The Fourth Dilemma
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Since: Aug 08

Ramat Gan, Israel

#21 Sep 9, 2008
I have just finished reading "The Fourth Dilemma."
It's more than a dilemma; it's a paradox: To exhibit the Ten Commandments and at the same time,
nail them to the cross.

Such a dilemma does not have to be a dilemma for Christians, for Paul has waved the keeping of a day to any day one pleases or even if one pleases not to keep any day at all.(Rom. 14:5,6)

Still for Christians, first or seventh makes no difference as long as one counts from the day one
starts and finishes his or her six days of work.

As we have in page 7, that's a strange Jewish belief" and that's what it is. The Shabbat as a holy day of rest on the seventh-day of the week is
a Jewish thing and not Christian.(Ezek.20:12,20) Christians have no obligation to that commandment. Their obligation is restricted to the Noahite laws, and the Sabbath is not one of them.

The Catholic Church was not the one that abolished the Sabbath day. It might have established Sunday instead, but the Sabbath of the seventh-day has been waved by Paul himlself.

According to page 15, Jesus did not institute the seventh-day Sabbath. Jesus did not exist prior to being born from Joseph and Mary. To think so one is already breaking the first commandment which goes against idolatry.
Ben
SDAdventist

Fort Myers, FL

#22 Sep 15, 2008
Ben Masada wrote:
I have just finished reading "The Fourth Dilemma."
It's more than a dilemma; it's a paradox: To exhibit the Ten Commandments and at the same time,
nail them to the cross.
Such a dilemma does not have to be a dilemma for Christians, for Paul has waved the keeping of a day to any day one pleases or even if one pleases not to keep any day at all.(Rom. 14:5,6)
Still for Christians, first or seventh makes no difference as long as one counts from the day one
starts and finishes his or her six days of work.
As we have in page 7, that's a strange Jewish belief" and that's what it is. The Shabbat as a holy day of rest on the seventh-day of the week is
a Jewish thing and not Christian.(Ezek.20:12,20) Christians have no obligation to that commandment. Their obligation is restricted to the Noahite laws, and the Sabbath is not one of them.
The Catholic Church was not the one that abolished the Sabbath day. It might have established Sunday instead, but the Sabbath of the seventh-day has been waved by Paul himlself.
According to page 15, Jesus did not institute the seventh-day Sabbath. Jesus did not exist prior to being born from Joseph and Mary. To think so one is already breaking the first commandment which goes against idolatry.
Ben
So you dont accept Jesus as the Son of God..

Since: Aug 08

Ramat Gan, Israel

#23 Sep 15, 2008
SDAdventist wrote:
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So you dont accept Jesus as the Son of God..
++++++++++
I am sure you understand why I can't. Jesus was Jewish, and in Judaism there is no such a thing
as Greek Mythology.
harrison

AOL

#24 Sep 28, 2008
I ordered the book and think it's great. The author seems to be a Seventh day Baptist because of his wonderful insight about how salvation works. SDA's do not believe in the assurance of salvation, and believes it is sin to say "I am saved" (Ellen White). They also teach the Sabbath as a cold, legal requirement. I was amazed to read how the author pionted out that the Sabbath comes from creation, with the ultimate goal to lead us to the REAL REST in Christ. Thanks Sherry..you motivated me to get the book. After 20 years out of the church, this moves me to keep the Sabbath again..perhaps I should check out the SDA's ...maybe they've changed!
Kingfisher

Gulf Breeze, FL

#25 May 8, 2013
sherry wrote:
very good book...i really feel with the Sabbath as a symbol and entering in of the rest of the human spirit with the Devine
The book is available at any ABC bookstore, printed by Review&Herald for .35c. Bargain! For an interview on Hope Channel, Google: Barkhuizen on YouTube.
This can also be ordered free as a download from radiogoodhope@aol.com I heard it was translated into Afrikaans, Korean, Spanish and Zulu. But not sure. Great read!
searcher

Orange, TX

#26 May 8, 2013
I bought a couple boxes of The Fourth Dilemma at Campmeeting and really enjoy sharing these truths with family, friends and also some legalistic church members!
JesusWasNOTaJew Googleit

San Jose, CA

#27 May 8, 2013
Ben Masada wrote:
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I am sure you understand why I can't. Jesus was Jewish, and in Judaism there is no such a thing
as Greek Mythology.
No, He was a Judean but that means nothing regarding 'religion' just as being a Texan means nothing about one's faith etc.
Those who actually Know the Bible know that Israel is a spiritual concept, a people, NOT a physical place, that TRUE Israelites are Yahweh's chosen people and they are Christians!

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