They left Paul.
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Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#1 Oct 23, 2012
Why did Timothy, Mark, Barnabas and ALL of the church in Ephesus LEAVE Paul and go another direction?
DANNO

London, UK

#2 Oct 23, 2012
Dennis wrote:
Why did Timothy, Mark, Barnabas and ALL of the church in Ephesus LEAVE Paul and go another direction?
Dennis

You forgot to give the Bible quotes. Don't forget that lurkers and future members will be reading your post.

My answer to your question are these:

1. They left him because he contradicted himself. Gal 5: 2-4 & Acts 16; 3 for destroying Timothy spiritualy.

2. For his actions and beliefs in ACTS 21: 26

3.For his words against Women . 1st Tim 2: 12-13 & 1st Cor 14: 34

4. For lying against Moses and LEV 11 and lying against GOD. 1st Tim 4: 4-5 & 1st Cor 10: 25 and contracdicting himself in 2nd Cor 6: 17

5. for not being sure he had the HOLY Spirit. 1st Cor 7: 40

6. For being CURSED and TORMENTED in 2nd Cor 12: 7

7. For trying to be GOD in 1st Cor 5: 5 & 1st Tim 1: 20

8. For spking against God's LAW and saying God's LAW was CURSED and his LAW was NOT PERFECT! Gal 3: 10-11 & ROM 10: 4 & ROM 3: 20 , 28 & HEB 8: 10

9. For his attacks on PETER [GAL chapter 2] who was blessed by Jesus and recieved the HOLY Spirit direct from JESUS and made Peter head of his Church. John 20: 22

10. They discovered he was NOT the 12th Apostle that replaced Judas. Matthias was the 12th Apostle that replaced Judas and fullfilled OT scripture. ACTS 1: 20-26 & Psalms 109: 8 & Psalms 69: 25

These are my top 10 reasons why they dumped Paul!

Blessings

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#3 Oct 23, 2012
Correction:

8. For spking against God's LAW and saying God's LAW was CURSED and his LAW was NOT PERFECT! Gal 3: 10-11 & ROM 10: 4 & ROM 3: 20 , 28 & HEB 8: 13
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#4 Oct 23, 2012
Philip went and preached in Africa. He must have been a false apostle as well.

CB
DANNO

London, UK

#5 Oct 24, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
Philip went and preached in Africa. He must have been a false apostle as well.
CB
Crazy Idiot.

I did tell you many times to see a VET to have your brains to back to their original location! Why are you so happy for your brains to remain up your smelly backside?? WHY?

We do not REJECT the Apostle Philip!! His name is listed in MATT 10: 2-4!! but NOT Barnabas, Luke , Paul or Mark!!

Theres only 12 places in REV 21: 14 & MATT 19: 28 NOT 13 or 14 or 15!! Ge=t that in your brains!

Dan
Richinchrist

Columbia, SC

#6 Oct 24, 2012
I wouldnt reject any apostles

Here is the reason for the great controversy over Paul.
Paul clearly lays out the pope as antichrist.
They dont like that
they have always hated Paul and always will.

Well, Paul was an apostle, which means called of God
personally
by name
he was even given his new name like peter was.
Paul actually corrected PEter.
If you Reject Paul you reject Jeesus.
Paul was an apostle to the gentiles
you are gentile
he is the apostle sent to you
you can accept or reject Jesus.
I would advise accepting Paul the apostle and Jesus both
Amen.
He that hath an ear let him hear what the spirit says to the churches.
DANNO

London, UK

#7 Oct 24, 2012
Richinchrist wrote:
I wouldnt reject any apostles
Here is the reason for the great controversy over Paul.
Paul clearly lays out the pope as antichrist.
They dont like that
they have always hated Paul and always will.
Well, Paul was an apostle, which means called of God
personally
by name
he was even given his new name like peter was.
Paul actually corrected PEter.
If you Reject Paul you reject Jeesus.
Paul was an apostle to the gentiles
you are gentile
he is the apostle sent to you
you can accept or reject Jesus.
I would advise accepting Paul the apostle and Jesus both
Amen.
He that hath an ear let him hear what the spirit says to the churches.
YES I REJECT the jesus of PAUL! and the jesus that spoke to him and blinded him!

Dan

Since: Sep 12

Philippines

#8 Oct 24, 2012
Why hasn't anyone refuted the 12 seats for the apostles in revelation? Where does paul sit?
DANNO

London, UK

#9 Oct 24, 2012
dandate2 wrote:
Why hasn't anyone refuted the 12 seats for the apostles in revelation? Where does paul sit?
i asked that same questions several times and also openned a thread on it but they refuse to discuse it!!

REV 21: 14 & MATT 19: 28 is too hot for them!
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#10 Oct 25, 2012
2John 7-12 shows us why most left paul and his teaching; because he did not teach what Jesus said to teach. Paul's gospel was all about being saved by grace without keeping the commandments and the words of Jesus. Paul taught one was righteous only by faith which he could not prove even though he twisted the words in the OT in a lame attempt to do so.

Paul taught justification by faith alone and not sanctification by becoming perfect even as the Father in Heaven is perfect.

