurbachan Singh was opposed by the orthodox. The rapid progress of the Mission under the divine leadership of Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji, in fact, upset these elements to the level of desperation. Baba Ji called upon them to first understand the Mission and then point out if there was anything wrong. But all his gestures fell flat on them. Nirankari congregations were disturbed at many places. Violent attacks were also reported from several centres. The worst in the chain was the attack on the Baisakhi Smagam in Amritsar on April 13th, 1978. Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji was scheduled to address the Samagam. But before he arrived, about 200 fanatics attacked the congregation. The police opened fire. Eighteen precious lives were lost. The incident was followed by a court case. Several Nirankari saints remained in judicial custody for more than two years before they were acquitted honourably. The case was declared to be false and fabricated.
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The court passed severe strictures against then government for filling a totally false case against innocent Nirankaris. The court held fanatics responsible for the brutal attack on the peaceful Nirankari congregation. While the case was on, Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji did not sit back due to the turmoil. He declared that such opposition Truth had always to face and the greatest quality of the saints is that they do not feel frustrated realising that the truth is on their side and it must triumph in the long run. There was, therefore, no let up in the activities of the Mission." The Haryana courts acquitted the Sant Nirankaris on grounds of self-defence. Jarnail Singh’s young militant followers and the militant wing of the Akhand Kirtani Jatha (A.K.J.), the Babbar Khalsa, found this unacceptable. Thus, owning to their extremist and highly warped logic led them to conclude that if the law courts of India were not willing to provide justice to the Sikhs, then the Sikhs should take the law into their own hands and deal out justice in their own way.
In a short space of time, the A.K.J. and Samparda Chowk Mehta militants made 2 failed attempts on the Sant Nirankari Guru’s life: first in Kanput (Uttar Pardesh) and then later near the village of Durg (Madhya Pardesh).
On 24th April 1980, the Sant Nirankari Guru, Gurbachan Singh was shot dead at his house by a member of the A.K.J. named Ranjit Singh who had gained employment in the leader's compound. Ten years later, while still serving his sentence in Tihar Jail, Ranjit Singh was named the Jathedar of the Akal Takht by the S.G.P.C led by Gurcharan Singh Torha. In 1996 he took over the post when he was released

Im not sikh, or nirankari..

Where in ur gurbani does it say to kill innocent people?

rather then finding reasons for hating on other people, you should be looking how to improve sikhism and rise up above all hate and violence
whats the point in creating a silly hate group when you could so easily have created a sikh love group anyway im just an outsider, and after great research i foiund the above to be true. just wanted to say stop hating.. start loving
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On 13th April 1978, the Nirankari convention took place in Amritsar. A fanatical agricultural inspector named Fauja Singh, affiliated with the Akhand Kirtani Jatha and Bhindrawala marched through the streets of Amritsar to confront the Sant Nirankaris. They saw it their duty to stop what was in their eyes anti-Sikh preaching, however, along the way Bhindrawala and a few of his close associates slipped away. For this act, Bibi Amarjit Kaur, Fauja Singh’s wife and head of Babbar Khalsa called Bhindrawala a coward.

That day, 12 Sikhs including Fauja Singh and 3 Sant Nirankaris died in the ensuing clash. The 12 Sikhs were immediately declared as martyrs by Akhand Kirtani Jatha (A.K.J.), and Samparda Kartar Singh Sikhs (known popularly as ‘Dam Dami Taksal’). This situation presented Sanjay Gandhi and Jail Singh with a potential political disaster.

The Congress Party began to whip up anti-Sant Nirankari sentiments amongst the Sikhs via their Congress-controlled Sikh temples in Delhi. Not wishing to alienate their coalition partners, the S.G.P.C. Akalis tried to play down the Sant Nirankari incident in Punjab. The Congress-held Gurdwaras in Delhi promoted Bhindrawala as a hero of the Sant Nirankari incident.

Meanwhile the Sant Nirankaris had their court case moved from Punjab to the neighboring state of Haryana because they felt that in Punjab they would not get a fair hearing.

The Akali Dal allowed the Sant Nirankaris to move their case to avoid breaking up the coalition government. The Haryana court acquitted the Sant Nirankaris.

"Quite predictably, the voice of truth first raised by Baba Buta Singh Ji and Avtar Singh Ji and now spread by Baba Gurbachan Singh was opposed by the orthodox. The rapid progress of the Mission under the divine leadership of Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji, in fact, upset these elements to the level of desperation. Baba Ji called upon them to first understand the Mission and then point out if there was anything wrong. But all his gestures fell flat on them.
Nirankari congregations were disturbed at many places. Violent attacks were also reported from several centres. The worst in the chain was the attack on the Baisakhi Smagam in Amritsar on April 13th, 1978. Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji was scheduled to address the Samagam. But before he arrived, about 200 fanatics attacked the congregation. The police opened fire. Eighteen precious lives were lost. The incident was followed by a court case. Several Nirankari saints remained in judicial custody for more than two years before they were acquitted honourably. The case was declared to be false and fabricated.
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Stupid message board not keeping up with my posts. Ignore the 3rd post.

