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Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#1 Nov 10, 2008
There is the Kingdom of Darkness
There is the Kingdom of Light

There is the Kingdom of Satan and Death
There is the Kingdom of God and Life

There are Two Men who are associated with
each Kingdom,
One Man Adam
One Man Jesus

We are either with Adam in the Kingdom of Death
or
We are with Christ in the Kingdom of Life

We must choose to either remain in Adam or to
live in Christ

There is not any other Kingdom

Now

Thru Adam..........
we become slaves to sin
Adam's sin brought him the divine sentence of condemnation Rom 5-16
This means that God found him guilty of sinning and sentenced him to punishment. Since this sin involved Adam's posterity, it brought them this guilt Rom 5-12 3-23
Because Adam's sin totally corrupted his human
nature, each of his children received from him
a corrupted human nature Gen 5-3. Each succeeding
generation received from their parents(the father)
a wholly corrupted human nature.
Gen 6-5 Job 14-4 Ps 51-5 Eccles 9-3 Jer 17-9
Rom 1-21 to 32 3-9 to 18
This corruption is called "total depravity" and
"total inability". This inherent corruption extends to every part of the unsaved person's human nature ( body, soul and spirit). It affects his thinking Gen 6-5 8-21 Rom 1-21,22,23 8-5,8
Adam and his Posterity are cut out "spiritually"
with God. This is "spiritual death".
No Relationship with God, only Darkness

Under Adam ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
The difference between Godly and unGodly is "sin"
Rom 5-6
All are Guilty Before God in Adam Rom 3-8
Whoever commits sin commits lawlessness,
sin is lawlessness 1 Jn 3-4
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#2 Nov 10, 2008
We receive from Adam

weakness..........Rom 5-6
ungodliness..........Rom 5-6
sinfulness..........Rom 5-7,8
wrath..........Rom 5-9
Warfare..........Rom 5-10 Matt 12-30

God's standard for us is Perfection
Is there anyone who is perfect, no, not one!
If you break the law, you have broken all
If a traffic cop stops you for speeding,what good
will it be to tell him you kept all the other laws

If you are suspended over molten lava by chain link, how many links have to break before you fall
to your death. One, you break one law, your dead.

Lawlessness is sin..........1 Jn3-4
Doing what we ought not to do is sin.....Jm 2-10
Failing to do what we ought to do is sin Jm 4-17
Unbelief in God, not believing God is sin Rom14-23
Human Goodness is sin..........Prv 21-4

Under Adam God will pour out His wrath
Bible teaches in Adam all die
Bible does not teach.........reincarantion
..........a second chance
..........annihilation
..........universalism,
that everyone will be saved

No one in Adam will be saved from Condemnation
God is a Holy just God
If you die without Christ ( a natural man) you will face His judgement and wrath Rom 5-10
You will go to hell
The unrighteouness we recieve from Adam has to be Judged
If your in Adam, you are an enemy of God
Sin is High Tresason against heavens King
Sin is a clinched fist in the Face of God
If you are not with Christ your against Christ
You cannot be neutral
If you are not 100% for Him
You are 100% against Him
WE RECEIVE ALL THIS FROM ADAM
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#3 Nov 10, 2008
Thru One Mans Disobedience we are SLAVES to sin
and CONDEMED..........ADAM

.....THROUGH JESUS we are made Righteous Rom 5-19
We are Saved by One Man
For All Die in Adam,
For All in Christ shall be Made ALIVE

Think about what we lost in Adam
Think about what we gain in Christ

What we gain through Jesus..........
3 Words associated with the Cross
Justice
Mercy
Grace

Justice is God giving us what we deserve
Mercy is God not giving us what we deserve
Grace is God giving us what we do not deserve

These words are from Calvary..........Rom 5-9

But God demonstrates His own love toward us,
in that while we were still sinners,
Christ died for us

Much more then, having now been justified by His Blood we shall be Saved from His wrath to come.

For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the Death of His Son, much more,having been reconciled, we SHALL BE SAVED
BY HIS LIFE

And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom
we have now received the reconciliation. Rom 5-11

There is therefore now no CONDEMNATION to those
in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh (ADAM) but according to the Spirit(Christ)

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ
has made me free from the law of sin and death.

Paul
Follower of the Way

Australia

#4 Nov 10, 2008
Now try and speak about your High Priest who ministers now in Heaven and avail the reader of the Everasting Gospel - the full Gospel
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#5 Nov 10, 2008
Follower of the Way wrote:
Now try and speak about your High Priest who ministers now in Heaven and avail the reader of the Everasting Gospel - the full Gospel
It has been finished at the Cross.

