A Baptist discovers an ALF teaching, ...
Earthcaller

United States

#21 Oct 1, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
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No eye has seen nor ear has heard......
Don't try to tell us what is going on in Heaven. You no more KNOW that now than your leaders did when they said it.
You throw those numbers around as if they were fact.
Like the RR and the Dennis and the Dan in their false teachings against Paul you now are being given the opportunity to present tangible evidence to the court of your brethren.
What have you got to show us?
CB
Include yourself with those mentioned up above. You have to leave the Trinity, the immortal soul doctrine, as well as Sunday observance and you need to stop eating pork. Also, stop teaching the false secret rapture non-sense and come out of Babylon just as you have been instructed by Jesus.
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#22 Oct 1, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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Include yourself with those mentioned up above. You have to leave the Trinity, the immortal soul doctrine, as well as Sunday observance and you need to stop eating pork. Also, stop teaching the false secret rapture non-sense and come out of Babylon just as you have been instructed by Jesus.
I like you EC so I deleted my previous post and will only ask?

Was my request unclear?

Is the above "your proof" for us to examine?

God has work for you to do and you know it.

Blessings, CB
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#23 Oct 1, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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Include yourself with those mentioned up above. You have to leave the Trinity, the immortal soul doctrine, as well as Sunday observance and you need to stop eating pork. Also, stop teaching the false secret rapture non-sense and come out of Babylon just as you have been instructed by Jesus.
Excellent counsel all in keeping with MATT 25 and Rev 14
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#24 Oct 1, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Incorrect.... again.
The City is under control of one piece of legislation.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Foreign%20Relations...
There is no reference in the entire chapter of Rev 11 that speaks about Lk 21:24. Thats the usual Evangelical dispensationalist interpretation which is unhelpful.
the ruse by The sagging Circle is typical of another know nothing.
thanks for trying but no cigar
Stupid, as usual.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#25 Oct 1, 2012
birdman wrote:
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ALF"s interpretation is FALSE as usual.
Well said.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#26 Oct 1, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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Well! why did the mainline present the fulfillment of Luke 21:24 in the 1980 Sabbath School Quarterlies by way of Professor Jean R.Zurcher?
http://www.adventistalert.com/hour-end/hour.e...
The SDA denomination is NOT the Church, period. They follow after a false prophet.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#27 Oct 1, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Oh how the Crzy B has selective hearing and selective reading.
Jesus ALONE said the KAIROS - the probationary times of the NATIONS were inextribcably tied up with the city of Jerusalem.
that time is past
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...
No it has not. Jerusalem is STILL being trampled by the Gentiles.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#28 Oct 1, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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Include yourself with those mentioned up above. You have to leave the Trinity, the immortal soul doctrine, as well as Sunday observance and you need to stop eating pork. Also, stop teaching the false secret rapture non-sense and come out of Babylon just as you have been instructed by Jesus.
And the ALF is Babylon.
KoalaGums

Ryde, Australia

#29 Oct 1, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
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The SDA denomination is NOT the Church, period. They follow after a false prophet.
I concur. But it took awhile to work that one out.
ROBERT TWO

Darwin, Australia

#30 Oct 1, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
http://www.blessedquietness.co m/JOURNAL/resource/mornstar.ht m
Scroll to the bottom and read what is highlighted in blue see what he uncovered about Luke 21:24. He even pinpoints the exact date 1980.
KING JAMES or nothing.
Mind there are 2 verses that do not have GREEK to go on.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#31 Oct 2, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
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I imagine that that same writer of that article would address you as a cult member not even adding you to the 95% he calls lost.
Never even entertaining the idea that you believe yourself to be a Christian or the possibility that you may be.
Wonder why?
CB
how true!!!!!
birdman

Arthur, IL

#32 Oct 2, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
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And the ALF is Babylon.
Come out of her My people"

So true.
Earthcaller

United States

#33 Oct 6, 2012
birdman wrote:
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Come out of her My people"
So true.
What about 1844? Are you saying that your church is a cult? You don't believe Daniel 8:14 so what are you doing in there?
Earthcaller