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*yawn*

dont idiots like the above ever get tired of trying to re-write history with shit?
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Why am I an Indian and why the yawn? Have I offended you? If that was the case then I apologise but there was no need to call me an idiot.

I gave you my perspective after doing some research. What did I do so wrong that I had to be reproved by you?
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Why am I an Idiot and why the yawn? Have I offended you? If that was the case then I apologise but there was no need to call me an idiot.

I gave you my perspective after doing some research. What did I do so wrong that I had to be reproved by you?

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Dude, why do you double post? You don't have a very good grip with posting on messageboards do you?

In any case, it seems interesting and I will read the initial content of your thread in earnest when I get a chance.

Word of advice for future reference though mate, put some breaks in between your paragraphs because people will take one look and not bother reading. Breaks in paragraphs make reading the text a little easier on the eyes.

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why are you indian? i dont know, ask waheguru :D. why are you an idiot? you could ask waheguru but i'll make it easy for you. you say that those men who protested against the nirankaris (a religion set up by the RSS) were martyrs, as if it was a bad thing. now these men were unarmed, who peacefully protested against the nirankaris ( who had plenty of guns from guess who? the indian authorities....without licenses!). the nirankaris shot first and no nirankaris died. now tell me where in our religion does it say take the shit that tyrants and evildoers dish out?
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Hari Singh wrote:
why are you indian? i dont know, ask waheguru :D. why are you an idiot? you could ask waheguru but i'll make it easy for you. you say that those men who protested against the nirankaris (a religion set up by the RSS) were martyrs, as if it was a bad thing. now these men were unarmed, who peacefully protested against the nirankaris ( who had plenty of guns from guess who? the indian authorities....without licenses!). the nirankaris shot first and no nirankaris died. now tell me where in our religion does it say take the shit that tyrants and evildoers dish out?
I agree 100%

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I'm quite thick skinned when it comes to reading stuff like this. Unless someone can provide me with a time machine so I can go back and see exactly what happened, then I'll just take everything with a pinch of salt.

At the end of the day either side will write their "own" story and will embelish it as much as possible. It's human nature to exxagerate your own telling of events.

As I say - "A pinch of salt"
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APEX PREDATOR wrote:
I'm quite thick skinned when it comes to reading stuff like this. Unless someone can provide me with a time machine so I can go back and see exactly what happened, then I'll just take everything with a pinch of salt.
At the end of the day either side will write their "own" story and will embelish it as much as possible. It's human nature to exxagerate your own telling of events.
As I say - "A pinch of salt"
Thankyou for the civil response. I don't know why the other chap got so uptight for. As stated earlier I researched something and gave my own perspective on things, I can't see what was so wrong with that to make someone so upset.
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I'm quite thick skinned when it comes to reading stuff like this. Unless someone can provide me with a time machine so I can go back and see exactly what happened, then I'll just take everything with a pinch of salt.
At the end of the day either side will write their "own" story and will embelish it as much as possible. It's human nature to exxagerate your own telling of events.
As I say - "A pinch of salt"
as if Time is not exxagerating the innocence of nirankaries

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come on wrote:
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as if Time is not exxagerating the innocence of nirankaries
Likewise most Sikhs I know will exxagerate their own innocence.

Don't get me wrong I'm not taking sides, but I have a very BIG family. Some of them are proper full on Sikh and some are devoted Nirankaris or even RS(Radha Swami). There's never any punch ups or anything but they all kind of just tend to stay out of each others way.

Anyway I've had an earful from both sides saying this that and other about what happened during the fighting and who threw the first punch or whatever. I am now of the opinion that nobody actually knows the real truth and people are just making up their own truths to support their own stories.

It's ridiculous really. Sh*t happened, it's in the past, move on. Holding a grudge for something that happened years ago is hardly a good display of the principles behind either religion.

