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Psalms 23

Australia

#1 Jun 3, 2012
I would like to invite all of you to read and learn from this website acts321.org .au, what the gospel is and how the Lord Jesus Christ is calling his people out from fallen Babylon.
I pray it is a blessing to you all.
God bless, Psalms 23.

Since: May 08

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#2 Jun 4, 2012
Psalms 23 wrote:
I would like to invite all of you to read and learn from this website acts321.org .au, what the gospel is and how the Lord Jesus Christ is calling his people out from fallen Babylon.
I pray it is a blessing to you all.
God bless, Psalms 23.
Why do we need to learn from that website? They believe that Jesus is not God, they are so close the JW's it is not funny.
Psalms 23

Australia

#3 Jun 4, 2012
CINDERS wrote:
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Why do we need to learn from that website? They believe that Jesus is not God, they are so close the JW's it is not funny.
No way Cinders,
Please reconsider what you are saying.
This is the true gospel the trinity is a false babylonian concept never taught by Bible, early church, Christ and pioneers of sda.
RM - they accept divinity of Christ because its Biblical,
Jesus is the fully divine only begotten Son of God.
There is only one true God the Father and Jesus Christ whom He sent, this is every where in the Bible.
It is Christ himself who declares that the Father is greater than Him.
Jesus had a beginning.
He is the Creator along with the Father, who made all things through Him and for Him.
Satan is a created being as are all angels, as are we.
The JW'S with whom I studied with for several years believe that
Jesus was a truly good man.
They do not believe in his divinity.
The claim is a superficial one based on arian heresy and unitarian beliefs.
Please reconsider and restudy.
God bless I am happy to help you.
Lay Worker

Jerilderie, Australia

#4 Jun 4, 2012
Psalms 23 wrote:
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No way Cinders,
Please reconsider what you are saying.
This is the true gospel the trinity is a false babylonian concept never taught by Bible, early church, Christ and pioneers of sda.
RM - they accept divinity of Christ because its Biblical,
Jesus is the fully divine only begotten Son of God.
There is only one true God the Father and Jesus Christ whom He sent, this is every where in the Bible.
It is Christ himself who declares that the Father is greater than Him.
Jesus had a beginning.
He is the Creator along with the Father, who made all things through Him and for Him.
Satan is a created being as are all angels, as are we.
The JW'S with whom I studied with for several years believe that
Jesus was a truly good man.
They do not believe in his divinity.
The claim is a superficial one based on arian heresy and unitarian beliefs.
Please reconsider and restudy.
God bless I am happy to help you.
Unedifying mishmash
Psalms 23

Australia

#5 Jun 4, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Unedifying mishmash
Mate you need to do much better than that, if you expect to prove your point.
Lay Worker

Jerilderie, Australia

#6 Jun 4, 2012
Psalms 23 wrote:
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This is the true gospel the trinity is a false babylonian concept never taught by Bible, early church, Christ and pioneers of sda.

RM - they accept divinity of Christ because its Biblical,
Jesus is the fully divine only begotten Son of God.

There is only one true God the Father and Jesus Christ whom He sent, this is every where in the Bible.
It is Christ himself who declares that the Father is greater than Him.
Jesus had a beginning.
He is the Creator along with the Father, who made all things through Him and for Him.
Satan is a created being as are all angels, as are we.
The JW'S with whom I studied with for several years believe that
Jesus was a truly good man.
They do not believe in his divinity.
The claim is a superficial one based on arian heresy and unitarian beliefs.
Please reconsider and restudy.
God bless I am happy to help you.
Another shyster selling snake oil to the unwary -
nothing in the above Arian
ramble edifies the eternal Ho Logos

PT23 will be another who confirms Jesus is NOT also God
and is 100% unfamiliar to the Incarnation of the monogenes theos.
Psalms 23

Australia

#7 Jun 4, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Another shyster selling snake oil to the unwary -
nothing in the above Arian
ramble edifies the eternal Ho Logos
PT23 will be another who confirms Jesus is NOT also God
and is 100% unfamiliar to the Incarnation of the monogenes theos.
Lay works,
Are you familiar with the teachings and doctrines of historical adventism?
I dont think you are.If you aren't then I think you may need some revision lessons.
I would object your name calling, you are talking to a fellow believer and redeemed of the Lord.
It comes from a position of weakness and is truly unbecoming of a man of God to present himself as such, towards other believers,

Now what does;
only begotten, unique and divine
translate in Greek please.

