Dwight Nelson
Diane

San Diego, CA

#816 Sep 5, 2012
Lay Worker, so then you are just going to sit back and let time take it's course without a fight ? Is that correct ? Can't you save your grandchildren a longer period of time without this hell on them now ? Would you have sat back and let Hitler run his course and not fight back ? We can stop this you know by being strong and getting these blind teachers out of the church. Don't pay them. Come on Lay Worker, fight for liberty, Jesus Christ, and not Allah teachers who preach a false God to the dumb sheep who sleep.
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#817 Sep 5, 2012
Diane wrote:
Lay Worker, what will you men do too take out Nelson and his partners regarding Allah ? What will you do to rid this evil from the Church ? What will you do ? Can't you picket his church, the conference, with some power from the people ? If not, why not ? You can't let Satan laugh in your face and do nothing about it. He knows that Adventisim is blind and knows that the men are weak and feminine. What will you do Lay Worker and others ? Do something....just don't sit. Get up and fight for God, not Allah. Save you grandchildren from Allah. Do something.
Wahhabi are you doing to get rid of the murderers of the Sob of God, the Jews? Or you don't care and take THEIR side against Him?
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#818 Sep 7, 2012
Diane wrote:
Lay Worker, so then you are just going to sit back and let time take it's course without a fight ? Is that correct ? Can't you save your grandchildren a longer period of time without this hell on them now ? Would you have sat back and let Hitler run his course and not fight back ? We can stop this you know by being strong and getting these blind teachers out of the church. Don't pay them. Come on Lay Worker, fight for liberty, Jesus Christ, and not Allah teachers who preach a false God to the dumb sheep who sleep.
The problem CANNOT be stopped - notice ...

"At the time of the loud cry of the third angel those who have been in any measure blinded by the enemy, who have not fully recovered themselves from the snare of Satan, will be in peril, because it will be difficult for them to discern the light from heaven, and they will be inclined to accept falsehood.

Their erroneous experience will color their thoughts, their decisions, their propositions, their counsels. The evidences that God has given will be no evidence to those who have blinded their eyes by choosing darkness rather than light. After rejecting light, they will originate theories which they will call "light," but which the Lord calls, "Sparks of their own kindling," by which they will direct their steps. The Lord declares, "Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? Let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God. Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled.

This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow." Jesus said: "For judgment I am come into the world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind." "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness." "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." {RH, December 13, 1892 par. 3}
By many the words which the Lord sent will be rejected, and the words that man may speak will be received as light and truth. Jesus says, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." Human wisdom will lead away from self-denial, from consecration, and will devise many things that tend to make of no effect God's messages.

We cannot with any safety rely upon men who are not in close connection with God. They will accept the opinions of men, but cannot discern the voice of the True Shepherd, and their influence will lead many astray, though evidence is piled upon evidence testifying to the verity of truth for these days.

The truth is powerful to turn men to Christ, to quicken their energies, to subdue and soften their hearts, and inspire them with zeal, devotion, and love to God....

As the end approaches, the testimonies of God's servants will become more decided and more powerful, flashing the light of truth upon the systems of error and oppression that have so long held the supremacy.

The Lord has sent us messages for this time, that will establish Christianity upon an eternal basis; and all who believe the present truth, must stand, not in their own wisdom, but in God's wisdom, and raise up the foundations of many generations; and they will be registered in the books of heaven as "repairers of the breach," the "restorer of paths to dwell in."

In face of the bitterest opposition, we are to maintain the truth because it is truth. God is at work upon human minds; it is not man alone that is working. The great illuminating power is from Christ; the brightness of his example is to be kept before the people in every discourse. His love is the glory of the rainbow encircling the throne on high.{RH, December 13, 1892 par. 5}

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#819 Sep 7, 2012
Filling in the ellipsis and quoting the last two paragraphs correctly:

"By many the words which the Lord sent will be rejected, and the words that man may speak will be received as light and truth. Jesus says,“I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” Human wisdom will lead away from self-denial, from consecration, and will devise many things that tend to make of no effect God’s messages. We cannot with any safety rely upon men who are not in close connection with God. They will accept the opinions of men, but cannot discern the voice of the True Shepherd, and their influence will lead many astray, though evidence is piled upon evidence testifying to the verity of truth for these days. The truth is powerful to turn men to Christ, to quicken their energies, to subdue and soften their hearts, and inspire them with zeal, devotion, and love to God. The Sabbath truth must in no case be covered up. We must let it appear in strong contrast with error.{RH December 13, 1892, par. 4}

