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#222 May 31, 2011
Shadrach wrote:
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I see DK, the sexual climax causes all these dieases.
Lovely just Lovely
Why did God create the sexual climax, organsim, if it was treatning to our health and welfare?
Don't discuss, sexual immorality, just the sexual climax in its self.
You have just demonstrated WHY you deserve membership in the 'dumb and dumber' trinity. Of course, perhaps you can't read. But I doubt that is the case. However, go back and read CAREFULLY what you are referring to.
christine hurwin

Burbank, CA

#223 May 31, 2011
Mr Koot,

Would your life be completely shattered without
Ellen White? What would your life be like without
Ellen White and the Adventist church?

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#224 May 31, 2011
christine hurwin wrote:
Mr Koot,
Tuberculosis is caused by a bacterrium called
mycobacterium tubercilosis. This bacteria typically attacks the lungs but mat also attack
other parts of the body such as the kidney spine and brain. Tubelculosis may also be linked to certain risk factors inculding alcholism iv drug abuse and homelessness. It is spread through the air from on person to another.
1 alcoholism 2. iv drug abuse 3 living conditions
4 poverty 5 immigration from certain countries
6 low body weight 7 medical treatments such as
corticosteriod treatment
7 hiv 8 diabetes 9 cancer 10 leukemia
8 ETC ETC
Tubercillosis is not in any way associated to
masturbation.
These are the medical facts. If you don't want to
believe in the proof and the medical facts then
you are left no other choice than to believe
a pathological liar from 1860 who is not Dr. and
has no licence. Who also claims that an angel
showed her and you do not have proof of that either.
Where is your proof that an angel showed her?Where are your facts?
Tell me something. Have you ever heard of 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'?

What is your level of education? What is your professional background?
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#225 May 31, 2011
David Koot wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me something. Have you ever heard of 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'?
What is your level of education? What is your professional background?
The Standard Koot Reply is;

never reply with specific proof
reply with name calling ask questions instead of replying with substance
always move the issue in question onto another issue
defamate and demean as much as possible
make a claim, I won't discuss things with you
tell people they are stupid

Lovely....

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#226 May 31, 2011
Shadrach wrote:
<quoted text>
The Standard Koot Reply is;
never reply with specific proof
reply with name calling ask questions instead of replying with substance
always move the issue in question onto another issue
defamate and demean as much as possible
make a claim, I won't discuss things with you
tell people they are stupid
Lovely....
In your case, the attribution does appear accurate.

Tell me, have you ever heard of 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'? Also, how familiar are you with the role of micronutrients in mental functioning?
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#227 May 31, 2011
David Koot wrote:
<quoted text>
In your case, the attribution does appear accurate.
Tell me, have you ever heard of 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'? Also, how familiar are you with the role of micronutrients in mental functioning?
well I'll be, I think this is a first. Your actually honest
here. Its a start.

Now go back to Christy and try and answer without asking her a question. You have alot of potential Koot...focus

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#228 May 31, 2011
Shadrach wrote:
<quoted text>
well I'll be, I think this is a first. Your actually honest
here. Its a start.
Dishonest deceiver.

Answer the questions. Are you familiar with the term 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'? And how familiar are you with the role of essential micronutrients in proper mental functioning.

Just answer the questions.

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#229 May 31, 2011
christine hurwin wrote:
Mr Koot,
Would your life be completely shattered without
Ellen White? What would your life be like without
Ellen White and the Adventist church?
Please stick to the issues. Now, how familiar are you with 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'? Also, how familiar are you with the role of essential micronutrients in proper mental functioning?

What is your educational level? Your professional background?
christine hurwin

Burbank, CA

#230 May 31, 2011
Mr Koot,
Please answer the question. Does
msturbation cause a bacterial infection called
tubercilosis( that is passsed through the air).
Does it cause diabetes? Does it cause kidney disease? Does it cause rheumatism and
cancer?

Remember we are in the year 2011. You passed the 12
grade didn't you.

Don't try to wiggle out of this. Your reputation is on the line. Please answer these quetions!