What do you understand this to mean.
" My Father is greater than I."
"This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
"This is My beloved Son, Hear Him."

I would like your factual answers please.
Lay Worker

Jerilderie, Australia

#8 Jun 4, 2012
Psalms 23 wrote:
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Lay works,
Are you familiar with the teachings and doctrines of historical adventism?
I dont think you are.If you aren't then I think you may need some revision lessons.
I would object your name calling, you are talking to a fellow believer and redeemed of the Lord.
It comes from a position of weakness and is truly unbecoming of a man of God to present himself as such, towards other believers,
Now what does;
only begotten, unique and divine
translate in Greek please.
What do you understand this to mean.
" My Father is greater than I."
"This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
"This is My beloved Son, Hear Him."
I would like your factual answers please.
If thou were familiar with the decree to be a Son - then thou wouldst know what the condescension actually plumbed in the salvation of men.

Open thine Bible for a change and advise the readers
WHO WAS HE and what was He known as prior to Bethlehem, en arche?

What sayest the Scriptures?
The Spirit of God

San Antonio, TX

#9 Jun 4, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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If thou were familiar with the decree to be a Son - then thou wouldst know what the condescension actually plumbed in the salvation of men.
Open thine Bible for a change and advise the readers
WHO WAS HE and what was He known as prior to Bethlehem, en arche?
What sayest the Scriptures?
Why do you encourage and entice this woman to disobey the commandments of God?

1 Corinthians, Chapter 14
33:For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34:Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35:And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1 Timothy, Chapter 2,
11: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Lay Worker

Jerilderie, Australia

#10 Jun 4, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
If thou were familiar with the decree to be a Son - then thou wouldst know what the condescension actually plumbed in the salvation of men.
Open thine Bible for a change and advise the readers
WHO WAS HE and what was He known as prior to Bethlehem, en arche?
What sayest the Scriptures?
Unanswered
The Spirit of God

San Antonio, TX

#11 Jun 4, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Unanswered
There is now a witness that you Willfully and Willingly and Knowingly
encouraging the women to post on this forum and to teach and to debate and to argue with men...strange men at that.

You do not like the commandments of God...you do not believe they mean what they mean...

TAKE IT UP WITH GOD.

I SEE YOU DISOBEY THIS ON HERE I AM GOING TO TELL THE LORD ABOUT IT.

You think God is going to dismiss this as if you did not disobey him...

well...go for it.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12 Jun 4, 2012
Spirit,

God could and would use anybody to teach His word. Who are you to judge? Psalms23 is not in church, she is using this forum as anyone can. There is nothing in the Bible that says a women cannot use the internet or forum to say what she believes.

You are distorting what God taught and show the basis of your sin but calling yourself the Spirit of God. You blaspheme the Holy Spirit and are in danger of committing the unpardonable sin.
The Spirit of God

San Antonio, TX

#13 Jun 4, 2012
CamelUser wrote:
Spirit,
God could and would use anybody to teach His word. Who are you to judge? Psalms23 is not in church, she is using this forum as anyone can. There is nothing in the Bible that says a women cannot use the internet or forum to say what she believes.
You are distorting what God taught and show the basis of your sin but calling yourself the Spirit of God. You blaspheme the Holy Spirit and are in danger of committing the unpardonable sin.
First off...You have no Earthly or Heavenly clue to WHO I AM.

As the Lord is my witness...I am the Lord's anointed.

NOW YOU KNOW

I TOLD YOU.