These are God's word's and you don't believe them.

So be it !

Paul
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#6 Nov 10, 2008
Bebo Norman-------Amazing Love Lyrics--------

MY LORD,WHAT LOVE IS THIS
THAT PAYS SO DEARLY
THAT I, THE GUILTY ONE
MAY GO FREE

AMAZING LOVE,WHAT SACRIFICE
THE SON OF GOD GIVEN FOR ME
MY DEBT HE PAYS, AND MY DEATH HE DIES
THAT I MIGHT LIVE, THAT I MIGHT LIVE

AND SO THEY WATCHED HIM DIE
DESPISED. REJECTED
BUT OH, THE BLOOD HE SHED
FLOWED FOR ME

AND NOW, THIS LOVE OF CHRIST
SHALL FLOW LIKE RIVERS
SO COME WASH YOU GUILT AWAY
LIVE AGAIN

AMAZING LOVE OH WHAT SACRIFICE
THE SON OF GOD GIVEN FOR ME
THAT I SHOULD LIVE
THAT I SHOULD LIVE

Millions of Christians Sing This Song
with overwhelming Joy !

Then there are those that do not understand.

Paul
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#7 Nov 10, 2008
Follower of the Way wrote:
Now try and speak about your High Priest who ministers now in Heaven and avail the reader of the Everasting Gospel - the full Gospel
Follower,

when you sin while in Adam,
your sin is placed in your account

when you sin while in Christ
your sin is placed on Jesus

Do you believe this?

Paul
Diane

San Diego, CA

#8 Nov 11, 2008
Follower of the Way wrote:
Now try and speak about your High Priest who ministers now in Heaven and avail the reader of the Everasting Gospel - the full Gospel
Follower of the Way, what does this verse mean to you. " And every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; BUT HE having offered one sacrifice for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD." Hebrews 10:11,12. Thanks.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#9 Nov 11, 2008
Diane wrote:
<quoted text> Follower of the Way, what does this verse mean to you. " And every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; BUT HE having offered one sacrifice for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD." Hebrews 10:11,12. Thanks.
Good question Diane :-)
Terrilyn

Australia

#10 Nov 13, 2008
Diane wrote:
<quoted text> Follower of the Way, what does this verse mean to you. " And every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; BUT HE having offered one sacrifice for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD." Hebrews 10:11,12. Thanks.
psalms
110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
heb. 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto [his] brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things [pertaining] to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
Where is this following scripture texts talking about ? On Earth or in Heaven?
4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens,
Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession.
4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
So who among you are unfamilair?
5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
5:6 As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
5:13 For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,[even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to show unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed [it] by an oath:
6:18 That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
6:19 Which [hope] we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered,[even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
So was this Melchisedec by oath to be Jesus The Christ who would be our High Priest, after he accended to heaven?
Terrilyn

Australia

#11 Nov 13, 2008
7:20 And inasmuch as not without an oath [he was made priest]:
7:21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
7:23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
7:24 But this [man], because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
7:26 For such an high priest became us,[who is] holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law,[maketh] the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
He could not be our High Priest while He was on this earth not until He went to Heaven.
8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
8:3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore [it is] of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
read Hebrews 9 all
10:21 And [having] an high priest over the house of God;
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#12 Nov 18, 2008
Paul from California wrote:
We receive from Adam
weakness..........Rom 5-6
ungodliness..........Rom 5-6
sinfulness..........Rom 5-7,8
wrath..........Rom 5-9
Warfare..........Rom 5-10 Matt 12-30
God's standard for us is Perfection
Is there anyone who is perfect, no, not one!
If you break the law, you have broken all
If a traffic cop stops you for speeding,what good
will it be to tell him you kept all the other laws
If you are suspended over molten lava by chain link, how many links have to break before you fall
to your death. One, you break one law, your dead.
Lawlessness is sin..........1 Jn3-4
Doing what we ought not to do is sin.....Jm 2-10
Failing to do what we ought to do is sin Jm 4-17
Unbelief in God, not believing God is sin Rom14-23
Human Goodness is sin..........Prv 21-4
Under Adam God will pour out His wrath
Bible teaches in Adam all die
Bible does not teach.........reincarantion
..........a second chance
..........annihilation
..........universalism,
that everyone will be saved
No one in Adam will be saved from Condemnation
God is a Holy just God
If you die without Christ ( a natural man) you will face His judgement and wrath Rom 5-10
You will go to hell
The unrighteouness we recieve from Adam has to be Judged
If your in Adam, you are an enemy of God
Sin is High Tresason against heavens King
Sin is a clinched fist in the Face of God
If you are not with Christ your against Christ
You cannot be neutral
If you are not 100% for Him
You are 100% against Him
WE RECEIVE ALL THIS FROM ADAM
There is alot more ways to commiting sin then the
Adventist,Lay worker interpretation. Read the middle of this post above.