Since: Apr 10

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#231 May 31, 2011
christine hurwin wrote:
Mr Koot,
Please answer the question. Does
msturbation cause a bacterial infection called
tubercilosis( that is passsed through the air).
Does it cause diabetes? Does it cause kidney disease? Does it cause rheumatism and
cancer?
Remember we are in the year 2011. You passed the 12
grade didn't you.
Don't try to wiggle out of this. Your reputation is on the line. Please answer these quetions!
Are you as dumb as POC? Or are you intetionally trying to evade? Funny thing is, you don't even need to know much about a depressed immune system or essential micronutrients. JUST READ WHAT THE LADY WROTE. I quoted it above in my response to CB. You are trying to make a case for something which the author did not say. Either you can't read well, or you are intentionally misrepresenting. Which is it?
KoalaGums

Brisbane, Australia

#232 May 31, 2011
Crazy Baptist wrote:
Simple questions:
1) Does anyone believe that any of these diseases were a result or were caused by SV?
2) Does anyone believe that God told Mrs White these things pertaining to SV?
Blessings, CB
No way, Jose! It was obviously all Victorian superstition.

After all, we don't believe that to open the windows @ night and let the air in will kill U. Back in the 19th Century they did.
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#233 May 31, 2011
David Koot wrote:
<quoted text>
In your case, the attribution does appear accurate.
Tell me, have you ever heard of 'immunodeficiency disorder'? How about 'depressed immune system'? Also, how familiar are you with the role of micronutrients in mental functioning?
It looks as though you will go to the ends of the earth for ellen, even to the degrading of yourself. You are making it up pretty thick now....this is not a good thing.

Koot, I suggest you go see someone,seriously.
Diane

Vista, CA

#234 May 31, 2011
David Koot, I had struggles with Ellens writings because what she wrote was not proven to me that her messages came directly from our Lord. There is no way to see and know God spoke to the angel or to her. This you have to take by faith by what she said or happened. This is dangerous because our faith cannot be put in man. Our faith is only placed in the word of God. This is truth. So think about where your faith is placed. Is it in Ellen, the sda church, the Pope. yourself ..... or is your faith in the rock. Ellen is a human being with warts and all. Many false prophets use God to sell for them in His name, their own ideas etc. After all, how can you prove God really said these things. A perfect way not to be proven wrong for the false prophet.
Birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#235 May 31, 2011
Crazy Baptist wrote:
Simple questions:
1) Does anyone believe that any of these diseases were a result or were caused by SV?
2) Does anyone believe that God told Mrs White these things pertaining to SV?
Blessings, CB
THE answer to both are NO,

CB been gone and just read all ythe postings , very interresting, and I can see those who just cannot believe that EGW was wrong.

Keep up the good work, I believe the same as you if it came from God then you had better prove it to me.

I could care less about some who say EGW said it and that is that and then quote a verse, does nothing for me.

I have never read much of EGW, and now I am learning why.
Diane

Vista, CA

#236 May 31, 2011
David Koot, in kindness, take your heart and defend your Father's words to the world knowing it is the pure truth to defend. To defend Ellen's words to the world is without proof from God.
christine hurwin

Los Angeles, CA

#237 May 31, 2011
Mr Koot,

EGW has lied to everyone. There are no giants on
Saturn and Enoch is not on Jupitor. Tubercilosis
and Kidney disease and cancer is not calused by
masturbation. Isreal is a state. We did not go to
war with England. Certain races of men is not the
result of amalgamatin between man and beast.Wigs
won't make you go insane. Hot porridge won't
heat your blood. Cornflakes woon't keep you
from getting sexual urges. Wearing a wet girdle
to bed at night won't keep you from wanting sex.
( well maybe on that one Ha Ha)
There is a definate problem with EGW. God did
not tell her all of this from an angel. This
discredits God the Father by EGW using God as
a tool to spread these bizarre statements to elevate her position. This is a form of narcissism. Notice how EGW begins alot of her
statements with I was shown, What was presented
before me. The angel showed me. ALL OF THIS SAYS
LOOK AT ME I AM CHOSEN AND SPECIAL-BELIEVE EVERYING
I SAY OR YOU WON'T GO TO HEAVEN. It is called
emotional control. Now what happens is her flock
sees her as an authority figure and feels a sense of duty to her. Then there is peer pressure to
make her flock behave and never question her
visions or dreams doctrine. So everyone becomes
an Ellen White robot. Eat, dress, behave, don't
question. Everyone stay in their place ELLEN WHITE
is equal to Jesus and so is her writtings.