Be careful.
Psalms 23

Australia

#14 Jun 4, 2012
CamelUser wrote:
Spirit,
God could and would use anybody to teach His word. Who are you to judge? Psalms23 is not in church, she is using this forum as anyone can. There is nothing in the Bible that says a women cannot use the internet or forum to say what she believes.
You are distorting what God taught and show the basis of your sin but calling yourself the Spirit of God. You blaspheme the Holy Spirit and are in danger of committing the unpardonable sin.
Thank you and the Lord will also reveal in time who this person really is and the spirit of antichrist that he is promoting.
I told you before, If you were my husband you would have your way and it would be your responsibility to teach me and others abiut Jesus and the gospel as most godly men so.

So because your words are full of self exaltation and blasphemy. you show to all what manner of spirit of ungodliness you have, and yes I am sorry because I let my sense of humour get the better of me but I do still love you with all holiness and purity.

God strove with me for years even after becoming an adventist I have only now really been born again for I had great difficulty forgiving others and lovong my enemies.

There is much light I can share with fellow believers and even the stones will cry out if you refuse to allow me to spread the gospel,
God will hold you to account for that.

I know who you really are, you starter spamming this forums after we disagreed on doctrine and I declined your invitation to discuss things privately.

Your all from texas.

The truth will come out soon.

Praise God for that.
Psalms 23

Australia

#15 Jun 4, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Unanswered
Jesus was the Word Of God and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
He was always divine, possessing divinity and thought it was not robbery to be equal with the father, just as you possess humanity from your father and are as much a human being as he is.
He was by the Fathers side and daily his delight was to be ever before Him.
He was the Captain of the Lords Host and Michael the Archangel.
He was the only begotten Son of God, even before His incarnation as Son of Man.
He was the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sin of the World.
He was the mediator between God and Man and appeared to Moses and the earlier patriarchs such as Jacob when he werestled with him.
He was never a trinity.
A three headed one in three persons God.
He was always the Son of God.
Thats what makes manifest His Fathers love for us.
In that when we were His enemies, He sent Jesus to die for us.
Proverbs 8 all of it especially v22.
God bless.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#16 Jun 4, 2012
Psalms 23,

There are three persons of the Godhead. The fact that they are one in purpose and thought with distinct attributes of each. Christ said if we have seen Him we have seen the Father. Christ took on the form of man but the Father did not. He is Spirit. The Bible does not describe the Father except through Jesus Christ.

I believe everything you have stated above in your posting.

Question? Is Spirit of God the new leader of the Sheperd's Rod or Davidians? He sounds an awful like David Koresh when he was alive. And he is from Texas. Hmmmmmmmmm???
Psalms 23

Australia

#17 Jun 4, 2012
CamelUser wrote:
Psalms 23,
There are three persons of the Godhead. The fact that they are one in purpose and thought with distinct attributes of each. Christ said if we have seen Him we have seen the Father. Christ took on the form of man but the Father did not. He is Spirit. The Bible does not describe the Father except through Jesus Christ.
I believe everything you have stated above in your posting.
Question? Is Spirit of God the new leader of the Sheperd's Rod or Davidians? He sounds an awful like David Koresh when he was alive. And he is from Texas. Hmmmmmmmmm???
Brother or sister you have a kind and understanding form of communicating with people,
Even if you are not sda you are definitely of the Lord's sheep.
But if you agree with me and the words of the Bible how can you hold to the trinity teaching?
Did you go to acts321.org .au they have excellent teachings there that support the non trinitarian truth?
I am not sure who this person is who says that he is spirit of God, he may be shubee, he sounds like shubee and I think he actually is shubee.
I am sure sooner than later you will get a hello message from him chastising you from talking with me.
I know he upset me so much as did Dan and Shubee who overacted to me communicating with Birdie, that I was in tears.
I am still trying to figure out the motive and the more it points back to Shubee, because I only went and read his website and did not join it, all is that I am guarded person and he became offended at me and this spirit was prying so I just admitted to being a woman.
I dont know much about Koresh at all except he was a fanatical and people lived around him and followed him and he may or may not have been an immoral person who practiced polygamy and peadophilia amongst his camp of followers.
Like I said it is a shame if it is Shubee that he is acting this way because Shubee is a genius with an ego problem.
I would have liked to debate more with him on this subject as we agreed on may other points.
However I am not going to be an enemy to birdman as he has is a brother in my faith, my loyalties are to Christ and he said blessed are the peacemakers.
Lay Worker

Jerilderie, Australia

#18 Jun 5, 2012
Psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>

Jesus was the Word Of God and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
He was always divine, possessing divinity and thought it was not robbery to be equal with the father, just as you possess humanity from your father and are as much a human being as he is.

