SDA: Sea Beast
base

Provo, UT

#1 Jan 29, 2012
SDA often focus on this Sea Beast of Rev 13. But who is the Sea Beast?

SDA claim the Sea Beast is the "papacy". But is it?

This is important since SDA claim Sea Beast is either still here today or will come again at some point.

Is Sea Beast Papacy?

What exactly took the "deadly wound"?

What is the papacy?

(we could use official sources but for ease of reference I'm using Wikipedia)

Wikipedia says: The office of the pope is known as the papacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope

The 1260 day/year prophecy ended in 1798 when Napoleon had the Pope arrested.

The Pope has since been returned to Papacy. Sea Beast?

Also ended in 1798 Napoleon seized the Papal States.

Wikipedia says: Disestablishment: February 15, 1798 when the Papal States as a whole were invaded by French forces, who declared a Roman Republic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_states

These Papal States were established in the 6th century (538) also at the link.

This is key to the Sea Beast as this Papal States are no more. The Papal States or holy roman empire was a persecuting power which forced Roman Catholicism on everyone in the empire under pain of death. We do not find this today.

The papacy is still here, the Papal States are gone.

We are told Sea Beast ruled for 1260 years. Then who is the Sea Beast?

The Papal States.

The Pope and Church will be there until the Second Coming according to Daniel 2--the Roman Empire continues until the end.

This is where the Earth Beast comes in: Since the Papal States were abolished the Earth Beast has been ruling the empire for the Papacy.

Now, the question is: will the Sea Beast ever come back?

No! The Papal States were abolished.

Prophetically: the Earth Beast took over the empire or in Rev 17 the 8th head took over from the 7th head.

Since: Jun 10

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#2 Jan 29, 2012
base wrote:
SDA often focus on this Sea Beast of Rev 13. But who is the Sea Beast?
SDA claim the Sea Beast is the "papacy". But is it?
This is important since SDA claim Sea Beast is either still here today or will come again at some point.
Is Sea Beast Papacy?
What exactly took the "deadly wound"?
What is the papacy?
(we could use official sources but for ease of reference I'm using Wikipedia)
Wikipedia says: The office of the pope is known as the papacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope
The 1260 day/year prophecy ended in 1798 when Napoleon had the Pope arrested.
The Pope has since been returned to Papacy. Sea Beast?
Also ended in 1798 Napoleon seized the Papal States.
Wikipedia says: Disestablishment: February 15, 1798 when the Papal States as a whole were invaded by French forces, who declared a Roman Republic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_states
These Papal States were established in the 6th century (538) also at the link.
This is key to the Sea Beast as this Papal States are no more. The Papal States or holy roman empire was a persecuting power which forced Roman Catholicism on everyone in the empire under pain of death. We do not find this today.
The papacy is still here, the Papal States are gone.
We are told Sea Beast ruled for 1260 years. Then who is the Sea Beast?
The Papal States.
The Pope and Church will be there until the Second Coming according to Daniel 2--the Roman Empire continues until the end.
This is where the Earth Beast comes in: Since the Papal States were abolished the Earth Beast has been ruling the empire for the Papacy.
Now, the question is: will the Sea Beast ever come back?
No! The Papal States were abolished.
Prophetically: the Earth Beast took over the empire or in Rev 17 the 8th head took over from the 7th head.
After in-depth and meticulous study, I've reached the conclusion that the sea beast is Ellen White in disguise.
base

Provo, UT

#3 Jan 30, 2012
theCircle wrote:
After in-depth and meticulous study, I've reached the conclusion that the sea beast is Ellen White in disguise.


Nothing constructive, man. I could easily pop in numerous threads and call Ellen a daughter of Rome, and there may be a place for that. It is better to build God's kingdom by spreading the true Gospel, if you have this. That is what wins hearts & minds, not slanders.

When Romes is exposed this is done biblically as the harlot, not by slanders to cause one billion followers to defend her. Some actually care about the truth when they hear it.

Save the kids jabber for the school yard.
base
#4 Jan 30, 2012


No takers on who this sea beast is. I suppose we all learn something. All things made known once the censorship is gone.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#5 Jan 30, 2012
base wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing constructive, man. I could easily pop in numerous threads and call Ellen a daughter of Rome, and there may be a place for that. It is better to build God's kingdom by spreading the true Gospel, if you have this. That is what wins hearts & minds, not slanders.
When Romes is exposed this is done biblically as the harlot, not by slanders to cause one billion followers to defend her. Some actually care about the truth when they hear it.
Save the kids jabber for the school yard.
Sorry, I meant to say that the Earth Beast was Ellen White in disguise. I'm really sorry if I'd given you the wrong impression before.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#6 Jan 31, 2012
base wrote:
No takers on who this sea beast is. I suppose we all learn something. All things made known once the censorship is gone.
Ignorance from the JWs is all you quote
His4everFriend

Las Vegas, NV

#7 Jan 31, 2012
base wrote:
SDA often focus on this Sea Beast of Rev 13. But who is the Sea Beast?
SDA claim the Sea Beast is the "papacy". But is it?
This is important since SDA claim Sea Beast is either still here today or will come again at some point.
Is Sea Beast Papacy?
What exactly took the "deadly wound"?
What is the papacy?
(we could use official sources but for ease of reference I'm using Wikipedia)
Wikipedia says: The office of the pope is known as the papacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope
The 1260 day/year prophecy ended in 1798 when Napoleon had the Pope arrested.
The Pope has since been returned to Papacy. Sea Beast?
Also ended in 1798 Napoleon seized the Papal States.
Wikipedia says: Disestablishment: February 15, 1798 when the Papal States as a whole were invaded by French forces, who declared a Roman Republic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_states
These Papal States were established in the 6th century (538) also at the link.
This is key to the Sea Beast as this Papal States are no more. The Papal States or holy roman empire was a persecuting power which forced Roman Catholicism on everyone in the empire under pain of death. We do not find this today.
The papacy is still here, the Papal States are gone.
We are told Sea Beast ruled for 1260 years. Then who is the Sea Beast?
The Papal States.
The Pope and Church will be there until the Second Coming according to Daniel 2--the Roman Empire continues until the end.
This is where the Earth Beast comes in: Since the Papal States were abolished the Earth Beast has been ruling the empire for the Papacy.
Now, the question is: will the Sea Beast ever come back?
No! The Papal States were abolished.
Prophetically: the Earth Beast took over the empire or in Rev 17 the 8th head took over from the 7th head.
Dear base:

Welcome to topix. After being in the church now for 30 years I have to admit here is one thing that SDA's have been guilty of. As scholars of the Bible wanting to know how things will end that there was a day that we focused a lot on the beast of Rev. 13. And sadly people sometimes left meetings thinking more about the identity of the beast than about Jesus the Christ. I was in my twenties when I accepted Christ and I was very interesting in knowing how it would all end and so I spent a lot of time studying all about the end of the earth. I guess that shouldn't be too surprising to come out of complete darkness and realize that the scriptures teach about the future.

And while it is true that we still preach about that topic I have also seen that God has been re-directing our eyes to see Jesus only. I have seen that God has been working to redirect our thought's and minds toward Him liker never before. Jesus said that I be lifted up I will draw all unto myself.

I hope to get back here and chat some more

His4everFriend

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