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The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#1 Sep 28, 2012
Here is the Genealogy of Mary and Jesus.

Mary was a cousin to Elisabeth who was of the house of Aaron.

Mary was with child by the seed of the Holy Ghost. She was with child not by marriage.

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

The birth of Jesus had nothing to do with the house of David. And as according to the Law of Moses, Mary would have been stoned. Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh nor by birth.
So tell me why would anyone list Joseph as the father of Jesus in his Genealogy?
Either they actually believed it or they were hiding the fact that He wasn't. Which would be a lie. A deception.

Maybe some of the Apostles did not believe that God was the actual father of Jesus.

Just like some of you.

Why was nothing written about the Genealogy of Mary. Tell me. Why was the Genealogy of Joseph written about when it had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the birth of Jesus or his Genealogy.

Jesus said that he was not of this world. Jesus came down from Heaven. This is undeniable proof that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh.
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Brampton, Canada

#2 Sep 28, 2012
The Virtue of Truth wrote:
Here is the Genealogy of Mary and Jesus.
Mary was a cousin to Elisabeth who was of the house of Aaron.
Mary was with child by the seed of the Holy Ghost. She was with child not by marriage.
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The birth of Jesus had nothing to do with the house of David. And as according to the Law of Moses, Mary would have been stoned. Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh nor by birth.
So tell me why would anyone list Joseph as the father of Jesus in his Genealogy?
Either they actually believed it or they were hiding the fact that He wasn't. Which would be a lie. A deception.
Maybe some of the Apostles did not believe that God was the actual father of Jesus.
Just like some of you.
Why was nothing written about the Genealogy of Mary. Tell me. Why was the Genealogy of Joseph written about when it had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the birth of Jesus or his Genealogy.
Jesus said that he was not of this world. Jesus came down from Heaven. This is undeniable proof that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh.
I could leave you to wallow in your ignorance, or I could heal you with the truth. What do you prefer?
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#3 Sep 28, 2012
You are essentially correct. I would point out that Mary was the surrogate mother of Jesus, NOT His natural genetic mother as Paul said in Rom. 1. You clearly pointed this out in your post. Jesus was the SON of God the Father and the Holy Spirit. This makes the Holy Spirit the actual MOTHER of Jesus, and this is stated clearly in Rev. 12.

Jesus was included in the genealogies because in order to fulfill the prophecies Jesus must be a Priest from the tribe of Levi (Mary's side of the family) and a King, of the house of David (from Joseph's side). This has nothing to do with His genetics, as you so well pointed out.

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#4 Sep 28, 2012
No finite mind can fully comprehend the character or the works of the Infinite One. We cannot by searching find out God. To the strongest and most highly cultured minds, as well as to the weakest and most ignorant, that holy Being must remain clothed in mystery.“Clouds and darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne.” Psalm 97:2. We can understand as much of His purposes as we are capable of comprehending; beyond this we may still trust the hand that is omnipotent, the heart that is full of love.

The Word of God, like the character of its Author, presents mysteries that can never be fully comprehended by finite beings. But God has given in the Scriptures sufficient evidence of their divine authority. His own existence, His character, the truthfulness of His word, are established by testimony that appeals to our reason—and this testimony is abundant. True, He has not removed the possibility of doubt; faith must rest upon evidence, not demonstration. Those who wish to doubt have opportunity, but those who desire to know the truth find ample ground for faith.

We have no reason to doubt God’s Word because we cannot understand the mysteries of His providence. In the natural world we are constantly surrounded with wonders beyond our grasp. Should we then be surprised to find in the spiritual world mysteries that we cannot fathom? The difficulty lies solely in the weakness and narrowness of the human mind.– TEd 101.1-3

Bibleuniverse
ROBERT TWO

Port Pirie, Australia

#5 Sep 28, 2012
The Virtue of Truth wrote:
Here is the Genealogy of Mary and Jesus.
Mary was a cousin to Elisabeth who was of the house of Aaron.
Mary was with child by the seed of the Holy Ghost. She was with child not by marriage.
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The birth of Jesus had nothing to do with the house of David. And as according to the Law of Moses, Mary would have been stoned. Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh nor by birth.
So tell me why would anyone list Joseph as the father of Jesus in his Genealogy?
Either they actually believed it or they were hiding the fact that He wasn't. Which would be a lie. A deception.
Maybe some of the Apostles did not believe that God was the actual father of Jesus.
Just like some of you.
Why was nothing written about the Genealogy of Mary. Tell me. Why was the Genealogy of Joseph written about when it had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the birth of Jesus or his Genealogy.
Jesus said that he was not of this world. Jesus came down from Heaven. This is undeniable proof that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh.
Being born in JUDEA made JESUS a real JEW. Of flesh they were HEBREW. If you check on MARY she was in line with KING DAVID a HEBREW. Only Citizens of JUDEA have the right to the name JEW.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#6 Sep 28, 2012
Dennis wrote:
You are essentially correct. I would point out that Mary was the surrogate mother of Jesus, NOT His natural genetic mother as Paul said in Rom. 1. You clearly pointed this out in your post. Jesus was the SON of God the Father and the Holy Spirit. This makes the Holy Spirit the actual MOTHER of Jesus, and this is stated clearly in Rev. 12.
Jesus was included in the genealogies because in order to fulfill the prophecies Jesus must be a Priest from the tribe of Levi (Mary's side of the family) and a King, of the house of David (from Joseph's side). This has nothing to do with His genetics, as you so well pointed out.
Jesus said he was not of the house of David.