He was by the Fathers side and daily his delight was to be ever before Him.
He was the Captain of the Lords Host and Michael the Archangel.
He was the only begotten Son of God, even before His incarnation as Son of Man.
He was the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sin of the World.
He was the mediator between God and Man and appeared to Moses and the earlier patriarchs such as Jacob when he werestled with him.

In that when we were His enemies, He sent Jesus to die for us.
Proverbs 8 all of it especially v22.
The readers note -

1/ The Word was not known as Jesus prior to Bethlehem;
2/ nor was He known as the Son prior to Bethlehem.[Lk 1:35]

3/ The readers also know that Prov 8:22-25 [yes all of it] does not change who He was en arche.

"Wisdom is not God, but is God's; she has personal existence in the Logos of the N.T., but is not herself the Logos; she is the world-idea, which, once projected, is objective to God, not as a dead form, but as a living spiritual image; she is the archetype of the world, which, originating from God, stands before God, the world of the idea which forms the medium between the Godhead and the world of actual existence, the communicated spiritual power in the origination and the completion of the world as God designed it to be. This wisdom the poet here personifies; he does not speak of the person as Logos, but the further progress of the revelation points to her actual personification in the Logos. And (2) since to her the poet attributes an existence preceding the creation of the world, he thereby declares her to be eternal, for to be before the world is to be before time."

http://kad.biblecommenter.com/proverbs/8.htm
Psalms 23

Australia

#19 Jun 5, 2012
Hi Layworks,
I dont think you are correct about the sonship of christ before bethlehem.
Jesus has always been only begotten Son of God.
Jesus is fully divine of same substance as Father being divinity, I told this to you before, he is called mighty God, counsellor and prince of peace in his revelations.
You are defending the trinity which is a babylon mystery when you attribute the qualities of the male God, Jehovah to a female Spirit.
The holy spirit in catholicism is also female, seen as the mediatrix between us and God, we know this is antichrist teaching.
Can you look at John and 1st John and explain how the trinity holds up in its verses explaining sonship of Christ please?
Nowhere in scripture does it say the Holy Spirit of God is a female. You have taken the literal creation acts of Jesus Christ and made them poetic words.
Are you literally human or poetry?
Jesus will always be Jesus, his human form and the scars on his hands he bears for eternity.
What love he has for us.

Since: May 08

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#20 Jun 5, 2012
Psalms 23 wrote:
Hi Layworks,
I dont think you are correct about the sonship of christ before bethlehem.
Jesus has always been only begotten Son of God.
Jesus is fully divine of same substance as Father being divinity, I told this to you before, he is called mighty God, counsellor and prince of peace in his revelations.
You are defending the trinity which is a babylon mystery when you attribute the qualities of the male God, Jehovah to a female Spirit.
The holy spirit in catholicism is also female, seen as the mediatrix between us and God, we know this is antichrist teaching.
Can you look at John and 1st John and explain how the trinity holds up in its verses explaining sonship of Christ please?
Nowhere in scripture does it say the Holy Spirit of God is a female. You have taken the literal creation acts of Jesus Christ and made them poetic words.
Are you literally human or poetry?
Jesus will always be Jesus, his human form and the scars on his hands he bears for eternity.
What love he has for us.
Why do you believe that Jesus is the "literal" son of God? You are saying that Jesus is a lower type of God. Jesus says "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." He is the "I AM" He has been along side the Father since eternity, there never was a time that He was not.

Also what position did Lucifer hold in heaven before he rebelled?

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