United States

#34 Oct 6, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
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I like you EC so I deleted my previous post and will only ask?
Was my request unclear?
Is the above "your proof" for us to examine?
God has work for you to do and you know it.
Blessings, CB
I actually spoke with this individual but he was a fanatic and he didn't want to face the heat regarding other issues. He was right about Luke 21:24 but wrong about everything else. In answer to your question I would say No! the proof finds itself in the fulfillment of that final Fall Festival known as the Day of Atonement. The worse enemies of SDA theology still have to confront that issue.
When properly understood, the wise student will through the power of the Holy Spirit link Luke 21:24 with the anti-typical Day of Atonement. Since Jesus fulfilled the first 4 spring festivals he would also have to fulfill the last 3 fall festivals and From what I have seen, the once faithful Adventist mainline was the closest to the truth followed by the Messianic Jews. The reason that I mention the Messianics is on account of the fact that they respect the festivals and by this I am not advocating that we have to celebrate them, what I am saying is that they clearly reveal different facets of the Everlasting Gospel and the Day of Atonement marks the final end to the problem of sin as revealed in the ancient Sanctuary service. I once recall watching evangelical Pastor John Hagee trying to expound on the Sanctuary as a structure or system that embodied the truth but Hagee didn't know enough regarding the theological architecture and he could not properly define the Way the Truth and the Life within that structure. My question to you is the following, can you tell me why he couldn't do it? If you are humble enough to say you don't know I will then tell you the reason.
EC and others now have the correct understanding which has far surpassed what the SDAs originally taught. Whoever has the proper architecture for the fulfillment of that final feast that will be the person or group of persons which will stand in the end.
Earthcaller

United States

#35 Oct 6, 2012
EC

The Day of Atonement marks the final end and solution to the problem of sin as revealed in the ancient Sanctuary service.

Conclusion

Isn't the end of the sin problem a fundamental part of the good news of the Everlasting Gospel?
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#36 Oct 6, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
EC
The Day of Atonement marks the final end and solution to the problem of sin as revealed in the ancient Sanctuary service.
Conclusion
Isn't the end of the sin problem a fundamental part of the good news of the Everlasting Gospel?
Pharisee.
Earthcaller

United States

#37 Oct 6, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
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Pharisee.
So who is the one who removes sin at the end of time by the sacrifice of himself as stated in Hebrews 9:26? Is it you or your High Priest? As everyone can clearly see you have no knowledge of the Gospel and are destitute of the righteousness of your High Priest. See Hebrews 7:25.

Conclusion 1

Yes! he does make an Atonement=(High Priestly ministration) at the end of time and cleanses and saves his people to the uttermost in the Final Atonement.

Conclusion 2

Better Stuff is self-righteous
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#38 Oct 6, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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So who is the one who removes sin at the end of time by the sacrifice of himself as stated in Hebrews 9:26? Is it you or your High Priest? As everyone can clearly see you have no knowledge of the Gospel and are destitute of the righteousness of your High Priest. See Hebrews 7:25.
Conclusion 1
Yes! he does make an Atonement=(High Priestly ministration) at the end of time and cleanses and saves his people to the uttermost in the Final Atonement.
Conclusion 2
Better Stuff is self-righteous
Unanswerable
Earthcaller

United States

#39 Oct 6, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
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And the ALF is Babylon.
The emanation-ism of Circle, Stuff, Better Stuff is the secret doctrine of the occult, here again we see another manifestation of the Trinity. The circle represents consciousness and the next emanation is spirit and finally spirit enveloped in matter. Better stuff accuses ALF of teaching Babylonian doctrine but here we see that the devil planted a gnostic concept deep within the mind of Better stuff which clearly reveals that a mind that is not guided by the Spirit of God falls prey to another spirit.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#40 Oct 6, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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So who is the one who removes sin at the end of time by the sacrifice of himself as stated in Hebrews 9:26? Is it you or your High Priest? As everyone can clearly see you have no knowledge of the Gospel and are destitute of the righteousness of your High Priest. See Hebrews 7:25.
Conclusion 1
Yes! he does make an Atonement=(High Priestly ministration) at the end of time and cleanses and saves his people to the uttermost in the Final Atonement.
Conclusion 2
Better Stuff is righteous
Thank you, EC, for that scholarly and intelligent conlusion. You are a man after my own heart.

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