As the end approaches, the testimonies of God’s servants will become more decided and more powerful, flashing the light of truth upon the systems of error and oppression that have so long held the supremacy. The Lord has sent us messages for this time, that will establish Christianity upon an eternal basis; and all who believe the present truth, must stand, not in their own wisdom, but in God’s wisdom, and raise up the foundations of many generations; and they will be registered in the books of heaven as “repairers of the breach,” the “restorer of paths to dwell in.” In face of the bitterest opposition, we are to maintain the truth because it is truth. God is at work upon human minds; it is not man alone that is working. The great illuminating power is from Christ; the brightness of his example is to be kept before the people in every discourse. His love is the glory of the rainbow encircling the throne on high." {RH December 13, 1892, par. 5}
Gerhard Ebersoehn

Johannesburg, South Africa

#820 Sep 7, 2012
... computers ... tell you what's not in the mind ...
ORM-11-347

Blackwater, Australia

#821 Oct 13, 2012
Please , if there is so much varied opinion on DNs sermon "ALLAH IS GOD" etc. It is obviously harmful, and disturbing to those of simple faith .... the biblical followers of the True God.
Please could there be DNs full sermon posted. Or alternatively, if this is not possible,
An authoritative explanation, by a senior member of the General Conference,of SDAs. As there are many confused readers in Internet land, and their many contacts.
With forwarded emails this has now gone viral, and must make Satan smile..........
Pioneer

Mesa, AZ

#822 Oct 13, 2012
ORM-11-347 wrote:
Please , if there is so much varied opinion on DNs sermon "ALLAH IS GOD" etc. It is obviously harmful, and disturbing to those of simple faith .... the biblical followers of the True God.
Please could there be DNs full sermon posted. Or alternatively, if this is not possible,
An authoritative explanation, by a senior member of the General Conference,of SDAs. As there are many confused readers in Internet land, and their many contacts.
With forwarded emails this has now gone viral, and must make Satan smile..........
What are you a long time snoozing Laodicean?

You are actually wanting to ask a senior member of the General Conference,of SDAs

In EGW's time the church became a harlot and EGW said That Genera; Conference men were NO LONGER the voice of God, never would be again, that many years ago and your going to put your faith in them?

Are you for real? Don't you have a mind cannot you think for yourself and the whole sermon is on the internet and what he said is not taken out of context either .

No matter what Laodicean tries to tell you otherwise, they are liars, you can see for yourself, stop being a sheep following blind leaders, who are leading the blind.
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#823 Oct 13, 2012
ORM-11-347 wrote:
Please , if there is so much varied opinion on DNs sermon "ALLAH IS GOD" etc. It is obviously harmful, and disturbing to those of simple faith .... the biblical followers of the True God.
Please could there be DNs full sermon posted. Or alternatively, if this is not possible,
An authoritative explanation, by a senior member of the General Conference,of SDAs. As there are many confused readers in Internet land, and their many contacts.
With forwarded emails this has now gone viral, and must make Satan smile..........
What has "now gone viral"?

CB
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#824 Nov 27, 2012
ORM-11-347 wrote:
Please , if there is so much varied opinion on DNs sermon "ALLAH IS GOD" etc. It is obviously harmful, and disturbing to those of simple faith .... the biblical followers of the True God.
Please could there be DNs full sermon posted. Or alternatively, if this is not possible,
An authoritative explanation, by a senior member of the General Conference,of SDAs. As there are many confused readers in Internet land, and their many contacts.
With forwarded emails this has now gone viral, and must make Satan smile..........
The Jews are THE Antichrist. John said so. See 1 John 2:22.
Lay Worker