You can't own up to this because you are a pupit
of the SDA church. Which ever way you turn you
compromise your intelligence.
Crazy Baptist

Winnsboro, SC

#238 May 31, 2011
Birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
THE answer to both are NO,
CB been gone and just read all ythe postings , very interresting, and I can see those who just cannot believe that EGW was wrong.
Keep up the good work, I believe the same as you if it came from God then you had better prove it to me.
I could care less about some who say EGW said it and that is that and then quote a verse, does nothing for me.
I have never read much of EGW, and now I am learning why.
Starting to think that I should have avoided this thread also.

If I were to claim to you right now that HIV is caused by eating icecream or that riding a horse would cause elephantitus of the ears you would label me insane.

When God changed the number of a man's years to @ 70 or 80, thousands of yrs ago, it has not changed. New diseases, war, and the like have not changed that average, just as well as new medical procedures, scientific discoveries, and new medicines have had little bearing on that average either.

That my friend is fact.

The bible says:

Deuteronomy 18:22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

Mrs White proclaimed that God told her that all these physical side effects, physical diseases and mental conditions were caused by masturbation.

The facts are they are not.

It appears that Mrs White spoke presumptuously.

CB

Birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#239 May 31, 2011
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
Starting to think that I should have avoided this thread also.
If I were to claim to you right now that HIV is caused by eating icecream or that riding a horse would cause elephantitus of the ears you would label me insane.
When God changed the number of a man's years to @ 70 or 80, thousands of yrs ago, it has not changed. New diseases, war, and the like have not changed that average, just as well as new medical procedures, scientific discoveries, and new medicines have had little bearing on that average either.
That my friend is fact.
The bible says:
Deuteronomy 18:22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
Mrs White proclaimed that God told her that all these physical side effects, physical diseases and mental conditions were caused by masturbation.
The facts are they are not.
It appears that Mrs White spoke presumptuously.
CB
You are very correct, I believe one MUST prove all points of belief from Scripture. If not then it is just hearsay, and that does not stand up.

Like what you said, we could all say things but that does not make them BiblicaL.
David Koot

Petaluma, CA

#240 May 31, 2011
Crazy Baptist wrote:
Mrs White proclaimed that God told her that all these physical side effects, physical diseases and mental conditions were caused by masturbation.
The facts are they are not.
It appears that Mrs White spoke presumptuously.
CB
Here is what she said, from what you posted earlier:
""The practice of secret habits surely destroys the vital forces of the system ... Among the young the vital capital, and the brain are so severely taxed at an early age, that there is deficiency and great exhaustion, which leave the system exposed to diseases of various kinds."
That is known nowadays as 'depressed immune system" 'which leaves the system exposed to diseases of various kinds' including tb in those days.
do you disagree with that? If so, on what basis?

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#241 May 31, 2011
Shadrach wrote:
<quoted text>
It looks as though you will go to the ends of the earth for ellen, even to the degrading of yourself. You are making it up pretty thick now....this is not a good thing.
Koot, I suggest you go see someone,seriously.
Amazing! Surely you can read. but you may well be ignorant of some things. Here is what the author wrote:

""The practice of secret habits surely destroys the vital forces of the system ... Among the young the vital capital, and the brain are so severely taxed at an early age, that there is deficiency and great exhaustion, which leave the system exposed to diseases of various kinds."

Once again,'deficiency and great exhaustion, which leave the system exposed to diseases of various kinds.'

This is known as 'immunodeficiency disorder' or 'depressed immune system,''which leaves the system exposed to diseases of various kinds,' including tuberculosis in her day, which was widespread.

Do you dispute the foregoing? If so, on what basis?

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