That's the way I see it anyway *shrug*
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Part 1 - Sorry got this back to front
On 13th April 1978, the Nirankari convention took place in Amritsar. A fanatical agricultural inspector named Fauja Singh, affiliated with the Akhand Kirtani Jatha and Bhindrawala marched through the streets of Amritsar to confront the Sant Nirankaris. They saw it their duty to stop what was in their eyes anti-Sikh preaching, however, along the way Bhindrawala and a few of his close associates slipped away. For this act, Bibi Amarjit Kaur, Fauja Singh’s wife and head of Babbar Khalsa called Bhindrawala a coward.
That day, 12 Sikhs including Fauja Singh and 3 Sant Nirankaris died in the ensuing clash. The 12 Sikhs were immediately declared as martyrs by Akhand Kirtani Jatha (A.K.J.), and Samparda Kartar Singh Sikhs (known popularly as ‘Dam Dami Taksal’). This situation presented Sanjay Gandhi and Jail Singh with a potential political disaster.
The Congress Party began to whip up anti-Sant Nirankari sentiments amongst the Sikhs via their Congress-controlled Sikh temples in Delhi. Not wishing to alienate their coalition partners, the S.G.P.C. Akalis tried to play down the Sant Nirankari incident in Punjab. The Congress-held Gurdwaras in Delhi promoted Bhindrawala as a hero of the Sant Nirankari incident.
Meanwhile the Sant Nirankaris had their court case moved from Punjab to the neighboring state of Haryana because they felt that in Punjab they would not get a fair hearing.
The Akali Dal allowed the Sant Nirankaris to move their case to avoid breaking up the coalition government. The Haryana court acquitted the Sant Nirankaris.
"Quite predictably, the voice of truth first raised by Baba Buta Singh Ji and Avtar Singh Ji and now spread by Baba Gurbachan Singh was opposed by the orthodox. The rapid progress of the Mission under the divine leadership of Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji, in fact, upset these elements to the level of desperation. Baba Ji called upon them to first understand the Mission and then point out if there was anything wrong. But all his gestures fell flat on them.
Nirankari congregations were disturbed at many places. Violent attacks were also reported from several centres. The worst in the chain was the attack on the Baisakhi Smagam in Amritsar on April 13th, 1978. Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji was scheduled to address the Samagam. But before he arrived, about 200 fanatics attacked the congregation. The police opened fire. Eighteen precious lives were lost. The incident was followed by a court case. Several Nirankari saints remained in judicial custody for more than two years before they were acquitted honourably. The case was declared to be false and fabricated.
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Thankyou for the civil response. I don't know why the other chap got so uptight for. As stated earlier I researched something and gave my own perspective on things, I can't see what was so wrong with that to make someone so upset.
well i'm not upset. i just dont like reading the spilling of someone's ignorance all over a thread. research you say? such as? where you there?
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well i'm not upset. i just dont like reading the spilling of someone's ignorance all over a thread. research you say? such as? where you there?
See now again you're being rude to me by calling me ignorant. What is wrong with you man?

I did some research via the material(s) available to me via books and the internet as well as people I have spoken to. In doing so I gave my perspective, I never said it was gospel and never said that you have to believe it. Why are you being so obstinate?

Of course I wasn't there, that's like asking someone if their father was there when they were conceived.

Anyway you seem to have conveniently ignored the other guys "civil" posting so that you could vent frustration at me instead. What if I questioned your belief in what really happened despite not being there yourself?

You really need to calm down a bit instead of getting all gung-ho with me.

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Time2Reflect_ wrote:
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Of course I wasn't there, that's like asking someone if their father was there when they were conceived.
Your analogy doesnt make sense. One hand you say you werent there, then you imply your father wasnt at your conception. No wonder you post such drivel. Anyway my great uncle was there at the time, and he told my grandad who told me what happened. So up yours.
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This thread is bull
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Your analogy doesnt make sense. One hand you say you werent there, then you imply your father wasnt at your conception. No wonder you post such drivel. Anyway my great uncle was there at the time, and he told my grandad who told me what happened. So up yours.
It does make sense, just not to you and I'm not about waste time explaining it. I don't remember mentioning anything about my father or YOUR father for that matter so again you are being uncivil. As for posting drivel - you're entitled to your opinion as is everyone else :)

Lol at your great uncle telling your dadha. Taking into account your mate APEX's post, you seem to have missed the fact that we as humans have a nasty habit of exxagerating things beyond any reasonable doubt just so that we can further our own means. In which case you can not hand on heart say that the info your uncle passed onto your grandad is the absolute gospel truth, the same goes for anyone doing likewise on the Nirankaris side. Gimme a break!!

"Up yours"

Wow that is very civil and Sikh like, you really are a shining beacon of example to other aspiring sikhs.

I have not once been rude or nasty to you. In fact if anyone is being a true Sikh here - its me. In the face of adversity and negativity and hunkaar I have kept my cool and stuck to my guns without giving any ground. You and your friends however seem to not be able to understand such a concept however. That's your hiccup, not mine.

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