When one tests the words of Paul against the words of Jesus given to us by Matthew and John, it becomes extreemly clear that Paul's gospel is false and that is why those who actually were with Jesus and heard what Jesus said, KNEW that Paul was a fasle apostle and a "spouting liar" as found in the writings of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#11 Oct 25, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
2John 7-12 shows us why most left paul and his teaching; because he did not teach what Jesus said to teach. Paul's gospel was all about being saved by grace without keeping the commandments and the words of Jesus. Paul taught one was righteous only by faith which he could not prove even though he twisted the words in the OT in a lame attempt to do so.
Paul taught justification by faith alone and not sanctification by becoming perfect even as the Father in Heaven is perfect.
When one tests the words of Paul against the words of Jesus given to us by Matthew and John, it becomes extreemly clear that Paul's gospel is false and that is why those who actually were with Jesus and heard what Jesus said, KNEW that Paul was a fasle apostle and a "spouting liar" as found in the writings of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
GARBAGE here.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#12 Oct 25, 2012
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
GARBAGE here.
Thanks birdman, that proves what I wrote was right on point and correct, as everything you say is garbage is actually correct.

We all know that you can't tell us the truth about anything, so that means that you could not tell us the real reason why Mark, Barnabus and all of those in Ephesus (Asia) gave Paul's gospel up for the real truth taught by eyewitness disciples.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#13 Oct 25, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
Philip went and preached in Africa. He must have been a false apostle as well.
CB
YES, and that is why those in Africa NEVER hard about the false gospel preached by Paul! Thanks for pointing this out!

There is a video on youtube from a preacher in Africa who also came to this conclusion; that Paul's false gospel never reached Africa and when it did, they rejected Paul's gospel just as those in Asia rejected Paul's false teachings.
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#14 Oct 25, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks birdman, that proves what I wrote was right on point and correct, as everything you say is garbage is actually correct.
We all know that you can't tell us the truth about anything, so that means that you could not tell us the real reason why Mark, Barnabus and all of those in Ephesus (Asia) gave Paul's gospel up for the real truth taught by eyewitness disciples.
YOU are a LIAR when it comes to the BIBLE!!!!!
DANNO

London, UK

#15 Oct 25, 2012
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU are a LIAR when it comes to the BIBLE!!!!!
Bird

What is the GOOD SEEDS the FARMER SOWED in the field in MATT 13: 24-43? What does the "GOOD SEED" & the "FIELD" represent?? Do you know? plz tell the readers if you know?

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#16 Oct 25, 2012
Richinchrist wrote:
I wouldnt reject any apostles
Here is the reason for the great controversy over Paul.
Paul clearly lays out the pope as antichrist.
They dont like that
they have always hated Paul and always will.
Well, Paul was an apostle, which means called of God
personally
by name
he was even given his new name like peter was.
Paul actually corrected PEter.
If you Reject Paul you reject Jeesus.
Paul was an apostle to the gentiles
you are gentile
he is the apostle sent to you
you can accept or reject Jesus.
I would advise accepting Paul the apostle and Jesus both
Amen.
He that hath an ear let him hear what the spirit says to the churches.
Rich

What is the GOOD SEEDS the FARMER SOWED in the field in MATT 13: 24-43? What does the "GOOD SEED" & the "FIELD" represent?? Do you know? plz tell the readers if you know?

Dan
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#17 Oct 25, 2012
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU are a LIAR when it comes to the BIBLE!!!!!
I am glad you think so, because it proves that what I write is truth. You are treating me just as those Pharasees treated Jesus. What good did that do to them? You can't prove a darn thing and never have on these posts! But then we all know that already.
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#18 Oct 25, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> I am glad you think so, because it proves that what I write is truth. You are treating me just as those Pharasees treated Jesus. What good did that do to them? You can't prove a darn thing and never have on these posts! But then we all know that already.
LIES; everyone on here know that you REJECT the BIBLE.
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#19 Oct 25, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> I am glad you think so, because it proves that what I write is truth. You are treating me just as those Pharasees treated Jesus. What good did that do to them? You can't prove a darn thing and never have on these posts! But then we all know that already.
 (34)“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. (35) For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. (36) And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. (37) Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt. 10:34-37.
Whoever loves ANYONE more than they love Jesus and His words and teachings are not worthy to be called a bondservant of Jesus. "ANYONE" also includes Paul, Luke, James, EGW and others that make the 'claim' that they are of God but have demonstrated by their words that they do not love the words of God as given by Jesus MORE and BEFORE their own words. This also includes those that believe in these OTHER words more that the words of God as expressed in Jesus Christ.
So, for those of you that still maintain that Paul speaks for God I challenge you to show your metal and prove it by placing what you believe up against what Jesus said to His own eyewitness disciples and see what you get. If you are not willing to do this then you truly love the words of someone else more that you love the words of Jesus, and you are not worthy of Him.
DANNO

London, UK

#20 Oct 25, 2012
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
LIES; everyone on here know that you REJECT the BIBLE.
Birdie.

plz tell us/readers the truth.
What is the GOOD SEEDS the FARMER SOWED in the field in MATT 13: 24-43? What does the "GOOD SEED" & the "FIELD" represent?? Do you know? plz tell the readers if you know?

The readers may want to know the truth on the matter from you. plz tell them and be a good witness for your GOD. MATT 10: 32-33

Dan

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