Myrtleford, Australia

#825 Nov 27, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem CANNOT be stopped - notice ...
"At the time of the loud cry of the third angel those who have been in any measure blinded by the enemy, who have not fully recovered themselves from the snare of Satan, will be in peril, because it will be difficult for them to discern the light from heaven, and they will be inclined to accept falsehood.
Their erroneous experience will color their thoughts, their decisions, their propositions, their counsels. The evidences that God has given will be no evidence to those who have blinded their eyes by choosing darkness rather than light. After rejecting light, they will originate theories which they will call "light," but which the Lord calls, "Sparks of their own kindling," by which they will direct their steps. The Lord declares, "Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? Let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God. Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled.
This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow." Jesus said: "For judgment I am come into the world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind." "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness." "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." {RH, December 13, 1892 par. 3}
By many the words which the Lord sent will be rejected, and the words that man may speak will be received as light and truth. Jesus says, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." Human wisdom will lead away from self-denial, from consecration, and will devise many things that tend to make of no effect God's messages.
We cannot with any safety rely upon men who are not in close connection with God. They will accept the opinions of men, but cannot discern the voice of the True Shepherd, and their influence will lead many astray, though evidence is piled upon evidence testifying to the verity of truth for these days.
The truth is powerful to turn men to Christ, to quicken their energies, to subdue and soften their hearts, and inspire them with zeal, devotion, and love to God....
As the end approaches, the testimonies of God's servants will become more decided and more powerful, flashing the light of truth upon the systems of error and oppression that have so long held the supremacy.
The Lord has sent us messages for this time, that will establish Christianity upon an eternal basis; and all who believe the present truth, must stand, not in their own wisdom, but in God's wisdom, and raise up the foundations of many generations; and they will be registered in the books of heaven as "repairers of the breach," the "restorer of paths to dwell in."
In face of the bitterest opposition, we are to maintain the truth because it is truth. God is at work upon human minds; it is not man alone that is working. The great illuminating power is from Christ; the brightness of his example is to be kept before the people in every discourse. His love is the glory of the rainbow encircling the throne on high.{RH, December 13, 1892 par. 5}
Unanswered
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#826 Nov 27, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Unanswered
Ellen White said we should not answer the unanswerable.
Lay Worker

Myrtleford, Australia

#827 Nov 27, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Note the showpony in the following presentation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fU6-rKqfigMXX
Conclusion:

The showpony is convivial to unrighteousness
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#828 Nov 27, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Conclusion:
The showpony is convivial to unrighteousness
Ellen's White said we should not condemn the innocent who are tring to bring world peace.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#829 Dec 1, 2012
>An authoritative explanation, by a senior member of the General Conference,of SDAs.

The SDA's do not operate under such a model of governance.

>As there are many confused readers in Internet land, and their many contacts.

There's no real confusion. He was showed that LINQUISTICALLY, Yahweh in the OT is also called "Allah" in Arab lands.

"Allah is a word for God. In Arabic, the word means simply "the God."[1][2][3] It is used mainly by Muslims,[4] Arab Christians,..." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Those with an agenda to attack the SDA church do not tell you that.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#830 Dec 1, 2012
Blackberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Ellen's White said we should not condemn the innocent who are tring to bring world peace.
Prove it.

Lie #272.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#831 Dec 1, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Unanswered
He does this repeatedly and doesn't take the hint.
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#832 Dec 1, 2012
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Prove it.
Lie #272.
Ellen White said we should not condemn the innocent before a fair trial. But you are not following her at all. You ask for proof, and denounce it even before it is presented. Ellen White said that type of action is a big no-no in the investigative judgment.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#833 Dec 8, 2012
Blackberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Ellen White said we should not condemn the innocent before a fair trial.
Prove it.
But you are not following her at all.
I follow no person.
You ask for proof, and denounce it even before it is presented.
I know a lie when I hear it. Note that you didn't boither proving your claim--thereby showing that you knew it to be a lie.
Ellen White said that type of action is a big no-no in the investigative judgment.
Prove it.
Desert Helper

Christchurch, New Zealand

#834 Feb 15, 2013
He was simply describing the word Allah... The meaning and pathos of the word is the closest to the Hebrew name of Elohim. The English word for GOD is not as descriptively close to the name of 'The Most High' as Allah.

He is talking about the meaning of the word, and not the connotative belief that surrounds it. Its as if a Buddhist calls Buddha 'god' instead of Buddha and Christians use another name for God. We would demonize the term 'god' solely for its relations to Buddhism. That is what we are doing with the term,'Allah'. The meaning is what Pastor Nelson is emphasizing.
Anonymous

South Africa

#835 Feb 16, 2013
I believe in God the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. The God I believe in, in no manner has 'relations to Buddhism' or Islam or Roman Catholicism's many false no-gods.

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