Paul
post

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#13 Nov 18, 2008
Paul from California wrote:
Bebo Norman-------Amazing Love Lyrics--------
MY LORD,WHAT LOVE IS THIS
THAT PAYS SO DEARLY
THAT I, THE GUILTY ONE
MAY GO FREE
AMAZING LOVE,WHAT SACRIFICE
THE SON OF GOD GIVEN FOR ME
MY DEBT HE PAYS, AND MY DEATH HE DIES
THAT I MIGHT LIVE, THAT I MIGHT LIVE
AND SO THEY WATCHED HIM DIE
DESPISED. REJECTED
BUT OH, THE BLOOD HE SHED
FLOWED FOR ME
AND NOW, THIS LOVE OF CHRIST
SHALL FLOW LIKE RIVERS
SO COME WASH YOU GUILT AWAY
LIVE AGAIN
AMAZING LOVE OH WHAT SACRIFICE
THE SON OF GOD GIVEN FOR ME
THAT I SHOULD LIVE
THAT I SHOULD LIVE
Millions of Christians Sing This Song
with overwhelming Joy !
Then there are those that do not understand.
Paul
Nice song Paul ...

and true : What Amazing Grace.

:-)
Paul from California

San Jose, CA

#14 Nov 21, 2008
Thanks Cinders !

Sure wish I could carry tune though..........

Paul

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#15 Nov 22, 2008
Paul from California wrote:
Thanks Cinders !
Sure wish I could carry tune though..........
Paul
I wish I could carry a tune also Paul ... One day ....

Keep Smiling :-)

Cinders :-)

Since: May 08

Geneve, Switzerland

#16 Nov 24, 2008
I'm always looking for new ways to sin, thanks for the tip, but your list of ways to sin seems a tad boring to me.

“Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog!!”

Since: May 08

Ben Lomond, Tasmania

#17 Nov 24, 2008
Finally!! Two Kingdoms/Two Men: A study of the traji-comedy of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet!! Thanks to "Paul" for bringing a little culture to a barren field of bigots preaching from soap-boxes!! A story of love in a background of two warring opposites - with no crucifixions!!

Script of Act I Romeo and Juliet
The play by William Shakespeare

Introduction

Romeo and Juliet the play by William Shakespeare. The enduring works of William Shakespeare feature many famous and well loved characters. Make a note of any unusual words that you encounter whilst reading the script of Romeo and Juliet and check their definition in the Shakespeare Dictionary.

Script / Text of Act I Romeo and Juliet

ACT I
PROLOGUE
Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows
Do with their death bury their parents' strife.
The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love,
And the continuance of their parents' rage,
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,
Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage;
The which if you with patient ears attend,
What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend.

I think we should all pause for a little reflection before commenting on todays debate, "Romeo and Juliet: Did EGW plagiarise Shakespeare when she modelled the "Great Controversy" after the warring of two great families"???

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#18 Dec 2, 2008
WOW Elizabeth this Seventh Day Adventist forum has gotten out of hand, it is so whacked with believers and non believers who are not even civil with each and keep pushing each others buttons ... I thought I was the one whacked in the head hmmm but now I believe I am totally and completely within the norm range.

Since: May 08

Switzerland

#19 Dec 3, 2008
CINDERS wrote:
WOW Elizabeth this Seventh Day Adventist forum has gotten out of hand, it is so whacked with believers and non believers who are not even civil with each and keep pushing each others buttons ... I thought I was the one whacked in the head hmmm but now I believe I am totally and completely within the norm range.
How did you manage to post this to every thread I vist, come on dearie, whats the secret? You got some wicked technology mojo happening.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#20 Dec 3, 2008
angryexpat wrote:
<quoted text>
How did you manage to post this to every thread I vist, come on dearie, whats the secret? You got some wicked technology mojo happening.
*LOL* Hahahahahaha Sure do mate sure do *LOL*

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