So tell me How exactly Jesus was of the house of David.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#7 Sep 28, 2012
ROBERT TWO wrote:
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Being born in JUDEA made JESUS a real JEW. Of flesh they were HEBREW. If you check on MARY she was in line with KING DAVID a HEBREW. Only Citizens of JUDEA have the right to the name JEW.
This is all incorrect.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#8 Sep 28, 2012
Signs of the Times wrote:
No finite mind can fully comprehend the character or the works of the Infinite One. We cannot by searching find out God. To the strongest and most highly cultured minds, as well as to the weakest and most ignorant, that holy Being must remain clothed in mystery.“Clouds and darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne.” Psalm 97:2. We can understand as much of His purposes as we are capable of comprehending; beyond this we may still trust the hand that is omnipotent, the heart that is full of love.
The Word of God, like the character of its Author, presents mysteries that can never be fully comprehended by finite beings. But God has given in the Scriptures sufficient evidence of their divine authority. His own existence, His character, the truthfulness of His word, are established by testimony that appeals to our reason—and this testimony is abundant. True, He has not removed the possibility of doubt; faith must rest upon evidence, not demonstration. Those who wish to doubt have opportunity, but those who desire to know the truth find ample ground for faith.
We have no reason to doubt God’s Word because we cannot understand the mysteries of His providence. In the natural world we are constantly surrounded with wonders beyond our grasp. Should we then be surprised to find in the spiritual world mysteries that we cannot fathom? The difficulty lies solely in the weakness and narrowness of the human mind.– TEd 101.1-3
Bibleuniverse
You said all this and proved nothing.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#9 Sep 28, 2012
Let u stay with the facts.

Not your speculation and unproven opinions and unproven hypothesis.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#10 Sep 28, 2012
First if you can prove that Jesus was even a Jew of the flesh.

I have already proven he was not.

If you dispute my proof then provide your proof.

Speculation and unproven opinions and unproven hypothesis...

IS NOT PROOF.
A Voice In The Wilderness

Langhorne, PA

#11 Sep 28, 2012
Dennis wrote:
You are essentially correct. I would point out that Mary was the surrogate mother of Jesus, NOT His natural genetic mother as Paul said in Rom. 1. You clearly pointed this out in your post. Jesus was the SON of God the Father and the Holy Spirit. This makes the Holy Spirit the actual MOTHER of Jesus, and this is stated clearly in Rev. 12.
Jesus was included in the genealogies because in order to fulfill the prophecies Jesus must be a Priest from the tribe of Levi (Mary's side of the family) and a King, of the house of David (from Joseph's side). This has nothing to do with His genetics, as you so well pointed out.
Look at what you wrote. Then look at the title of this thread.

Now connect the two.
ROBERT TWO

Port Pirie, Australia

#12 Sep 28, 2012
The Virtue of Truth wrote:
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This is all incorrect.
How little you know.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#13 Sep 28, 2012
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
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Look at what you wrote. Then look at the title of this thread.
Now connect the two.
What proof do you have that shows us that you are not deceived?

Just your word? Like his?
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#14 Sep 28, 2012
ROBERT TWO wrote:
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How little you know.
I know if you go back and look at robert two's old post,

he never capitalized his screen name.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#15 Sep 28, 2012
Not his unregistered screen name.

And if you cannot prove what you say...then you how do you know what you said is true?

First you must establish what you say is true.

Then you can say

Something as stupid as

"little do you know"
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#16 Sep 28, 2012
Everything I have said is proved.

You do not have to take my word for it.
ROBERT TWO

Port Pirie, Australia

#17 Sep 28, 2012
The Virtue of Truth wrote:
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I know if you go back and look at robert two's old post,
he never capitalized his screen name.
He does now.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#18 Sep 28, 2012
ROBERT TWO wrote:
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He does now.
No

I have a strong hunch you are not the real robert two.
The Virtue of Truth

San Antonio, TX

#19 Sep 28, 2012
You were to stupid to realize that when you copied his screen name..he never used any capital letters.

How you got a hold of his old registered name The Lord did not tell me.

But I know you are not the robert from new zealand.
ROBERT TWO

Port Pirie, Australia

#20 Sep 28, 2012
The Virtue of Truth wrote:
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No
I have a strong hunch you are not the real robert two.
Well you want to be wrong then.

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